_ _ _ _
Page 8 of 25 FirstFirst ... 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 18 ... LastLast
Results 141 to 160 of 484

Thread: Baseball Coach or Life Coach

  1. #141
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Lafayette, LA
    Posts
    2,732

    Default Re: Baseball Coach or Life Coach

    Quote Originally Posted by MetryCajun View Post
    Two different arguments. No one here advocates the status quo. Other than Talbot's family, everyone wants him to be fired. A new coach has to happen and if he is retained, Robe needs to state why and handle the justified criticism.
    As for continuing to build off success, that is the goal but it is almost never achieved. Programs like ours are not able to just reload, because we are not getting the sure fire talent. We do get some very good players, but we are not consistently attracting the talent of an SEC or ACC team. I am not happy with how this year played out, but I will be curious to see how the current players improve. That has alway been the key to our success.
    Attached Images Attached Images  

  2. #142
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Metairie,LA
    Posts
    3,911

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    What exactly do you people mean when you say "programs like ours"? You mean, programs in the most talent rich area in America? Programs in the south, where baseball is still the most popular youth sport and still second most popular sport to football? Maybe you mean G5, which I'm pretty sure coastal Carolina barely qualifies for, yet they are 2 years removed from a National Championship and are hosting again this year...
    I mean G5 schools. None of them are perennial powerhouses. They all have down years. Heck, look how mediocre Georgia and Alabama are. Even they can't contend every year. Let's see how this plays out. I think we just need to find a couple of diference makers and we are right back to where we all want to be. I just don't buy the notion that we are some special program that can easily reload every year. Even the powerhouse programs have bad stretches.

  3. #143
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Lafayette
    Posts
    3,056

    Default Re: Baseball Coach or Life Coach

    Life lessons or not, this is my personal belief from a baseball fan perspective only.

    My biggest issue with Tony has been the lack of consistency. It seems that after we have a very successful season, we tend to take a step or two backwards, see the 2001 season as well as the 2011 and 2012 seasons and the last 3 years. This program had success before Tony. We are in a talent rich state. We have one of the best fan bases in America (see attendance number over the last decade or so). We have a palace to play in. I understand that we don't attract SEC type caliber players every year, but we should be able to attract talent just below that level, and then develop the talent. There is absolutely zero excuse for UL not to be in post season 4 out of every 5 years, period.


  4. #144
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Paradise
    Posts
    16,008

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by MetryCajun View Post
    I mean G5 schools. None of them are perennial powerhouses. They all have down years. Heck, look how mediocre Georgia and Alabama are. Even they can't contend every year. Let's see how this plays out. I think we just need to find a couple of diference makers and we are right back to where we all want to be. I just don't buy the notion that we are some special program that can easily reload every year. Even the powerhouse programs have bad stretches.
    Well the truth is, like Coastal, we are a unique program. Culture, attendance, geography. All ideal. We play in a conference that is good enough to not hurt your RPI, but allows teams to get on runs in the middle of the season. I'm willing to give the new ballpark some time to actually bare fruit, but regardless, we play in a top flight ball park in America. We have an excellent reputation in college baseball, on the field and off he field. Our fans travel and do a very good job of it. We are the top supported baseball program in America (not named LSU, Florida, or Texas) from a media standpoint. I could go on..

    Are we going to come up short from time to time? Everyone does. Should we not expect to be a contender for league, regional and super regional championships every year? Based on everything above, you bet your ___ we should.

  5. #145
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    695

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    Me wanted him gone if things don't change is much more reasonable than you saying he should be retained without knowing the future. This program is trending in the wrong direction and has all but completely failed to capitalize on the 2014 success. My point in bringing up the life lessons coaching style is what I believe is taking priority over executing on the field. Therefore, it is very relevant.
    Just curious...Weren't you the poster who threw all your support to baseball when the Hud/ Trump mess went down?...something like you only wanted to support programs that were ran clean???....apologize in advance if I have you mistaken...

