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    UL 1984, 1999 . . . . Nip it in the Bud get the name right SunBelt Coaches (I called Jay)

    I should say that on paper this may sound like Jay and I were at each other's throats. We were not. We simply went back and forth.

    Jay had just interviewed the coach of the team that Louisiana is playing in baseball this weekend, for about 20 minutes. The very subject was their upcoming series against Louisiana.

    I noticed about 5 minutes into the interview that he was using the word Lafayette a lot. 30 times or so through the 20 minute interview. "Lafayette this", "Lafayette that", very nice things but just diarrhea of Lafayette. A passing motorist listening would not know who was being discussed.

    The word Louisiana was not mentioned once in the entire interview. Not by Jay not by his friend. Not "Louisiana-Lafayette", nor UL, nor the least favorite UL-Lafayette, nada zip. Just Lafayette.

    Well of course the focus yesterday was on Benson, but because of this one sided delivery I had to take a swing, and against my better judgment I hijacked the show as I decided I couldn't let this slide.

    Actually Jay and I were supposed to discuss this issue a few weeks back but my grandmother died the Saturday before the Monday I was to call in. The next Week coach Lancon had died so I put it on the back burner.

    Yesterday I concluded there would never be a perfect time. So even though I have notes at home, (I had promised to bring my "A" game) I felt compelled to call in and discuss the issue off the cuff. Jay was after all limited to off the cuff as well.

    We talked about 10 minutes, at first I just wanted to know how this coach came to his solo usage of Lafayette? He didn't use Lafayette when we were USL. Was it from reading media reports? Was it from Louisiana's own press reports? Was it because the sports information director tells the media it is ok to ignore Louisiana and promote Lafayette?

    I was a little absurd as I only referred to the person being interviewed as the "Coach of South". Jay defended the coach of South's intentions, and yes he was very complimentary of Lafayette. Any way Jay named a few schools that go by the city designation, such as Green Bay, UNLV, and Charlotte. These are all schools that pretty much crave and ask to be referred to as such.

    Part of what I wanted to ask but it escaped me, was does "South's" coach actually think we want to be called Lafayette? Those schools that Jay mentioned crave the city connection. This wasn't discussed but I can see why a Las Vegas would want the city mentioned, that city defines the state. Green Bay is synonymous with football, I can see a football advantage there, although the school name does not ring any bells with me, perhaps when I heard it in the past I thought they were talking abut the NFL team. Charlotte has to go up against Chapel Hill, which simply goes by The University of North Carolina. I can understand those schools pushing the city.

    Jay may not have been asking for this specifically but this was how I took it. He asked me to name one school that has a State @ city designation that doesn't use the city name.
    I mentioned
    Nebraska @ Lincoln Nebraska UNL
    Georgia @ Athens Georgia UGA
    Texas @ Austin Texas UTA
    (I didn't mention but wish I had) North Carolina @ Chapel Hill Carolina

    I mentioned how 40 of the 50 states have "State @ City" schools yet they go simply by the State. On every one of their letterheads the city will be there.

    80% of those States have a school that legally is not just "University of ____" but that is how the media reports their name. Why is our media so wary of being politically correct?

    At some point Jay mentioned Louisiana-Lafayette, I got back to my original point of the local media feeling compelled to use Lafayette. I stated that if they are that conscious of following the letter of the law, they are missing the mark, there is no such school as "Louisiana-Lafayette" the law says Louisiana @ Lafayette. I used the words Louisiana "dash" Lafayette to make my point.

    I brought up the fact that if they followed the letter of the law, the only time Lafayette requires a mention (and only by the University itself) is if the term "University of" is the prefix, otherwise they are free to use just "Louisiana".

    Louisiana is who we are; Lafayette is where we are "@". For the media to refer to the @ as the "who", and either ignore the "who" or designify the "who", then they are perpetuating the problem.

    For those within the University who are sleepwalking through this issue, they are being very disingenuous. To promote the supplanting of who we are with where we are, defeats every gain the name change corralled.

    Jay rightfully defended that at no time had he ever referred to Louisiana as Lafayette. He stated that the fight would be a 30-year fight, and that eventually we would prevail.

    We had fun but alas the topic of the day was Benson, and we had to part ways.

    ps this was not an attack on Jay


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    Very good point. The one thing I fail to see by the media and University is the correction of the use of Lafayette.
    Why didn't Jay politely redirect the coach to use Louisiana? I think he has been around long enough to make that distinction.


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    Ragin' Cajuns Well said

    Wish I could have listened to the show. When I took over as moderator of the Louisiana BB, I asked them to change the name from Louisiana Lafayette to Louisiana and they did. I still have to get them to change it on the top (of the choices) but the name of the board is Louisiana. I have emailed ESPN, FOX Sports Net and the university itself over the use of UL-Lafayette but have not once received an answer. I stated on the Delphi forum that I will not charge these windmills anymore the networks are only folloing what the university tells them. However, the local media does know better. I enjoy listening to Jay and Todd because they do not use that UL-Lafayette crap. I also enjoy reading Dan McDonald with the D.A. (who I think I unjustly attacked on the the Delphi board earlier this year) because he seems to avoid the UL-Lafayette tag also. I guess I just wanted to say keep up the fight and I am behind you. I will do all I can over on Louisiana BB to keep up my end.


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    I have a Question Name failure

    I never call but I listen to the Birds eye view show every afternoon and that is as far as I need to go to prove that the marketing the school is a dismal failure. Every Sunbelt coaches interview I have ever heard has the coaches calling us Lafayette. How small time can you get?


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    dipdunk goofballs in the News Diservices dept.


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    No, dip dunk coaches in the SBC. Jay tried leading them by referring to us as Louisiana and the Cajuns, but no soap. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. These birds have a thing about us. Just look at the all conference team. 'Nuf sed!!


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    if you are in boston, you cannot possibly see what's on the basketball uniform,marquee,caps,etc. all say louisiana's ragin cajuns or ragin cajuns, no lafayette. if they choose to continue to say lafayette it's their stupidity that is doing it. come on chuck get your facts straight, okay! or listen more closely.


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    Oldman, you have hit the nail head squarely. By the way how old are you? I can remember the headlines when Lincoln was shot!!!


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