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    Although I like the crowds Cajun yell after the announcer says "FIRST DOWN"---I think we need a little pep piece---Like if the band would play the Hustle up and Bustle up and fight on to victory part of the ending of the fight song

    And the whole stadium follows with GEAUX UL!!!!!! Besides the obvious emotional affect on the team and fans it reinforces the UL to all!!!!!! Now can some band dude make this happen?????


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    I second Boomer's idea!


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    This is a great idea. I love it! Geaux UL!


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    Sorry, but the football stadium setup with the band is not like a pep band at the ready. There's no chance of having the band prepared during the entire offensive drive to play something after each first down. They sometimes get caught just barely able to play the fight song at the end of a score. It isn't about "the band not being prepared". It just isn't practical to have them playing something at the end of first downs.

    Bigger than that... even if they could do it... and they can't be ready... while we are on an offensive drive and we, by chance, are in a hurry up offense, we don't want the band playing while our offense is barking out another play, or series of plays, right after we've picked up a first down. They'd be cut off before they started. Sounded like a good idea... but it is not.

    The band just needs to clean it up, play with balls every time they play, start becoming a serious block sound machine at football games, act like they know they are there in support of the football game (ie emulate the biggest and best large sounding bands in college football)... everyone that plays a woodwind is given a horn and forced to learn 4th part, and if anyone argues with me... resembling a band director... I will meet you at the band room and if you agree not to call the police... you and I trade music concepts... then fight... and whoever wins decides the future of what the UL band does at Cajun Field.

    Oh, and the colorguard... they have 75% less "artistic expression"... and 75% more "exercise" as a part of their requirements to be on the squad.


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    _ Sorry, but the football stadium setup with the band is not like a pep band at the ready. There's no chance of having the band prepared during the entire offensive drive to play something after each first down. They sometimes get caught just barely able to play the fight song at the end of a score. It isn't about "the band not being prepared". It just isn't practical to have them playing something at the end of first downs.

    Bigger than that... even if they could do it... and they can't be ready... while we are on an offensive drive and we, by chance, are in a hurry up offense, we don't want the band playing while our offense is barking out another play, or series of plays, right after we've picked up a first down. They'd be cut off before they started. Sounded like a good idea... but it is not.

    The band just needs to clean it up, play with balls every time they play, start becoming a serious block sound machine at football games, act like they know they are there in support of the football game (ie emulate the biggest and best large sounding bands in college football)... everyone that plays a woodwind is given a horn and forced to learn 4th part, and if anyone argues with me... resembling a band director... I will meet you at the band room and if you agree not to call the police... you and I trade music concepts... then fight... and whoever wins decides the future of what the UL band does at Cajun Field.

    Oh, and the colorguard... they have 75% less "artistic expression"... and 75% more "exercise" as a part of their requirements to be on the squad. _
    Agree, with one proviso. Up the dosage. 75% is not enough.

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    _ Sorry, but the football stadium setup with the band is not like a pep band at the ready. There's no chance of having the band prepared during the entire offensive drive to play something after each first down.
    OK, how about we just try to get some coordination beween the PA announcer in the Press Box and the band director? Way too many cases in the past few seasons where the Band and PA have been way out of sync with each other during time outs. This is something I've seen getting progressively worse over the six years I've been attending Cajun games.

    It's all part of creating a big-time game day environment. Improving the management of the game day experience is a necessity; esp. if things go right and better performance on the field translates into better attendance in the stands.

    P.S., a bag of stale tortilla chips and a solo cup of reheated velveeta cheese sauce ain't nachos...

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    Quote Originally Posted by awadelewis View Post
    _ OK, how about we just try to get some coordination beween the PA announcer in the Press Box and the band director? Way too many cases in the past few seasons where the Band and PA have been way out of sync with each other during time outs. This is something I've seen getting progressively worse over the six years I've been attending Cajun games.

    It's all part of creating a big-time game day environment. Improving the management of the game day experience is a necessity; esp. if things go right and better performance on the field translates into better attendance in the stands.

    P.S., a bag of stale tortilla chips and a solo cup of reheated velveeta cheese sauce ain't nachos... _
    I'm in total agreement. The one thing, with respect to the band, that I do not want to have happen... is to turn this into another slam on the band (those under the age of 25). I was also not "attacking" the colorguard. I probably shouldn't have said what I said. I said it, so I get to frame the context. I find it increasely disappointing that young people are as obese as they are today. I have friends that say "hey, I was overweight when I was in highschool" and I go back and pull out a picture of them and say "take a look, this was you at 17... at your heaviest... you are the average now". I'm at the age now that I see a lot of my friends on all kinds of perscription drugs... and the bottom line "was" horrible maintenance of the vessel starting at a young age. That is what I want for these 17 to 23 year old "youngsters"... a little more exercise and some better food choices. And some of us "adults" need to start enforcing that a little better. These "kids" show up on UL's doorstep in very poor health. Only the lucky get the chance at a "near miss" and shock themselves into a better lifestyle. Usually, it's a long road of a crappy life.