  6. #146
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Lafayette, LA
    Posts
    2,732

    Default Re: Baseball Coach or Life Coach

    Take a look at this. This is comparing to half a dozen teams that should never be in postseason play. Not teams that we are aiming to be. Very concerning and no one should feel like their job is safe.

    Attached Images Attached Images  

  7. #147
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Lafayette
    Posts
    4,008

    Default Re: Baseball Coach or Life Coach

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    Me wanted him gone if things don't change is much more reasonable than you saying he should be retained without knowing the future. This program is trending in the wrong direction and has all but completely failed to capitalize on the 2014 success. My point in bringing up the life lessons coaching style is what I believe is taking priority over executing on the field. Therefore, it is very relevant.
    In 2015 we followed up our '14 SR appearance (one of the best seasons in NCAA history for any team) with another SR appearance and then hosted a regional in '16. Here is hoping that we get back on track with that "trend".

    "Failed to capitalize"..... you should come check out the new ballpark.

  8. #148
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    695

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    So what would be your suggestion(s) of fixing this thing then? I think everyone agrees that there are issues that are manifesting themselves into poor play, coaching and recruiting. I'm sure there are a few things you see that need to be done?
    Well from a fan who just donates, attends and listens to games with no access to factual inside info...I'd say hitting HAS to improce...what needs to be done to make that happen...I don't know...I trust the man with 1,000 plus victories to have more of a PROFESSIONAL take on what that will take...

  9. #149
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Lafayette, LA
    Posts
    2,732

    Default Re: Baseball Coach or Life Coach

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    Just curious...Weren't you the poster who threw all your support to baseball when the Hud/ Trump mess went down?...something like you only wanted to support programs that were ran clean???....apologize in advance if I have you mistaken...
    I was done with Hud for more reasons than just that. It may have been the last straw but I wasn't raising hell for the Trump issue alone.

  10. #150
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Lafayette, LA
    Posts
    2,732

    Default Re: Baseball Coach or Life Coach

    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    In 2015 we followed up our '14 SR appearance (one of the best seasons in NCAA history for any team) with another SR appearance and then hosted a regional in '16. Here is hoping that we get back on track with that "trend".

    "Failed to capitalize"..... you should come check out the new ballpark.
    The half empty one this past weekend because the team was that difficult to watch? Yea, I have the uber receipts from midnight Wednesday, 2:30am Thursday and midnight Friday.

    Look I don't think some of you are understanding that down years and bad baseball are two different things. This year we were bad at baseball. That is never acceptable. We gave games away. We disappeared for 7,8,9 innings at a time. We let sunbelt middle relief no-hit us for prolonged stretches. Not just once, a lot. G5 down years happen. The bad baseball part is what makes you different from app st.

  11. #151
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Lafayette
    Posts
    4,008

    Default Re: Baseball Coach or Life Coach

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunProud View Post
    There is absolutely zero excuse for UL not to be in post season 4 out of every 5 years, period.
    We've had similar discussions in the past. Since the Super Regional format began only 15 teams out of approximately 300 have been able to achieve that feat. Definitely a great goal to aim for but "zero excuse"? By the way four out of the last six years is pretty close to what you are asking for.

  12. #152
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    695

    Default Re: Baseball Coach or Life Coach

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    Take a look at this. This is comparing to half a dozen teams that should never be in postseason play. Not teams that we are aiming to be. Very concerning and no one should feel like their job is safe.
    Look at these records....specifically 2011 and 2012...are you saying Coach Robe doesn't know how to right the ship?
    Attached Images Attached Images  

  13. #153
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Lafayette
    Posts
    3,056

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    We've had similar discussions in the past. Since the Super Regional format began only 15 teams out of approximately 300 have been able to achieve that feat. Definitely a great goal to aim for but "zero excuse"? By the way four out of the last six years is pretty close to what you are asking for.
    I agree to an extent, and when I say 4 out of 5 years, I mean regional expectations only. Of course, I would love super regionals and CWS mixed in, but I am realistic and this is college baseball. Also, I stand by my statement of "no excuses." We shall see what happens this off season.

