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    Watching Roydell last night made me think, man we sure could have used that guy last year and right now. I suppose we're all too impatient these days. I just don't understand the benefit to bouncing around junior colleges just to end up at McNeese.
    Could we have used him? Maybe. He wasn't going to play in front of Gant.

    Had a long thread about the high number of transfers in NCAA basketball, thousands of high school studs chasing 1,755 starting slots in D-1 basketball. Settling in at McNeese as a leader, which has been putrid of late, worked for Brown. Big fish in a little pond.

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    This years team is a has mid level Southland Conference talent. I won' be surprised if we are a .500 team this year. We don't have a big to protect the rim and get rebounds.
    I don't pay attention to basketball, but if you end up being correct on this, then why don't we just bring in a coach for $250k rather than the $500k+ we're currently tied to, and call it a day?

    Someone young and hungry who wants to win and move up, similar to the Napier and Hud hiring strategy? Marlin is starting to remind me of the Bustle era, just comfortable with this being the final gig for as long as possible.

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    I don't pay attention to basketball, but if you end up being correct on this, then why don't we just bring in a coach for $250k rather than the $500k+ we're currently tied to, and call it a day?

    Someone young and hungry who wants to win and move up, similar to the Napier and Hud hiring strategy? Marlin is starting to remind me of the Bustle era, just comfortable with this being the final gig for as long as possible.
    This reminds you of Bustle and football because Marlin is just like Bustle, nice guy, good enough coach to not be a total embarrassment, but no chance of excellence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunrunner View Post
    I don't pay attention to basketball, but if you end up being correct on this, then why don't we just bring in a coach for $250k rather than the $500k+ we're currently tied to, and call it a day?

    Someone young and hungry who wants to win and move up, similar to the Napier and Hud hiring strategy? Marlin is starting to remind me of the Bustle era, just comfortable with this being the final gig for as long as possible.
    Would Brad Boyd coach for 200G? He's roughly the same age as the Nicholls coach, a little older.

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    So inexperienced and green right now, especially on offense IMO. In the first half there was no one to drive the bus on offense. Even if PJ was on the team, the PG spot was not going to be satisfactory and that's always going to really make it hard to get going most nights. The defensive issues have been discussed above and the lack of bodies will just be brutal all season. Also, even if the team came together immediately, there's just so many issues to be overcome to even compete for a top half finish this season.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Geaux View Post
    This years team is a has mid level Southland Conference talent. I won' be surprised if we are a .500 team this year. We don't have a big to protect the rim and get rebounds.
    Dou and Tirus Smith will be able to help protect the rim. Johnson has actually shown the ability to do so at times this year as well. He had 3 blocks against McNeese who was a bigger team. Problem is that Dou gets in foul trouble with his aggressiveness and Smith is not healthy.

    In regards to talent, I think we have some young talent but what we are currently lacking is go to guys who can score. With everything going on with this program this year already, its going to be hard to see how we do much better than .500 or so. When people say they are apathetic, its hard to argue with them as to why.

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    So inexperienced and green right now, especially on offense IMO.
    I'm having a hard time justifying how the coaching staff could let the recruiting balance get this much off kilter. I can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wcd35 View Post
    So inexperienced and green right now, especially on offense IMO. In the first half there was no one to drive the bus on offense. Even if PJ was on the team, the PG spot was not going to be satisfactory and that's always going to really make it hard to get going most nights. The defensive issues have been discussed above and the lack of bodies will just be brutal all season. Also, even if the team came together immediately, there's just so many issues to be overcome to even compete for a top half finish this season.
    Losing Wesley really hurts in this situation. True PG who could held distribute and facilitate. Mylik Wilson is going to have to step up and develop there quickly. He has the quickness to break defenses down and athleticism to finish at the rim. He also made some nice finds against McNeese.

    In regards to defense, we need to play Temple more as it looks like he's possibly our best perimeter defender and good in transition.

    We are going to have trouble with just about all of our OOC games. I saw TCU play and they are much longer and athletic. Detroit Mercy seems to be possibly a little bigger than us and will be an interesting game, especially with Justin Miller there.

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    So inexperienced and green right now, especially on offense IMO. In the first half there was no one to drive the bus on offense. Even if PJ was on the team, the PG spot was not going to be satisfactory and that's always going to really make it hard to get going most nights. The defensive issues have been discussed above and the lack of bodies will just be brutal all season. Also, even if the team came together immediately, there's just so many issues to be overcome to even compete for a top half finish this season.
    Wilson is already a good point guard and should improve to great. He's gonna get 30+ minutes a game. Whose going to replace him for those ten or less minutes, and when he's got foul issues.

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    Wilson is already a good point guard and should improve to great. He's gonna get 30+ minutes a game. Whose going to replace him for those ten or less minutes, and when he's got foul issues.
    If Wilson is not available, it will be very rough for the Cajuns. Guy played 40 minutes the other night and will have to do that often. Hopefully he does not get freshman burn out halfway through the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    I'm having a hard time justifying how the coaching staff could let the recruiting balance get this much off kilter. I can't.
    Lots of issues went into the heavy roster turnover that occurred during the offseason. However, no one could have predicted the amount of injuries that would occur. Nor could you have predicted a medical issue would arise and a suspension would occur. Lots of challenges to be overcome as a result. Hopefully they can get back to having 10 players to practice soon. Agree that several upcoming games will be tough. Five of the eight players available tomorrow night will be participating in their first ever D1 road game and it is against a capable Big 12 foe. No idea what will happen but I would not be surprised if it is a rough game for the Cajuns.

