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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    The half empty one this past weekend because the team was that difficult to watch? Yea, I have the uber receipts from midnight Wednesday, 2:30am Thursday and midnight Friday.

    Look I don't think some of you are understanding that down years and bad baseball are two different things. This year we were bad at baseball. That is never acceptable. We gave games away. We disappeared for 7,8,9 innings at a time. We let sunbelt middle relief no-hit us for prolonged stretches. Not just once, a lot. G5 down years happen. The bad baseball part is what makes you different from app st.
    I'm not arguing this was a down year for Cajun baseball but some perspective...... We were 9 games above .500. We went 9-11 vs. RPI top 50 teams. We were in discussions for an at large until the end but here you are saying a coach with a 23 year track record should not feel safe.

    Would love to know who is on your short list for a replacement. Maybe the Texas State coach? I mean based on your prior post he is better than Robe right? After all they had the second best BA after Coastal??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    ... We were 9 games above .500. We went 9-11 vs. RPI top 50 teams. We were in discussions for an at large until the end ...
    I still don't know how Robichaux got this team as far as he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    I'm not arguing this was a down year for Cajun baseball but some perspective...... We were 9 games above .500. We went 9-11 vs. RPI top 50 teams. We were in discussions for an at large until the end but here you are saying a coach with a 23 year track record should not feel safe.

    Would love to know who is on your short list for a replacement. Maybe the Texas State coach? I mean based on your prior post he is better than Robe right? After all they had the second best BA after Coastal??
    Well, considering I've stated a handful of times already that I'm not calling for him to be fired, it would be stupid to have a shortlist. What would have to happen for you to hold Tony's feet to the fire instead of blindly defending his every move?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    What exactly do you people mean when you say "programs like ours"? You mean, programs in the most talent rich area in America? Programs in the south, where baseball is still the most popular youth sport and still second most popular sport to football? Maybe you mean G5, which I'm pretty sure coastal Carolina barely qualifies for, yet they are 2 years removed from a National Championship and are hosting again this year...
    One of the top 5 CC recruiting comments, " You do realize we're about 15 minutes from the beach, right?".

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    Well, considering I've stated a handful of times already that I'm not calling for him to be fired, it would be stupid to have a shortlist. What would have to happen for you to hold Tony's feet to the fire instead of blindly defending his every move?
    So..what if we miss regionals again next season?...how hot is the fire then?...what's your suggestive move then?...if it's fire him...you better have a list ready NOW...if its not to fire him...what are we all arguing about in the now?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    So..what if we miss regionals again next season?...how hot is the fire then?...what's your suggestive move then?...if it's fire him...you better have a list ready NOW...if its not to fire him...what are we all arguing about in the now?...
    Why should cajunrage have the list ready? That's Maggard's job. And as we've seen with Napier and Glasco, he can go out and find coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    Well, considering I've stated a handful of times already that I'm not calling for him to be fired, it would be stupid to have a shortlist.
    You stated in your prior post.... "Very concerning and no one should feel like their job is safe." I assumed you mean't him being fired... were you talking about getting run over by a bus or something??

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    What would have to happen for you to hold Tony's feet to the fire instead of blindly defending his every move?
    I'm guessing it would take me and a dozen other MEN to hold Tony's feet to any fire. From what I know about him he is a pretty tough SOB.

    I'm also not blind and I absolutely haven't defended "his every move". Show me where I came close to doing that.

    What I have done is to take you to task on your "life coach" comment and you keep changing the narrative because you can't defend your original post. You can't take this season or even last season and deplore his coaching techniques but ignore the prior 21 years and the success that has been had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxLouisiana View Post
    Why should cajunrage have the list ready? That's Maggard's job. And as we've seen with Napier and Glasco, he can go out and find coaches.
    This

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetryCajun View Post
    I do agree with most of what you say, I just don't think we should be contending for Super Regionals every year. We rarely if ever get top20 recruiting classes, why should we be one of the top16 teams most years? Let's see how well we recruit over the next few years. If we can get players on par with the mid tier SEC teams, then I will completely agree with your assessment.
    I'm not saying we should be in a Super every year. I'm saying we should reasonably expect to contend for a championship every year, whether for a league, regional or Super. All things considered, 'down years' should be few and far between. "Just came up short" years are going to happen, that's baseball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunProud View Post
    Life lessons or not, this is my personal belief from a baseball fan perspective only.

    My biggest issue with Tony has been the lack of consistency. It seems that after we have a very successful season, we tend to take a step or two backwards, see the 2001 season as well as the 2011 and 2012 seasons and the last 3 years. This program had success before Tony. We are in a talent rich state. We have one of the best fan bases in America (see attendance number over the last decade or so). We have a palace to play in. I understand that we don't attract SEC type caliber players every year, but we should be able to attract talent just below that level, and then develop the talent. There is absolutely zero excuse for UL not to be in post season 4 out of every 5 years, period.
    Wasn't 2001 the year we lost about 9 productive players from 2000 including a number of juniors. I think the drop-offs have typically been when we lose the expected seniors but also a number of draft eligible juniors. It's especially painful with pitchers and you can't usually expect freshmen pitchers to come in and be weekend starters right away unless you find lightning in a bottle (Gunner Leger/Evan Guillory/Wyatt Marks/Dylan Moore).

