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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    Thread ran its course and served its purpose big guy. Seems like you're the one that decided to bring the topic into this thread.
    Fair enough...as far as my comments regarding Bragga's post season accomplishments...here's my Robe defense per your request...you seem to be fine with Bragga making regional 3/14 years due to him being in a 1 bid league...Sun belt is usually 2 bid league and Robe has made it 12/24 years...who's more successful?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    Fair enough...as far as my comments regarding Bragga's post season accomplishments...here's my Robe defense per your request...you seem to be fine with Bragga making regional 3/14 years due to him being in a 1 bid league...Sun belt is usually 2 bid league and Robe has made it 12/24 years...who's more successful?
    It's not comparable. That's the point.

    Edit: Where did I say I was ok with it? I didn't say anything about it being a great hire. It's risky. All I said was your comparison was not valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    It's not comparable. That's the point.

    Edit: Where did I say I was ok with it? I didn't say anything about it being a great hire. It's risky. All I said was your comparison was not valid.
    Def thinks it's comparable...he had 6 overall losing seasons...7 conference losing seasons...point being...him being in a 1 bid league is not the reason he only had 3 appearances in 14 years...another point is that given time to turn things around...great things are still possible...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    Def thinks it's comparable...he had 6 overall losing seasons...7 conference losing seasons...point being...him being in a 1 bid league is not the reason he only had 3 appearances in 14 years...another point is that given time to turn things around...great things are still possible...
    Would Robe's results cut it if he was coaching in the SEC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    Would Robe's results cut it if he was coaching in the SEC?
    I would say yes....looking at just LSU since 1995...they've won 7 conference regular season titles... Robe has won 6...didn't even bother looking up Ole Miss, Kentucky, Georgia, etc. Bc I believe I know the answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    I would say yes....looking at just LSU since 1995...they've won 7 conference regular season titles... Robe has won 6...didn't even bother looking up Ole Miss, Kentucky, Georgia, etc. Bc I believe I know the answer
    We are talking postseason appearances. Quit changing the criteria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    We are talking postseason appearances. Quit changing the criteria.
    Well going to a conference with built in bias and advantages would change the criteria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    Well going to a conference with built in bias and advantages would change the criteria.
    Exactly my point. Ohio valley is not the sunbelt which is not the SEC. Comparing postseason appearances between any 2 of the 3 is useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    We are talking postseason appearances. Quit changing the criteria.
    Even still...I'll research later, can't right now...but I'd bet Robes 50% success rate is better than the bottom tier SEC schools...but again...pure assumption...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    Exactly my point. Ohio valley is not the sunbelt which is not the SEC. Comparing postseason appearances between any 2 of the 3 is useless.
    But the SBC has been a one bid league..the SEC has never. Much closer comparison

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    Even still...I'll research later, can't right now...but I'd bet Robes 50% success rate is better than the bottom tier SEC schools...but again...pure assumption...
    Last decade, SEC has had no less than 7 bids. That would mean bottom half of the conference half the time.

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    Default Re: Matt Bragga (Tenn Tech Head Coach) accepts head coaching position at Rice (Baseball)

    What are they gonna pay him, just curious


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    Last decade, SEC has had no less than 7 bids. That would mean bottom half of the conference half the time.
    Long story short...tried a few quick searches to provide sites showing regional bids for individual conferences on year-by-year case...can't find any and not about to look up individual results for Ohio valley/sun belt/sec schools...only true comparison: Robe has been best coach in his conference going on quarter of a century and put up best results in his conference...so I'd believe any school would want a coach who was the best against his peers

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    Default Re: Matt Bragga (Tenn Tech Head Coach) accepts head coaching position at Rice (Baseball)

    Quote Originally Posted by USLJim View Post
    What are they gonna pay him, just curious
    Private schools generally do not release that information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    Long story short...tried a few quick searches to provide sites showing regional bids for individual conferences on year-by-year case...can't find any and not about to look up individual results for Ohio valley/sun belt/sec schools...only true comparison: Robe has been best coach in his conference going on quarter of a century and put up best results in his conference...so I'd believe any school would want a coach who was the best against his peers
    As much as is pains to say it, but Kittrell from USA was a better coach in the Sun Belt.

    28 seasons at USA:
    10 regular season titles
    8 tournament titles
    18 regional appearances
    1,052 wins in those 28 seasons

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxLouisiana View Post
    As much as is pains to say it, but Kittrell from USA was a better coach in the Sun Belt.

    28 seasons at USA:
    10 regular season titles
    8 tournament titles
    18 regional appearances
    1,052 wins in those 28 seasons
    Damnit 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    Damnit 😂
    Maybe this is the first step in realizing that he's not the best coach on the planet. He is a great coach. He by no means has achieved success worthy of a contract for life. This is not a call for firing. Just a call for an accurate level of expectation and accountability for a coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    Maybe this is the first step in realizing that he's not the best coach on the planet. He is a great coach. He by no means has achieved success worthy of a contract for life. This is not a call for firing. Just a call for an accurate level of expectation and accountability for a coach.
    Definitely never thought he's the best on planet...but the grass ain't always greener on the other side especially since we're not a program in total disrepair ...that should also be acknowledged...

    Side note: not saying this to argumentative...but check out the Daily Advertiser today and the article on back page about Temple football...about their top 2 running backs and having children...and what the their coaching staff does to make them (and others on team) better men...also check out the video floating around by Coach's Napier regarding Father's Day...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    Definitely never thought he's the best on planet...but the grass ain't always greener on the other side especially since we're not a program in total disrepair ...that should also be acknowledged...

    Side note: not saying this to argumentative...but check out the Daily Advertiser today and the article on back page about Temple football...about their top 2 running backs and having children...and what the their coaching staff does to make them (and others on team) better men...also check out the video floating around by Coach's Napier regarding Father's Day...
    Was the grass greener on the other side after Lotief? Things are looking up for that program with the job Glasco did this past season.

    We may not be in total disrepair, but things aren't looking bright. Definitely have some concerns for 2019 and others have shared that in discussions with me over the last few weeks. The lack of movement on JT is causing concern among those fans too.

    Disclaimer: this is not a call to replace our current head baseball coach. But it is to counter the point that the grass isn't always greener when replacing a successful coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxLouisiana View Post
    Was the grass greener on the other side after Lotief? Things are looking up for that program with the job Glasco did this past season.

    We may not be in total disrepair, but things aren't looking bright. Definitely have some concerns for 2019 and others have shared that in discussions with me over the last few weeks. The lack of movement on JT is causing concern among those fans too.

    Disclaimer: this is not a call to replace our current head baseball coach. But it is to counter the point that the grass isn't always greener when replacing a successful coach.
    Fair point...however....and before reading the next sentence, I don't think he should be retained...but JT was supposed to be the next best thing when we hired him...same results are possible with a HC hire...also, I hate to say this...but just look to the East and their football program...in process of taking major steps back from what they perceived as mediocrity...guess we could exchange success/failure stories for awhile...def think there is cause for attention to cause of bad spell...just firmly believe Robe is STILL just as capable as turning around than any next guy in line...

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