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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    Some people are ok with the status quo as long as they have their close parking spot and tailgate social hour.
    This is not true. First there is no status quo. You are either moving forward or backward. All people (even so called "no you place" fans) want the university to thrive and max out its potential. What gets people at odds are comments like "at this point in our program we should not have down years" or we need to "hold these coaches accountable". Really? We are in a low level conference, in a very poor state with a university that has zero cache outside of a 20 Parish area. What we have built here to this point is pretty impressive and a testament to the administration and its loyal fans. Look at our facilities minus the football stadium. Pretty spectacular if you ask me.
    If UL was a person they would be a guy with a big upper body(facilities) with some pencils for legs(budget/conference). Basically we have no foundation to be consistently successful.
    Everyone here has an idea on how to raise funds but the truth is we are close to maxed out in this conference or CUSA. Can we spend our way into the AAC or a regional conference with the likes of Houston, Memphis and Tulane? I doubt it, I think most people will be "show me first". Tieing it back to this topic, building a new stadium will generate temporary interest, but it is just putting on more upper body mass. It will not move the needle appreciably in getting us out of the SBC. What we really need is what programs like Houston and others have...corporate donors to drive our budget upwards. Unfortunately, large Louisiana Corporaitions are few and far between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Dude.. you are on thin ice.
    WAAAY too close to Faceless Buffoon status..
    Another outburst like that, and you might get added to the mailing list!
    They can add me to the list! Not going to keep the status quo going any more. It's time to change the way things are around the baseball program. If we want to get back to the Omaha for the first time in nearly 2 decades, ____ needs to be shaken up.

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    PS- good to have you posting again BOP. It's been too long.


    Actually, no.

    And, I'm not sure whether to take that as a compliment or not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxLouisiana View Post
    They can add me to the list! Not going to keep the status quo going any more. It's time to change the way things are around the baseball program. If we want to get back to the Omaha for the first time in nearly 2 decades, ____ needs to be shaken up.
    Your T-Shirt is in the mail...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxLouisiana View Post
    So you are saying it's a different coach that gets into these down years and a different coach that turns things around? Looks like the same man in the dugout to me during all of those seasons.
    Depends on what you're reviewing. The head coach and pitching coach, yes. The hitting coach and primary recruiter, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    I know dozens of people that do not post but read this board. "Our group" is bigger than you think.
    I do too. Some of them don't post because there opinion of some who participate here is not the highest. They don't want to get into arguments with folks they don't relate to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetryCajun View Post
    This is not true. First there is no status quo. You are either moving forward or backward. All people (even so called "no you place" fans) want the university to thrive and max out its potential. What gets people at odds are comments like "at this point in our program we should not have down years" or we need to "hold these coaches accountable". Really? We are in a low level conference, in a very poor state with a university that has zero cache outside of a 20 Parish area. What we have built here to this point is pretty impressive and a testament to the administration and its loyal fans. Look at our facilities minus the football stadium. Pretty spectacular if you ask me.
    If UL was a person they would be a guy with a big upper body(facilities) with some pencils for legs(budget/conference). Basically we have no foundation to be consistently successful.
    Everyone here has an idea on how to raise funds but the truth is we are close to maxed out in this conference or CUSA. Can we spend our way into the AAC or a regional conference with the likes of Houston, Memphis and Tulane? I doubt it, I think most people will be "show me first". Tieing it back to this topic, building a new stadium will generate temporary interest, but it is just putting on more upper body mass. It will not move the needle appreciably in getting us out of the SBC. What we really need is what programs like Houston and others have...corporate donors to drive our budget upwards. Unfortunately, large Louisiana Corporaitions are few and far between.
    This is something the previous AD would say. Heck, he said it in his press conference when he resigned. "It's not about what you have, but what you DO with what you have that counts. I just wish people would've known what we didn't have, so they can see how much we have done." No, that was an excuse for settling. Look at softball. Look at the sustained success that program has had in the past 30 years. Every. Single. Year. In baseball, we built a $18 million palace with one of the most loyal and boisterous fan bases in all of college baseball. You mean to tell me we can't sustain success in those areas? Come on, now.

    If you win consistently, dominate your conference in whatever sport it may be; you can set yourself up for sustained success. Boise State has done it, Gonzaga does it, Butler does it, Cal State Fullerton does it, so why can't we? This is the exact problem that I've been talking about. CAN'T CAN'T CAN'T........ We need to stop with this attitude and at least TRY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    I do too. Some of them don't post because there opinion of some who participate here is not the highest. They don't want to get into arguments with folks they don't relate to.
    I find that most people who talk down to those on RP either can't stand debating, don't have the knowledge or just enjoy calling ppl willing to discuss Cajun sports "idiots".

    I have no use for people that can't share their ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    This is something the previous AD would say. Heck, he said it in his press conference when he resigned. "It's not about what you have, but what you DO with what you have that counts. I just wish people would've known what we didn't have, so they can see how much we have done." No, that was an excuse for settling. Look at softball. Look at the sustained success that program has had in the past 30 years. Every. Single. Year. In baseball, we built a $18 million palace with one of the most loyal and boisterous fan bases in all of college baseball. You mean to tell me we can't sustain success in those areas? Come on, now.