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    Is anything known about the extent of Lowrey's injury? I haven't seen anything besides the report of him being on crutches at the game Saturday.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatch View Post
    Is anything known about the extent of Lowrey's injury? I haven't seen anything besides the report of him being on crutches at the game Saturday.
    He hurt his knee when he fell into the basket support on Tuesday night against Loyola. Although he stayed in that game, often problem is recognized after cool down occurs. No idea how long he will be out but I would not be surprised if he misses several games.

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    Think Big Fish said they'd know more today.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Lots of issues went into the heavy roster turnover that occurred during the offseason. However, no one could have predicted the amount of injuries that would occur. Nor could you have predicted a medical issue would arise and a suspension would occur. Lots of challenges to be overcome as a result. Hopefully they can get back to having 10 players to practice soon. Agree that several upcoming games will be tough. Five of the eight players available tomorrow night will be participating in their first ever D1 road game and it is against a capable Big 12 foe. No idea what will happen but I would not be surprised if it is a rough game for the Cajuns.
    The injuries couldn't have come at a worse time, especially with the fact that we have a tough few games coming up. What gets me, though, is what Turbine said. Why in the world were we put in this position in the first place? We recruited guys after 2017-2018, and four (?) of them leave after last season to where we have literally a brand new roster. Now, we have a brand new roster with injuries.

    I know people don't want to hear this, but this is what frustrates a lot of our fans. We should've never been put in this position to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    Losing Wesley really hurts in this situation. True PG who could held distribute and facilitate. Mylik Wilson is going to have to step up and develop there quickly. He has the quickness to break defenses down and athleticism to finish at the rim. He also made some nice finds against McNeese.

    In regards to defense, we need to play Temple more as it looks like he's possibly our best perimeter defender and good in transition.

    We are going to have trouble with just about all of our OOC games. I saw TCU play and they are much longer and athletic. Detroit Mercy seems to be possibly a little bigger than us and will be an interesting game, especially with Justin Miller there.
    I wasnt very high on Wesley but at least he was a PG. Feels like all other options are either not true PG's or are still raw. I like Wilson a lot but you're right that he's going to have to develop quickly and there's no depth. Felt like there wasnt a real PG out there much of that first half. Just a lot of perimeter screens and handoffs then settling for a jumper or forcing it into the post.

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    not bobby fault we had all these injuries


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunrunner View Post
    I don't pay attention to basketball, but if you end up being correct on this, then why don't we just bring in a coach for $250k rather than the $500k+ we're currently tied to, and call it a day?

    Someone young and hungry who wants to win and move up, similar to the Napier and Hud hiring strategy? Marlin is starting to remind me of the Bustle era, just comfortable with this being the final gig for as long as possible.
    This is where the accountability factor will come in. I brought this topic up in "the conversation" about the basketball program a few episodes ago in RCA. The fact of the matter is that the coaches will have to perform now at a certain level regardless of what's going on with the roster. Even with injuries, this was a young team to begin with that was going to go through growing pains. Unfortunately now, the youth and health will be magnetized.

    In today's world of college athletics, coaches and programs are investments. For us, we are paying the most in The Sun Belt Conference for that investment. And that includes donors who give to RCAF and the programs. So, some of your contributions go to the coach's salary, which means a return on investment will always be expected, which also means how the team performs when competing. For us, 5th place in the conference is not a standard we should be ok with when paying this kind of money; and fans have a right to be frustrated with that. The higher the investment, the higher expected return. I would hope by now that the program is at a point to where a foundation is built to where finishing below 4th is difficult to do. But, it might look like we will be headed there for the second year in a row. I hope I'm dead wrong, but we shall see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Look there's issues with every player that left. Now maybe we never should have recruited them to begin with, but it is what it is. They're never going to tell us what the issues are but let's just say that they're all on the players, not how they were treated.

    Least we forget, we had a signed recruit tragically die. Julian should be a sophomore with lots of experience but we all know he blew out his knee the same class of the death I believe.

    Sometimes it's Bob's fault. This isn't one. Circumstances simply caught up to him.
    And the fact of the matter is, the smaller the roster, the more impact an injury or similar will have. Bigger rosters and more players in other sports allow you to absorb those better. Basketball is probably the hardest to recover from multiple guys going down. Not excusing anything, just pointing out the fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wcd35 View Post
    I wasnt very high on Wesley but at least he was a PG. Feels like all other options are either not true PG's or are still raw. I like Wilson a lot but you're right that he's going to have to develop quickly and there's no depth. Felt like there wasnt a real PG out there much of that first half. Just a lot of perimeter screens and handoffs then settling for a jumper or forcing it into the post.
    Where have you been for the last 10 years? That is Marlins half court offense unless someone like Elfrid, Bryce Washington or Marcus Stroman takes over a game.

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