    As for the band (the musicians)... dear band director... put your absolute best drummers (lead snare and fastest-handed multi-tom player) and the ballsiest trumpet, trombone, tuba and F trumpet player in charge of everyone. You, the band director... for marching band... just organize them and support what they say to do. Cut the field drill down... only 4% of the football stadium crowd cares about whether they form a fleur de lis or a box that occasionally moves. Pick tunes that allow the massive balance of sound... and do I need to tell you... you sound louder not when you spend 80% of the time on the field turning circles and dancing around like 7 year old girls... and sounding like a sweet, sweet, soft little band. PICK GOOD SOLID DRUM AND HORN TUNES... AND LET THOSE WITH BALLS PLAY!!!!!!!! You will attract more high school drum and horn players that have a scrotum. If they have a bigger attitude than you.... YOU step down!!!

    High school band is falling apart because young men with an active scrotum aren't going to take direction from sissies. Here's the litmus test for band: If the band director hangs out with giggly girls and sissies and can't seem to direct young men with temperment issues into focusing it into ballsy instrument play... you are probably up for a sad, sad band.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    _ Sorry, but the football stadium setup with the band is not like a pep band at the ready. There's no chance of having the band prepared during the entire offensive drive to play something after each first down. They sometimes get caught just barely able to play the fight song at the end of a score. It isn't about "the band not being prepared". It just isn't practical to have them playing something at the end of first downs.

    Bigger than that... even if they could do it... and they can't be ready... while we are on an offensive drive and we, by chance, are in a hurry up offense, we don't want the band playing while our offense is barking out another play, or series of plays, right after we've picked up a first down. They'd be cut off before they started. Sounded like a good idea... but it is not.

    The band just needs to clean it up, play with balls every time they play, start becoming a serious block sound machine at football games, act like they know they are there in support of the football game (ie emulate the biggest and best large sounding bands in college football)... everyone that plays a woodwind is given a horn and forced to learn 4th part, and if anyone argues with me... resembling a band director... I will meet you at the band room and if you agree not to call the police... you and I trade music concepts... then fight... and whoever wins decides the future of what the UL band does at Cajun Field.

    Oh, and the colorguard... they have 75% less "artistic expression"... and 75% more "exercise" as a part of their requirements to be on the squad. _

    I appreciate your comments and I understand your concerns, but I know it can be done. We did it in high school and most of the big college bands do it. It's only a "short tag" that everyone has memorized, and the band members are waiting for it. The same thing every time. Just like playing the fight song after a touchdown. There is no announcement or fumbling around for music, it's just a 1,2,3 by the director.

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    Thanks.

    l just timed myself. Took abbout 7 seconds!!!!!!]I appreciate your comments and I understand your concerns, but I know it can be done. We did it in high school and most of the big college bands do it. It's only a "short tag" that everyone has memorized, and the band members are waiting for it. The same thing every time. Just like playing the fight song after a touchdown. There is no announcement or fumbling around for music, it's just a 1,2,3 by the director. [/QUOTE]

    It took about 7 seconds

    --l think we can handle this

    --we can do it!!!!!lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    _ Thanks.

    l just timed myself. Took abbout 7 seconds!!!!!!]I appreciate your comments and I understand your concerns, but I know it can be done. We did it in high school and most of the big college bands do it. It's only a "short tag" that everyone has memorized, and the band members are waiting for it. The same thing every time. Just like playing the fight song after a touchdown. There is no announcement or fumbling around for music, it's just a 1,2,3 by the director.

    It took about 7 seconds

    --l think we can handle this

    --we can do it!!!!!lol


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    I don't disagree that the band can be readied for a big first down play and do the end of the fight song (the former "Hustle up and Bustle up"). They already know how to do that. I thought you meant "every UL first down". They won't be at the ready on every UL possession to do this for every first down. Not going to happen... but good luck handling this Boomer!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    _ Sorry, but the football stadium setup with the band is not like a pep band at the ready. There's no chance of having the band prepared during the entire offensive drive to play something after each first down. They sometimes get caught just barely able to play the fight song at the end of a score. It isn't about "the band not being prepared". It just isn't practical to have them playing something at the end of first downs.
    Am I imagining things, or did they used to play the end of the fight song at every first down? Recently...maybe 5-7 years ago.

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    Don't cave to political correctness, Matt. Let 'er rip and tell iy like it is. Crushed velvet jumpsuits are not the best look on anyone and the are even worse on an overweight individual. Top that off with those individuals being light in the loafers and it makes you want to run to the concession stands at halftime for more beer.


