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    This is a GREAT IDEA Re: Enrollment

    I know SLCC has had a major pump in students over the summer. That could have something to do w/ it.


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    Also, your enrollment went down by 25 students.

    I wouldn't call that statistically significant.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    _ We only have 15k enrollment???? What is the deal at Tech and ULM???? I heard that their school population was up--but I can't see that we are going down and with the North La loss of population that their numbers are increasing---I think folkes are playing games with online students!!!!!! _

    Also. You're pulling this north LA population loss from thin air. There's no such thing, and even if there was, you wouldn't know it until the census is completed in 2010. I've never heard this. Ever.

    Ruston is growing, Shreveport is growing, and Monroe is relatively stable, if not dropping slightly. The Haynesville Shale, V-Vehicle plant, and other new industry that has recently come about in North LA will show the opposite trend.

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    _ I don't know WHERE you are getting these numbers from.

    http://www.ulsystem.net/assets/docs/...ment_20081.pdf

    From the UL System.

    ULL 16,320 Down .15%
    Tech 10,950 Up 3%
    ULM 8,767 Up 2.5%

    I believe these figures are only undergraduates. Could be wrong though. _
    At least these figures look realistic compared to others I've seen recently!

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    I had posted this before

    -on the Moon Griffon show a guy ---I think his name was Elliot Stonecipher( I am sure I am killing the spelling) talked about Louisiana losing a congressman---this is based on population as we all know---BUT he mentioned the redistricting and that North La would get only one---BECAUSE of the loss of population and he then mentioned the number of 25-40 year old women that had left the area===That is what was said!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by NOCajun View Post
    _ At least these figures look realistic compared to others I've seen recently! _
    I was told that we have the most graduate students of the 3 schools---Don't know but Cajun Fun is our dude for stats!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    _ I had posted this before

    -on the Moon Griffon show a guy ---I think his name was Elliot Stonecipher( I am sure I am killing the spelling) talked about Louisiana losing a congressman---this is based on population as we all know---BUT he mentioned the redistricting and that North La would get only one---BECAUSE of the loss of population and he then mentioned the number of 25-40 year old women that had left the area===That is what was said!!!! _

    Meanwhile, in reality:

    http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=...ish+population

    http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=...ish+population

    http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=...ish+population

    http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=...ish+population

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    _ I had posted this before

    -on the Moon Griffon show a guy ---I think his name was Elliot Stonecipher( I am sure I am killing the spelling) talked about Louisiana losing a congressman---this is based on population as we all know---BUT he mentioned the redistricting and that North La would get only one---BECAUSE of the loss of population and he then mentioned the number of 25-40 year old women that had left the area===That is what was said!!!! _

    http://www.la-par.org/PAR%20News%20F...05.02.2009.pdf

    Good spelling, by the way.

    The article says that yes, we will lose a congressman, but not North Louisiana. The area covered by Assumption, Vermillion, Iberia, Iberville, Lafourche, and Terrebonne is split into two districts. It may be lumped into one district resulting in only 6 Congressman.

    Rep. Melancon is my congressman, and I've heard about this happening, as he will be struggling for one less seat. But North Louisiana is stable. Bossier parish especially is exploding.

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    So if one looks at the huge jump of Lafayette

    per your stats

    is this why the stats are skewed the wrong way???? I am surprised at the loss of Shreveport!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    _ So if one looks at the huge jump of Lafayette

    per your stats

    is this why the stats are skewed the wrong way???? I am surprised at the loss of Shreveport!!!! _

    If you are talking about your enrollment stats, then I think you are seeing something that isn't there.

    UL Lafayette lost 0.15% of enrollment, or 25 students. In a school of 16,000, that's a minor fluctuation, and is not statistically significant. Tech's increase of 400 (3%) is significant, but not quite so when compared to numbers through 2005. These numbers can fluctuate drastically from year to year. between 2007-2008, Tech experienced a decrease.

    And even though Lafayette is increasing in size, it doesn't mean that everyone in the school sends its students to your school.

    This is not to say that ULL is doing poorly. Its just a numbers game. They will fluxuate from time to time, and as long as its not a steady downward trend, there's no issue.