  14. #154
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    4,029

    Default Re: Baseball Coach or Life Coach

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    Look at these records....specifically 2011 and 2012...are you saying Coach Robe doesn't know how to right the ship?
    from 2012 to 2013 our hitting coach left to pursue a career outside of coaching .....If Talbot is still here by next week he will be our hitting coach going into next year

  15. #155
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Lafayette
    Posts
    3,056

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    Look at these records....specifically 2011 and 2012...are you saying Coach Robe doesn't know how to right the ship?
    He righted the ship by bringing in Deggs. He needs to bring someone else in ASAP.

    My major concern with the program is what happens when Tony does decide to retire......

  16. #156
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Metairie,LA
    Posts
    3,911

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Well the truth is, like Coastal, we are a unique program. Culture, attendance, geography. All ideal. We play in a conference that is good enough to not hurt your RPI, but allows teams to get on runs in the middle of the season. I'm willing to give the new ballpark some time to actually bare fruit, but regardless, we play in a top flight ball park in America. We have an excellent reputation in college baseball, on the field and off he field. Our fans travel and do a very good job of it. We are the top supported baseball program in America (not named LSU, Florida, or Texas) from a media standpoint. I could go on..

    Are we going to come up short from time to time? Everyone does. Should we not expect to be a contender for league, regional and super regional championships every year? Based on everything above, you bet your ___ we should.
    I do agree with most of what you say, I just don't think we should be contending for Super Regionals every year. We rarely if ever get top20 recruiting classes, why should we be one of the top16 teams most years? Let's see how well we recruit over the next few years. If we can get players on par with the mid tier SEC teams, then I will completely agree with your assessment.

  17. #157
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Lafayette, LA
    Posts
    2,732

    Default Re: Baseball Coach or Life Coach

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    Look at these records....specifically 2011 and 2012...are you saying Coach Robe doesn't know how to right the ship?
    He could. Time to hold his feet to the fire. Not making the change last year because JT apparently had some personal issues or he was given too much responsibility was red flag one. Retaining him throughout this season because tony won't fire a coach midseason, red flag two. We get too far in the near future without an announcement, I will stand by my OP. Do you want to be a baseball coach or a life coach? Some decisions are hard. I'm afraid that's not the only hard decision he needs to make, but I'll leave that one to cajunhawk. The turnaround needs to start and start fast. Otherwise Dr. Maggard will also notice the ROI on that $16M reducing at an alarming rate.

  18. #158
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Posts
    3,029

    Default Re: Baseball Coach or Life Coach

    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post
    from 2012 to 2013 our hitting coach left to pursue a career outside of coaching .....If Talbot is still here by next week he will be our hitting coach going into next year
    That's not necessarily true.

    Edit: the part about if Talbot is here by next week he will be our hitting coach going into next year.

  19. #159
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    4,029

    Default Re: Baseball Coach or Life Coach

    Quote Originally Posted by Rougarou View Post
    That's not necessarily true.

    Edit: the part about if Talbot is here by next week he will be our hitting coach going into next year.
    I want Robe to prove me wrong and fire a coach but I won't hold my breath

  20. #160
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Lafayette
    Posts
    3,056

    Default Re: Baseball Coach or Life Coach

    Here's something else; I know that Tony doesn't like to openly comment on situations such as the ones we are discussing in this thread, and I respect that to an extent (however, I do find that he can be a bit arrogant/condescending about it at times). However, as a tax payer and season ticket holder, I, just like all of you, are very similar to stock holders. I believe that I deserve and am entitled to an explanation if JT is retained.


Page 8 of 25 FirstFirst ... 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 18 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •