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    Life lessons or not, this is my personal belief from a baseball fan perspective only.

    My biggest issue with Tony has been the lack of consistency. It seems that after we have a very successful season, we tend to take a step or two backwards, see the 2001 season as well as the 2011 and 2012 seasons and the last 3 years. This program had success before Tony. We are in a talent rich state. We have one of the best fan bases in America (see attendance number over the last decade or so). We have a palace to play in. I understand that we don't attract SEC type caliber players every year, but we should be able to attract talent just below that level, and then develop the talent. There is absolutely zero excuse for UL not to be in post season 4 out of every 5 years, period.
    Wasn't 2001 the year we lost about 9 productive players from 2000 including a number of juniors. I think the drop-offs have typically been when we lose the expected seniors but also a number of draft eligible juniors. It's especially painful with pitchers and you can't usually expect freshmen pitchers to come in and be weekend starters right away unless you find lightning in a bottle (Gunner Leger/Evan Guillory/Wyatt Marks/Dylan Moore).

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    Why should cajunrage have the list ready? That's Maggard's job. And as we've seen with Napier and Glasco, he can go out and find coaches.
    You know what...you're absolutely right...therefore...it's not cajunrage's job to determine when the fire starts getting hot...Maggard has proven himself to all of us and we should trust the process and his leadership when it comes to our athletic programs...end of discussion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunAmos View Post
    Wasn't 2001 the year we lost about 9 productive players from 2000 including a number of juniors. I think the drop-offs have typically been when we lose the expected seniors but also a number of draft eligible juniors. It's especially painful with pitchers and you can't usually expect freshmen pitchers to come in and be weekend starters right away unless you find lightning in a bottle (Gunner Leger/Evan Guillory/Wyatt Marks/Dylan Moore).
    You are correct, but we had come off of a super regional in 1999 and then the CWS in 2000. We should have planned accordingly with regard to recruiting prior to and through the 1999 season so that we wouldn't have the situation that arose in 2001 where we didn't even make the conference tournament.

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    First, Robe is both a baseball coach and a life coach. And he always has been. It didn't stop him from fielding the #1 ranked team in the country in 14. And it's not the reason behind the struggles of late. That's just silly.

    That doesn't mean that he shouldn't be held accountable for his program's performance, or that of his assistant coaches. He should, and I believe Maggard will. Just that head coach and life coach are not mutually exclusive concepts. And the world would be much better off if more coaches took that aspect of their jobs more seriously. It is, in both the kid's and our long term interest.


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    You know what...you're absolutely right...therefore...it's not cajunrage's job to determine when the fire starts getting hot...Maggard has proven himself to all of us and we should trust the process and his leadership when it comes to our athletic programs...end of discussion...
    Shut down the site Turb....

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    First, Robe is both a baseball coach and a life coach. And he always has been. It didn't stop him from fielding the #1 ranked team in the country in 14. And it's not the reason behind the struggles of late. That's just silly.

    That doesn't mean that he shouldn't be held accountable for his program's performance, or that of his assistant coaches. He should, and I believe Maggard will. Just that head coach and life coach are not mutually exclusive concepts. And the world would be much better off if more coaches took that aspect of their jobs more seriously. It is, in both the kid's and our long term interest.
    I would tend to agree with this sentiment.

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    Continuing with my "it's the players stupid" stance.....just wondering who we lost by players not getting offered here, choosing a better school (sec), getting more offered by another, getting drafted, getting out recruited, injuries? The what if and how close to what could have been......anybody got names or stories???


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    Continuing with my "it's the players stupid" stance.....just wondering who we lost by players not getting offered here, choosing a better school (sec), getting more offered by another, getting drafted, getting out recruited, injuries? The what if and how close to what could have been......anybody got names or stories???
    Boomer if anyone ever ask your profession just tell them you are a professional derailer.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    First, Robe is both a baseball coach and a life coach. And he always has been. It didn't stop him from fielding the #1 ranked team in the country in 14. And it's not the reason behind the struggles of late. That's just silly.

    That doesn't mean that he shouldn't be held accountable for his program's performance, or that of his assistant coaches. He should, and I believe Maggard will. Just that head coach and life coach are not mutually exclusive concepts. And the world would be much better off if more coaches took that aspect of their jobs more seriously. It is, in both the kid's and our long term interest.
    And I don't think the ballpark is gonna hold that one..... nail meet hammer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    First, Robe is both a baseball coach and a life coach. And he always has been. It didn't stop him from fielding the #1 ranked team in the country in 14. And it's not the reason behind the struggles of late. That's just silly.