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    J1M it seems like you are or were a band member and just expressing lazyness. If the Director of the band would emphasize this on the band and emphatically mean it, then it would create a great college atmosphere for the game and is not impossible to do at all. It just takes effort. As much as the effort that the football team is putting out to convey success in a program. Successful winning programs takes effort from every angle. Not just one individual party.

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    I have 3 words...too many woodwinds!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunsHat View Post
    I have 3 words...too many woodwinds!!

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    And quote me on that for our basketball band as well!!!
    Who the hell names a band the "ragin' brass" but has 25% of the band woodwinds!?!
    There is ABSOLUTELY NO need for woodwinds in a basketball pep band...


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    Quote Originally Posted by BabbForHeisman View Post
    _ Am I imagining things, or did they used to play the end of the fight song at every first down? Recently...maybe 5-7 years ago. _
    I believe they did for most 3rd down and all big 4th down conversions. It's not like they can't be readied for a third down or a 4th down we go for. But, on second and 6, they are not going to be prepared to play if we pick up that first (and we don't really need them to be). I think you are right, however, for 3rd and fourth downs... I think they were up and ready and played the fight song ending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    I'm in total agreement. The one thing, with respect to the band, that I do not want to have happen... is to turn this into another slam on the band (those under the age of 25). I was also not "attacking" the colorguard. I probably shouldn't have said what I said. I said it, so I get to frame the context. I find it increasely disappointing that young people are as obese as they are today. I have friends that say "hey, I was overweight when I was in highschool" and I go back and pull out a picture of them and say "take a look, this was you at 17... at your heaviest... you are the average now". I'm at the age now that I see a lot of my friends on all kinds of perscription drugs... and the bottom line "was" horrible maintenance of the vessel starting at a young age. That is what I want for these 17 to 23 year old "youngsters"... a little more exercise and some better food choices. And some of us "adults" need to start enforcing that a little better. These "kids" show up on UL's doorstep in very poor health. Only the lucky get the chance at a "near miss" and shock themselves into a better lifestyle. Usually, it's a long road of a crappy life.

    As for the band (the musicians)... dear band director... put your absolute best drummers (lead snare and fastest-handed multi-tom player) and the ballsiest trumpet, trombone, tuba and F trumpet player in charge of everyone. You, the band director... for marching band... just organize them and support what they say to do. Cut the field drill down... only 4% of the football stadium crowd cares about whether they form a fleur de lis or a box that occasionally moves. Pick tunes that allow the massive balance of sound... and do I need to tell you... you sound louder not when you spend 80% of the time on the field turning circles and dancing around like 7 year old girls... and sounding like a sweet, sweet, soft little band. PICK GOOD SOLID DRUM AND HORN TUNES... AND LET THOSE WITH BALLS PLAY!!!!!!!! You will attract more high school drum and horn players that have a scrotum. If they have a bigger attitude than you.... YOU step down!!!

    High school band is falling apart because young men with an active scrotum aren't going to take direction from sissies. Here's the litmus test for band: If the band director hangs out with giggly girls and sissies and can't seem to direct young men with temperment issues into focusing it into ballsy instrument play... you are probably up for a sad, sad band.



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    The wife and l agree!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    _ Although I like the crowds Cajun yell after the announcer says "FIRST DOWN"---I think we need a little pep piece---Like if the band would play the Hustle up and Bustle up and fight on to victory part of the ending of the fight song

    And the whole stadium follows with GEAUX UL!!!!!! Besides the obvious emotional affect on the team and fans it reinforces the UL to all!!!!!! Now can some band dude make this happen????? _

    UH, you guys need to wake up! The BAND ALWAYS plays the Fight Song Tag when then team makes a first down; at least they're supposed to. I know the Band, nowadays, doesn't exactly pay attention to the game the way WE (the Band in the '80's!) used to back in the day...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOCajun View Post
    _ UH, you guys need to wake up! The BAND ALWAYS plays the Fight Song Tag when then team makes a first down; at least they're supposed to. I know the Band, nowadays, doesn't exactly pay attention to the game the way WE (the Band in the '80's!) used to back in the day... _

    OK, I was in the band in the late 70's. So I can speak with a little bit of knowledge. Everything posted here is correct.

    We are not loud enough.
    We have too high a percentage of woodwinds.
    We are not "in tune" with the game.
    We worry too much about doing this "drum corps" stuff (mainly for hard core band groupies)
    Those velet suits really are horrible

    My opinion..........We don't qualify as "The Pride Of Acadiana" any more. If the band wants to retain everything above, just change the name to "The Special Interest Band that Doesn't Get It".

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