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    Per our Pres---we finally have a great one

    we want to be at 21k in 3 years--this with a demography that isn't too good for Louisiana but seems to be great for lafayette!!! the stated reasons for this goal are one-- an increase in the number of older students getting a college degree in an area like Lafayette

    two--an increased ACT score from incoming Freshmen thank God for Catholic education--lol--We are the largest Catholic school in the nation

    -Large # of the local JCs continuing to UL along with LSUE--- and finally the retention of existing students!!!!! We have stepped up recruiting big time and it will show this year both in under gaduate and Graduate students

    --Also a much more inviting campus with the recent beautification program!!!!!


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    Andre's new plan for LA Higher Education. It will be hard on some at first, but eventually we will all come to love it and like it; and realize that it is for the best of the state.


    InstitutionFall 2008Fall 2010
    Grambling State University5253at LTU
    Louisiana Tech University1095024970
    McNeese State University8294at UL
    Nicholls State University6926at UL
    Northwestern State University91119111
    Southeastern Louisiana University1522415224
    University of Louisiana1632031540
    University of Louisiana at Monroe8767at LTU
    University of Louisiana System8084580845


    I know this is not possible as LTU & UL's campus' cannot handle this many students at this time. But what if a plan was developed to slowly shut down these four univerities and build up the other four? Start building new buildings now, I'm running for Governor......later on!

    Oh yeah the LSU and SU systems will HATE THIS for sure! Screw them, I'm in charge now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    _ I was told that we have the most graduate students of the 3 schools---Don't know but Cajun Fun is our dude for stats!!! _
    We have the most graduate students behind lsua&mc@br because we also have the most graduate programs behind that same institution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    _ Per our Pres---we finally have a great one

    we want to be at 21k in 3 years--this with a demography that isn't too good for Louisiana but seems to be great for lafayette!!! the stated reasons for this goal are one-- an increase in the number of older students getting a college degree in an area like Lafayette

    two--an increased ACT score from incoming Freshmen thank God for Catholic education--lol--We are the largest Catholic school in the nation

    -Large # of the local JCs continuing to UL along with LSUE--- and finally the retention of existing students!!!!! We have stepped up recruiting big time and it will show this year both in under gaduate and Graduate students

    --Also a much more inviting campus with the recent beautification program!!!!! _

    No way we get to 21K in three years. Only a federal program where people would get free tuition would we get that kind of increase. I think getting to 17K in 3 years is a reasonable goal.
    As for the catholic thing. Here in NOLA people are shelling out big bucks for school. Most people I know have hopes for their kids getting into prestigeous out-of-state programs. If you look at the HS marketing material...that is what they are selling. Even LSU is not the end game for most of these kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    _ Per our Pres---we finally have a great one

    we want to be at 21k in 3 years--this with a demography that isn't too good for Louisiana but seems to be great for lafayette!!! the stated reasons for this goal are one-- an increase in the number of older students getting a college degree in an area like Lafayette

    two--an increased ACT score from incoming Freshmen thank God for Catholic education--lol--We are the largest Catholic school in the nation

    -Large # of the local JCs continuing to UL along with LSUE--- and finally the retention of existing students!!!!! We have stepped up recruiting big time and it will show this year both in under gaduate and Graduate students

    --Also a much more inviting campus with the recent beautification program!!!!! _

    I didn't know that we were a Catholic University. That means that we should play Notre Dame & Boston College and the like every season. Funny, i don't remember going to any religion or Christian Ed classes when I was enrolled at USL. I do know that a larger portion of CENLA has begun to come to UL than there has been before, thats another demographic where recruiting needs to be done, academics and athletics.

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    Of course I am speaking of the number of Catholic students that are enrolled---But you just gave me an idea

    -What if we play one of the Utah schools---I was told that we had talked to the Fighting Irish about a game in the Dome---Irish against the Cajuns!11 Sweet if they don't get better!!!!


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    _ Also. You're pulling this north LA population loss from thin air. There's no such thing, and even if there was, you wouldn't know it until the census is completed in 2010. I've never heard this. Ever.