    That doesn't mean that he shouldn't be held accountable for his program's performance, or that of his assistant coaches. He should, and I believe Maggard will. Just that head coach and life coach are not mutually exclusive concepts. And the world would be much better off if more coaches took that aspect of their jobs more seriously. It is, in both the kid's and our long term interest.
    Being a baseball coach should include being a life coach. Being a life coach does not necessarily include being a baseball coach. Tony is paid to be a baseball coach. Don't let 90 and jeaux muddy the conversation. I'm not saying recruit thugs. I'm not saying throw life lessons out the door. I'm saying fix the glaring issue that resulted in bad baseball the last 2 years and have expectations. It was stated earlier, status quo is never acceptable. If you aren't improving, you are regressing because other good programs are either passing you up or leaving you completely behind.

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    Being a baseball coach should include being a life coach. Being a life coach does not necessarily include being a baseball coach. Tony is paid to be a baseball coach. Don't let 90 and jeaux muddy the conversation. I'm not saying recruit thugs. I'm not saying throw life lessons out the door. I'm saying fix the glaring issue that resulted in bad baseball the last 2 years and have expectations. It was stated earlier, status quo is never acceptable. If you aren't improving, you are regressing because other good programs are either passing you up or leaving you completely behind.
    Muddy the conversation?...just remember this...if it was up to the vocal fanbase...the years of 2013,2014,2015, 2016 that you are foaming at the mouth to return to would've never happened here at UL...this same conversation was taking place on this same site post 2012 season...

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    Muddy the conversation?...just remember this...if it was up to the vocal fanbase...the years of 2013,2014,2015, 2016 that you are foaming at the mouth to return to would've never happened here at UL...this same conversation was taking place on this same site post 2012 season...
    Because Tony is the only coach on the planet that could have done that right? When you say things like that, you show how you really feel. What happens when he retires? Shut down the program?

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    I have asked this question a long time ago, but I would like to hear everyone's current response. What is your long term expectations for the Baseball Program. Once this is known, it will determine if you believe the program's coach is on a hot seat. I personally don't believe the seat is hot now, but 2 more years of play like this and it will be scorching hot.

    3 out of every five years as the Conference Champ (Division, Overall, or Tourney)
    3 out of every five years in Regional Play.
    1 out of every five years in Super Regional Play.
    1 out of every ten years in CWS Play.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    Because Tony is the only coach on the planet that could have done that right? When you say things like that, you show how you really feel. What happens when he retires? Shut down the program?
    Of course he's not the only one who can do it...but we have someone who has proven he CAN do it....you think it's that easy to just pluck a replacement and give us his results or >?...everyone was sporting wood and poking eyes out when Deggs left and we got the next best thing: his student...and it's not working out...exactly like purple and ____ football...got tired of Miles and they're now seeing it's not as easy as just throwing money at someone and get the same results or > will appear...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    Muddy the conversation?...just remember this...if it was up to the vocal fanbase...the years of 2013,2014,2015, 2016 that you are foaming at the mouth to return to would've never happened here at UL...this same conversation was taking place on this same site post 2012 season...
    We might have won a CWS or pulled a st. Peters that question can never be answered

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    One of the top 5 CC recruiting comments, " You do realize we're about 15 minutes from the beach, right?".
    Rutherford Beach Y'all!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    Continuing with my "it's the players stupid" stance.....just wondering who we lost by players not getting offered here, choosing a better school (sec), getting more offered by another, getting drafted, getting out recruited, injuries? The what if and how close to what could have been......anybody got names or stories???
    Again Boomer, none of that matters. The only thing that matters is who we actually put on the field. It matters not one bit why someone isn't on the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunProud View Post
    You are correct, but we had come off of a super regional in 1999 and then the CWS in 2000. We should have planned accordingly with regard to recruiting prior to and through the 1999 season so that we wouldn't have the situation that arose in 2001 where we didn't even make the conference tournament.
    When you have a bunch of juniors, you're playing a waiting game on who stays/goes. You can't necessarily promise some of your 11.7 scholarships without knowing that it will be available. I guess you could go to your juniors and say I need an answer by XXXX date or you lose your scholarship, but I don't know if that's the smartest thing to do either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post
    We might have won a CWS or pulled a st. Peters that question can never be answered
    Without scheduling one bad team last year I'm pretty sure we make the tournament last year. Are we having this conversation now?

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    Without scheduling one bad team last year I'm pretty sure we make the tournament last year. Are we having this conversation now?
    I feel like I found 2 pennies in my pocket, 'Somewhere In Time."

    Thanks for bringing me back to reality.

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