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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    You going to China to watch basketball? NBA will lose fans over them allowing politics to be brought into their sport. Their biggest star is now a SJW with his own show. Take away tournament brackets and half the "fans" wouldn't give a ___ about March madness. College is continuing to push out mid majors more and more which is what people love about March madness...and why the first round is the biggest draw, underdogs and brackets . Basketball and soccer are huge globally bc the poorest of people in the poorest countries can play it. You just need a ball. Fans are turning away from today's game, they are attracting wrestling fans who like the drama. The game sucks, load management, stars resting, no defense, jacking up 3 threes...half the league tanking after the all star break.
    While I disagree with a lot of your reasons you stated, I will refrain from getting into that, however, the same is said about baseball. While locally baseball is growing, I think across the country its more plateaued to the point it may be on a decline. Game times are terrible and MLB has been experimenting with ways to try reduce game times and get more offense. The funny thing is the average fan wants to see offense which is why NBA continues to grow. You list it as a negative but to the average fan, its a positive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    While I disagree with a lot of your reasons you stated, I will refrain from getting into that, however, the same is said about baseball. While locally baseball is growing, I think across the country its more plateaued to the point it may be on a decline. Game times are terrible and MLB has been experimenting with ways to try reduce game times and get more offense. The funny thing is the average fan wants to see offense which is why NBA continues to grow. You list it as a negative but to the average fan, its a positive.
    Crossing half court and throwing up a shot is not an offense. If the nba was doing so well here why do they need to go to China? Why would they feel the need to defend China so much? And condemn one of their own for talking about people's freedoms? Because they would be up ___ creek without their money. It's ok, we probably won't agree on this, doesn't really matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    What I just posted to you is FACT. The decline they are speaking of is the anticipated revenue they would have had prior to the China debacle and the Houston GM. They are estimated a $3 million dollar loss in projected profits due to that deal but the fact is the Salary Cap is going up. I mean, we aren't pulling it out of air. You can go look it up yourself.
    The NBA salary cap is not going up. The China/Houston situation is way more than $3m

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    You going to China to watch basketball? NBA will lose fans over them allowing politics to be brought into their sport. Their biggest star is now a SJW with his own show. Take away tournament brackets and half the "fans" wouldn't give a ___ about March madness. College is continuing to push out mid majors more and more which is what people love about March madness...and why the first round is the biggest draw, underdogs and brackets . Basketball and soccer are huge globally bc the poorest of people in the poorest countries can play it. You just need a ball. Fans are turning away from today's game, they are attracting wrestling fans who like the drama. The game sucks, load management, stars resting, no defense, jacking up 3 threes...half the league tanking after the all star break.

    I agree with much of what is said in this post. I particularly think the reliance on the three point game is hurting the sport. Warriors were successful with that philosophy but few teams have healthy Klay Thompson and Stephen Curry on their squads. There is only one Curry and coaches feel to realize that. Every coach I talk to says as soon as young kids walk in the gym they start taking long range shots. Brad Boyd earned his scholarship with the three ball and he said on the radio the proper way to begin a shooting routine is from the inside out. Defenses will adjust one day and begin defending the three first and basket second. That will allow the return of the mid range game which will help the sport. As far as the pro game is concerned, media pushing the super teams in the major markets is alienating the fans of other markets. I myself make a point NOT to watch the Lakers in protest of that system.

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    Looking at student protesters being brutalized for expressing their fear of a despotic regime. Perhaps it's not the place of a business leader to publicly be critical of his business partners, but there's zero doubt about who has the moral high grounds. Unfortunately the players cannot understand that because they've been trained to hate the system, and country that's done more good in the world than the rest of the world put together.


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    I love ragin pagin


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    Why can't it ALL be right?

    Yes, we're in a crap league.
    Yes, the college basketball product has declined dramatically.
    Yes, money in collegiate sports has hurt us.
    Yes, Marlin is a middle of the road coach.
    Yes, the post season system in broken.
    Yes, we've missed on recruits.
    Yes, winning 27 games means little to casual fans who want to see their team dancing in March & Yes, it's winning a regular season title is an accomplishment.
    Yes, our schedule has been AWFUL for years.
    Yes, we lack relationships necessary to get respected programs to come to the Dome & Yes, it doesn't pay for them come here and risk defeat.
    Yes, we've spent too much time making excuses.

    For those that still talk about 27 wins.. IMO, you can't go from an average team year in and year out, to a super team for one season and expect the crowds to sky rocket. Also, lacking marquee victories MATTERS to sports fans. Fans want to know a "good" Cajun team can compete nationally. We've never proven to do that under the current regime. Even if they rebound next season and win 20+ games, that fact WILL NOT change until this staff goes out and starts beating recognizable schools. This is the biggest hurdle back to relevance and I think most people have made up their minds in this regard. 10 years of something is a pretty decent sample size.


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    We rarely beat the new standard of this weak conference. And yeah, I know our conference isn't #34 but it's half a ss


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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Why can't it ALL be right?

    Yes, we're in a crap league.
    Yes, the college basketball product has declined dramatically.
    Yes, money in collegiate sports has hurt us.
    Yes, Marlin is a middle of the road coach.
    Yes, the post season system in broken.
    Yes, we've missed on recruits.
    Yes, winning 27 games means little to casual fans who want to see their team dancing in March & Yes, it's winning a regular season title is an accomplishment.
    Yes, our schedule has been AWFUL for years.
    Yes, we lack relationships necessary to get respected programs to come to the Dome & Yes, it doesn't pay for them come here and risk defeat.
    Yes, we've spent too much time making excuses.