    If you win consistently, dominate your conference in whatever sport it may be; you can set yourself up for sustained success. Boise State has done it, Gonzaga does it, Butler does it, Cal State Fullerton does it, so why can't we? This is the exact problem that I've been talking about. CAN'T CAN'T CAN'T........ We need to stop with this attitude and at least TRY.
    Can't say that. Know your place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    I find that most people who talk down to those on RP either can't stand debating, don't have the knowledge or just enjoy calling ppl willing to discuss Cajun sports "idiots".

    I have no use for people that can't share their ideas.
    There are some people who fit that description while others are nothing like that. They make their opinions known in other ways, often directly to coaches and administrators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    This is something the previous AD would say. Heck, he said it in his press conference when he resigned. "It's not about what you have, but what you DO with what you have that counts. I just wish people would've known what we didn't have, so they can see how much we have done." No, that was an excuse for settling. Look at softball. Look at the sustained success that program has had in the past 30 years. Every. Single. Year. In baseball, we built a $18 million palace with one of the most loyal and boisterous fan bases in all of college baseball. You mean to tell me we can't sustain success in those areas? Come on, now.

    If you win consistently, dominate your conference in whatever sport it may be; you can set yourself up for sustained success. Boise State has done it, Gonzaga does it, Butler does it, Cal State Fullerton does it, so why can't we? This is the exact problem that I've been talking about. CAN'T CAN'T CAN'T........ We need to stop with this attitude and at least TRY.
    To be fair, I don't think any of those schools have done it in sports across the board. They have had continued success in one or two sports, but not across the board. I agree that if you're going to spend the money to fund a sport you should do so with the expectation to be competitive and not look at it as a throw-in just to say you have it.

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    Again......status quo

    "Well, we don't have the resources other schools have, so let's just enjoy the ride. Have a beer and do the Cajun two-step while you're at it."

    That's was the mindset of our former University President, and it set our athletic department back 30 years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    There are some people who fit that description while others are nothing like that. They make their opinions known in other ways, often directly to coaches and administrators.
    Why not do both? The healthier the discussions here, the better for everyone. It's my approach anyway..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    Again......status quo

    "Well, we don't have the resources other schools have, so let's just enjoy the ride. Have a beer and do the Cajun two-step while you're at it."

    That's was the mindset of our former University President, and it set out athletic department back 30 years.
    Excuse me.. it's the ROOSTA, pal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunAmos View Post
    To be fair, I don't think any of those schools have done it in sports across the board. They have had continued success in one or two sports, but not across the board. I agree that if you're going to spend the money to fund a sport you should do so with the expectation to be competitive and not look at it as a throw-in just to say you have it.
    Fair enough, but the root of my argument is getting to the point of changing the way that we think around here. Yes, we are in a poo poo conference. Yes, we live in an impoverished state. But are we just going to throw our hands up and say, "Well, because of the factors in front of us; it was worth a try. We might we well just settle for what we have and roll with that." Absolutely not. There's people that I know who think the current administration is crazy for trying to get us into a bigger conference. For what? I would rather TRY and fall flat on our face and fail than to not try at all.

    You gotta start somewhere by TRYING.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    Fair enough, but the root of my argument is getting to the point of changing the way that we think around here. Yes, we are in a poo poo conference. Yes, we live in an impoverished state. But are we just going to throw our hands up and say, "Well, because of the factors in front of us; it was worth a try. We might we well just settle for what we have and roll with that." Absolutely not. There's people that I know who think the current administration is crazy for trying to get us into a bigger conference. For what? I would rather TRY and fall flat on our face and fail than to not try at all.

    You gotta start somewhere by TRYING.
    Losers make excuses.
    Leaders make things happen.

    Maggard is just getting warmed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Losers make excuses.
    Leaders make things happen.

    Maggard is just getting warmed up.
    Bingo

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    Fair enough, but the root of my argument is getting to the point of changing the way that we think around here. Yes, we are in a poo poo conference. Yes, we live in an impoverished state. But are we just going to throw our hands up and say, "Well, because of the factors in front of us; it was worth a try. We might we well just settle for what we have and roll with that." Absolutely not. There's people that I know who think the current administration is crazy for trying to get us into a bigger conference. For what? I would rather TRY and fall flat on our face and fail than to not try at all.

    You gotta start somewhere by TRYING.
    I don't think anyone disagrees with that. Improving conference situation is a Very challenging goal in today's environment. Dr. Maggard told me himself a few months ago he does not see further conference changes anytime soon. However you must do your best to be in the best possible position when the opportunity does occur. Another example of challenging goal is a season ticket target of 14000. That will be extremely difficult to achieve in this economy. I applaud the setting of a stretch goal and won't fault them if they fall a little short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Losers make excuses.
    Leaders make things happen.

    Maggard is just getting warmed up.
    Shoot for the stars land in the clouds ... If we shoot for the Big 12 and land in the AAC who would be upset about that.

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    New football coach with top 5 salary pool in g5
    New softball coach with huge bump in salary
    17 million baseball stadium
    Meeting to renovate/rebuild football stadium
    All in year 4 of oilfield being down...sounds like we are trying, of course nothing ever happens fast enough for the people who are watching and not actually doing anything.


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