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxLouisiana View Post
    Why should cajunrage have the list ready? That's Maggard's job. And as we've seen with Napier and Glasco, he can go out and find coaches.
    You know what...you're absolutely right...therefore...it's not cajunrage's job to determine when the fire starts getting hot...Maggard has proven himself to all of us and we should trust the process and his leadership when it comes to our athletic programs...end of discussion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunAmos View Post
    Wasn't 2001 the year we lost about 9 productive players from 2000 including a number of juniors. I think the drop-offs have typically been when we lose the expected seniors but also a number of draft eligible juniors. It's especially painful with pitchers and you can't usually expect freshmen pitchers to come in and be weekend starters right away unless you find lightning in a bottle (Gunner Leger/Evan Guillory/Wyatt Marks/Dylan Moore).
    You are correct, but we had come off of a super regional in 1999 and then the CWS in 2000. We should have planned accordingly with regard to recruiting prior to and through the 1999 season so that we wouldn't have the situation that arose in 2001 where we didn't even make the conference tournament.

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    First, Robe is both a baseball coach and a life coach. And he always has been. It didn't stop him from fielding the #1 ranked team in the country in 14. And it's not the reason behind the struggles of late. That's just silly.

    That doesn't mean that he shouldn't be held accountable for his program's performance, or that of his assistant coaches. He should, and I believe Maggard will. Just that head coach and life coach are not mutually exclusive concepts. And the world would be much better off if more coaches took that aspect of their jobs more seriously. It is, in both the kid's and our long term interest.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    You know what...you're absolutely right...therefore...it's not cajunrage's job to determine when the fire starts getting hot...Maggard has proven himself to all of us and we should trust the process and his leadership when it comes to our athletic programs...end of discussion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    First, Robe is both a baseball coach and a life coach. And he always has been. It didn't stop him from fielding the #1 ranked team in the country in 14. And it's not the reason behind the struggles of late. That's just silly.

    That doesn't mean that he shouldn't be held accountable for his program's performance, or that of his assistant coaches. He should, and I believe Maggard will. Just that head coach and life coach are not mutually exclusive concepts. And the world would be much better off if more coaches took that aspect of their jobs more seriously. It is, in both the kid's and our long term interest.
    I would tend to agree with this sentiment.

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    Continuing with my "it's the players stupid" stance.....just wondering who we lost by players not getting offered here, choosing a better school (sec), getting more offered by another, getting drafted, getting out recruited, injuries? The what if and how close to what could have been......anybody got names or stories???


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    Continuing with my "it's the players stupid" stance.....just wondering who we lost by players not getting offered here, choosing a better school (sec), getting more offered by another, getting drafted, getting out recruited, injuries? The what if and how close to what could have been......anybody got names or stories???
    Boomer if anyone ever ask your profession just tell them you are a professional derailer.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    First, Robe is both a baseball coach and a life coach. And he always has been. It didn't stop him from fielding the #1 ranked team in the country in 14. And it's not the reason behind the struggles of late. That's just silly.

    That doesn't mean that he shouldn't be held accountable for his program's performance, or that of his assistant coaches. He should, and I believe Maggard will. Just that head coach and life coach are not mutually exclusive concepts. And the world would be much better off if more coaches took that aspect of their jobs more seriously. It is, in both the kid's and our long term interest.
    And I don't think the ballpark is gonna hold that one..... nail meet hammer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    First, Robe is both a baseball coach and a life coach. And he always has been. It didn't stop him from fielding the #1 ranked team in the country in 14. And it's not the reason behind the struggles of late. That's just silly.

    That doesn't mean that he shouldn't be held accountable for his program's performance, or that of his assistant coaches. He should, and I believe Maggard will. Just that head coach and life coach are not mutually exclusive concepts. And the world would be much better off if more coaches took that aspect of their jobs more seriously. It is, in both the kid's and our long term interest.
    Being a baseball coach should include being a life coach. Being a life coach does not necessarily include being a baseball coach. Tony is paid to be a baseball coach. Don't let 90 and jeaux muddy the conversation. I'm not saying recruit thugs. I'm not saying throw life lessons out the door. I'm saying fix the glaring issue that resulted in bad baseball the last 2 years and have expectations. It was stated earlier, status quo is never acceptable. If you aren't improving, you are regressing because other good programs are either passing you up or leaving you completely behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    Being a baseball coach should include being a life coach. Being a life coach does not necessarily include being a baseball coach. Tony is paid to be a baseball coach. Don't let 90 and jeaux muddy the conversation. I'm not saying recruit thugs. I'm not saying throw life lessons out the door. I'm saying fix the glaring issue that resulted in bad baseball the last 2 years and have expectations. It was stated earlier, status quo is never acceptable. If you aren't improving, you are regressing because other good programs are either passing you up or leaving you completely behind.
    Muddy the conversation?...just remember this...if it was up to the vocal fanbase...the years of 2013,2014,2015, 2016 that you are foaming at the mouth to return to would've never happened here at UL...this same conversation was taking place on this same site post 2012 season...

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