    For those that still talk about 27 wins.. IMO, you can't go from an average team year in and year out, to a super team for one season and expect the crowds to sky rocket. Also, lacking marquee victories MATTERS to sports fans. Fans want to know a "good" Cajun team can compete nationally. We've never proven to do that under the current regime. Even if they rebound next season and win 20+ games, that fact WILL NOT change until this staff goes out and starts beating recognizable schools. This is the biggest hurdle back to relevance and I think most people have made up their minds in this regard. 10 years of something is a pretty decent sample size.
    You forgot one...

    Yes, the "challenge series" the P5 conferenes participate in (such as SEC v B12 this year) is more financially lucrative than anything a mid major can offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    You going to China to watch basketball? NBA will lose fans over them allowing politics to be brought into their sport. Their biggest star is now a SJW with his own show. Take away tournament brackets and half the "fans" wouldn't give a ___ about March madness. College is continuing to push out mid majors more and more which is what people love about March madness...and why the first round is the biggest draw, underdogs and brackets . Basketball and soccer are huge globally bc the poorest of people in the poorest countries can play it. You just need a ball. Fans are turning away from today's game, they are attracting wrestling fans who like the drama. The game sucks, load management, stars resting, no defense, jacking up 3 threes...half the league tanking after the all star break.
    NBA is a POS.. I am curious though.. Who is the SJW you speak of??

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealZeebart View Post
    NBA is a POS.. I am curious though.. Who is the SJW you speak of??
    Think he is speaking about LeBron. Excuse my ignorance but I don't know what the acronym SJW stands for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Think he is speaking about LeBron. Excuse my ignorance but I don't know what the acronym SJW stands for.
    Social justice warrior

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    Social justice warrior
    Lebron sure was not worried about achieving social justice for the folks in Hong Kong was he? He actually wondered if Darryl Morey of the Rockets would be fired. The commissioner did a good job of calming down that situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealZeebart View Post
    NBA is a POS.. I am curious though.. Who is the SJW you speak of??
    LeBron

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    LeBron
    ZeBron *

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    I agree with much of what is said in this post. I particularly think the reliance on the three point game is hurting the sport. Warriors were successful with that philosophy but few teams have healthy Klay Thompson and Stephen Curry on their squads. There is only one Curry and coaches feel to realize that. Every coach I talk to says as soon as young kids walk in the gym they start taking long range shots. Brad Boyd earned his scholarship with the three ball and he said on the radio the proper way to begin a shooting routine is from the inside out. Defenses will adjust one day and begin defending the three first and basket second. That will allow the return of the mid range game which will help the sport. As far as the pro game is concerned, media pushing the super teams in the major markets is alienating the fans of other markets. I myself make a point NOT to watch the Lakers in protest of that system.
    People are already starting to defend the 3 first and hoop second. It all depends on the personnel they are defending. Mike, you keep saying the mid range is dead....It's not. The top players in the NBA are all excellent in mid range and use it consistently. There are specialists now in the NBA that make their living at the 3 point line but there are a lot of players that are using the mid range now because of the defense at the arc.

    You mentioned GSW. Those players you mentioned are also heavy mid range users as well. Durant was one of the leaders in mid range attempts in his time there and Klay shoots from the elbow often. It was not dead, it was just underutilized but like you said, you have to have the personnel to be shooting all the outside shots, especially when you are passing up open mid range shots for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuns80 View Post
    The NBA salary cap is not going up. The China/Houston situation is way more than $3m
    The salary cap is going up from this to next. Yes, its going up. The $3 million number I used was meant to be per team as they broke down the estimated loss and averaged it out per team. That is an estimate of course. The cap for this year is $109 million. Next year, it will be at $115 million. The "decline" that everyone keeps mentioning and where they are wrong is that the previous estimate had the new cap over $116 million. The reduction in the future estimate is perceived to be through the debacle that occurred in China and subsequent lost revenue. All of a sudden, the game is dead.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    Crossing half court and throwing up a shot is not an offense. If the nba was doing so well here why do they need to go to China? Why would they feel the need to defend China so much? And condemn one of their own for talking about people's freedoms? Because they would be up ___ creek without their money. It's ok, we probably won't agree on this, doesn't really matter.
    They don't need China. However, everyone with a successful and growing sport knows that the best way to increase your value is to grow your brand. How do you do that? You grow it across the globe. Being one of the most populated and richest cultures, its a natural fit. Also, the merchandise sales of NBA in China is another reason as they have some of the highest sales in the world. Their people are fans of the game and league.

    You're right, we won't agree. You think the offense is throw the ball up when you cross half court. You obviously don't watch much of the game. Perhaps your baseball should take a few pointers in trying to create excitement. The problem with baseball is that by increasing the offensive output, you are likely increasing the time of an already brutally long game.

    The funny part is that if you thought the NBA of the 90's was actually better ball, you'd be in the minority. Games in the 80's and all isolation game. The game style of today is very similar with what it was back when you may have been a fan like I was in the 80's. Lakers and Celtics games were 120-110 or more.

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    How many players on our roster can make a 15 foot jumper consistently?


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