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    And yet WKU & Middle both get games and players we'd want.


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    And yet WKU & Middle both get games and players we'd want.
    And somehow Marlins and Middle Tennessee coach have the same base salary we are getting a horrible ROI

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    I'll say it again... why would an athlete of that caliber come here? Outside of a hefty pay day, there is ZERO reason for a player with that amount of recognition to play at UL.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post
    And somehow Marlins and Middle Tennessee coach have the same base salary we are getting a horrible ROI
    Not sure who the coach is at MT. However I don't think he has coached a game yet. Kermit Davis left Middle Tennnessee for the Ole Miss job. We don't know how well his replacement will do yet

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    We would really have to hit lightning in a bottle with a couple of magical type seasons or just get some coach who is a master recruiter in here. Top 100 kids go to top programs. Period. Plus, those programs have large presences in the summer AAU leagues and tournaments and are able to establish relationships early and faster than we can IMO.
    Great points. We need a master recruiter. Some one that is in good standings with the 3 major AAU programs. Jeff Jones runs LA Elite Under Armour. Randy Livingston runs the Adidas team. Elfrid Payton's people run the Nike team. If you are not a big name coach at a big name school, you have to be able to relate to these kids. It seems like the only kids we get are the kids where we are the biggest offer. With the Tyreek kid, it was good to see our name on the list of 5. VCU was on that list as well, they have sold out their last 100 home games. Football went young and chose a coach that is in tune with the youth today. Lets watch and see some of the players Napier and Staff will get over the next five years.

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    P5 coaches have said they don't even bother recruiting a kid who's on an AAU team that has a different shoe sponsor from what the University has. Says a lot about state of college basketball.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    P5 coaches have said they don't even bother recruiting a kid who's on an AAU team that has a different shoe sponsor from what the University has. Says a lot about state of college basketball.
    Man, I'd really like to get more info on that one. You mean to tell me that coach isn't going to offer a Deandre Ayton or Marvin Bagley because of the shoe they wore while playing AAU? It's not like the player has a contract with the shoe company.

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    Did you totally miss the whole FBI investigation concerning this very matter??


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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    Man, I'd really like to get more info on that one. You mean to tell me that coach isn't going to offer a Deandre Ayton or Marvin Bagley because of the shoe they wore while playing AAU? It's not like the player has a contract with the shoe company.
    90 is exactly correct on this.
    And this further supports my opinion that collegiate basketball is dead..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    Did you totally miss the whole FBI investigation concerning this very matter??
    I must have. Enlighten me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    I must have. Enlighten me.
    Here is just one of hundreds of articles.....

    https://www.syracuse.com/orangebaske...asketball.html

    A simple google search will provide all the info you need but when the FBI says that AAU programs were used to steer high school athletes to colleges where they had shoe contracts I tend to believe them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    Here is just one of hundreds of articles.....

    https://www.syracuse.com/orangebaske...asketball.html

    A simple google search will provide all the info you need but when the FBI says that AAU programs were used to steer high school athletes to colleges where they had shoe contracts I tend to believe them.
    For years, nothing new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    Man, I'd really like to get more info on that one. You mean to tell me that coach isn't going to offer a Deandre Ayton or Marvin Bagley because of the shoe they wore while playing AAU? It's not like the player has a contract with the shoe company.
    Play Their Hearts Out: A Coach, His Star Recruit, and the Youth Basketball Machine by George Dohrmann
    Eye-opening and heartbreaking that adults would use kids like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    Here is just one of hundreds of articles.....

    https://www.syracuse.com/orangebaske...asketball.html

    A simple google search will provide all the info you need but when the FBI says that AAU programs were used to steer high school athletes to colleges where they had shoe contracts I tend to believe them.
    Very familiar with these. I thought you meant you had proof that P5 coaches will not recruit kids who's AAU club have different kicks their university. I don't doubt that this goes on and like you said its been proven but when kids of the caliber of those I mentioned come around, I don't think the university is worried about what shoes he wears in AAU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    Very familiar with these. I thought you meant you had proof that P5 coaches will not recruit kids who's AAU club have different kicks their university. I don't doubt that this goes on and like you said its been proven but when kids of the caliber of those I mentioned come around, I don't think the university is worried about what shoes he wears in AAU.
    The university isn't..... but the shoe company has invested heavily in the kids, and coaches know that if they are at an adidas school, nike will spend whatever it takes to protect their investment in nike AAU kids. And that adidas will do likewise to steer kids in adidas AAU programs to him.

    It's not so much they wont recruit them, it is more that they will choose to invest in recruiting kids who will be more inclined to sign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    The university isn't..... but the shoe company has invested heavily in the kids, and coaches know that if they are at an adidas school, nike will spend whatever it takes to protect their investment in nike AAU kids. And that adidas will do likewise to steer kids in adidas AAU programs to him.

    It's not so much they wont recruit them, it is more that they will choose to invest in recruiting kids who will be more inclined to sign.
    And you win the prize.... thanks for explaining better than I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    We would really have to hit lightning in a bottle with a couple of magical type seasons or just get some coach who is a master recruiter in here. Top 100 kids go to top programs. Period. Plus, those programs have large presences in the summer AAU leagues and tournaments and are able to establish relationships early and faster than we can IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    The university isn't..... but the shoe company has invested heavily in the kids, and coaches know that if they are at an adidas school, nike will spend whatever it takes to protect their investment in nike AAU kids. And that adidas will do likewise to steer kids in adidas AAU programs to him.

    It's not so much they wont recruit them, it is more that they will choose to invest in recruiting kids who will be more inclined to sign.
    And I can understand your last statement which makes more sense. I know that the coaches will recruit the top players and the top players will go to the top programs presumably for much more than what shoe label is involved. I think coaches, facility and national exposure will play a larger role in that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    And I can understand your last statement which makes more sense. I know that the coaches will recruit the top players and the top players will go to the top programs presumably for much more than what shoe label is involved. I think coaches, facility and national exposure will play a larger role in that.
    When mama is getting a five or six figure check from shoe manufacturer X you can bet she is going to be slapping jr. over the head and letting him know exactly which schools he will be entertaining for his services and it won't be schools that have contracts with shoe manufacturer Y.

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