    Ruston is growing, Shreveport is growing, and Monroe is relatively stable, if not dropping slightly. The Haynesville Shale, V-Vehicle plant, and other new industry that has recently come about in North LA will show the opposite trend. _
    The loss of population in N. LA. is not out of thin air. And this probably has little to do with university undergraduate population, but you made it seem N. Louisiana is not shrinking in population and that somehow this is just made up. So, using the google population map you cited I spent way too much time looking at the populations of the parishes north of Alex. Seventeen of those parishes fell in population and six increased (the largest being Bossier up by 36% or 29,500 people from 1980 to 2009.) Some of these places are hemorrhaging people: E. Carroll, Tensas, and Madison have lost 25 to 36% of their population.

    But per cent can be misleading, so I looked at actual number of growth in each parish and the net total for 24 northern or central Louisiana parishes is negative 16,600 folks. I did not have time to figure out what 16,600 is as a per cent of the total (it is probably 2 or 3%), but it is shrinking when the average nationwide for growth is about 2 to 3 per cent.

    I'm not a big Moon fan, but I did hear the show where population guy was on, and what he was saying is that the trend in LA. is that the I-10 corridor is growing fast while north La. (with the exception of Shreveport and Ruston) is shrinking. If you remove those two population centers,and the bottom falls out population wise for the northern half of our state. The ten parishes around Lafayette, by comparison, have grown by a population of 103,500 (the largest being Lafayette which has grown 37% or 56,700 people.) Most these parishes have grown by double digit per cent. Now, some of this may be Katrina generated, but certainly not all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LATechDawgs View Post
    _ Also. You're pulling this north LA population loss from thin air. There's no such thing, and even if there was, you wouldn't know it until the census is completed in 2010. I've never heard this. Ever.

    Ruston is growing, Shreveport is growing, and Monroe is relatively stable, if not dropping slightly. The Haynesville Shale, V-Vehicle plant, and other new industry that has recently come about in North LA will show the opposite trend. _
    I believe Boomer's right, north Louisiana is shrinking. Elliot Stonecipher says that in 25 years, Louisiana has not grown, while the US has grown 33%. Within the state, the only parishes that have kept up with national growth have all been on the I-10 corridor, with Bossier Parish as the lone exception.

    So if the I-10 corridor is growing rapidly, and Louisiana's population is stagnant, then north Louisiana has to be shrinking...

    (BTW, Stonecipher also points out that all the parishes that have kept up, except Lafayette & Bossier, grew because of white flight; Bossier grew because of Barksdale. Only Lafayette grew by diversifying our economy. Stonecipher is from Shreveport, so his assessments should be impartial.)

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    OK, time to point out the smoke & mirrors.

    Those numbers are undergrad enrollment. You also need to include grad school numbers. You also need part time enrollment.

    And you need 'junk' enrollment. Leisure Learning? Continuing Ed? I've been told those numbers are also included. Mind you, every school in the country counts those kind of courses, so if it's not entirely honest, at least it's consistent.

    Boomer, as for graduate enrollment I saw a single source that reported that Tech has a larger grad school than UL does. I have doubts about that, because we're twice their size, we have 3 or 4 more PhD programs, and we have a much larger research budget (which correlates with grad school activity). It's possible their masters programs make up the difference, particularly if they offer Masters programs that are the only such offerings in north Louisiana. Like I said, it seems doubtful. I'll keep digging.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post
    _ I believe Boomer's right, north Louisiana is shrinking. Elliot Stonecipher says that in 25 years, Louisiana has not grown, while the US has grown 33%. Within the state, the only parishes that have kept up with national growth have all been on the I-10 corridor, with Bossier Parish as the lone exception.

    So if the I-10 corridor is growing rapidly, and Louisiana's population is stagnant, then north Louisiana has to be shrinking...

    (BTW, Stonecipher also points out that all the parishes that have kept up, except Lafayette & Bossier, grew because of white flight; Bossier grew because of Barksdale. Only Lafayette grew by diversifying our economy. Stonecipher is from Shreveport, so his assessments should be impartial.) _
    So why would not a congressman be taken from North La.?--Gerrymandering is truly their only hope---If we get 6

    --1 in the North(Sport,Alex and Mon)

    --1 in Lafayette1 and West(LC)

    -1 in BR

    ---1 in northshore

    --1 in NO

    --1 from NO through Jeff, St Charles Terr St Mary NI Assumpt. and Ascension!!!!


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