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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun Monkee View Post
    Absolutely.

    And now we're back to a line being drawn between an assistant coach and the players on the team.

    An assistant coach who, by the way, is also your recruiting coordinator?

    What recruir is going to want to come here when faced with this?
    Our recruiting for this year is done. We would have a few commitments for the following year that would have to be re-recruited.

    I might suggest IF something is going to be done, not to be impatient (holy cow, did I just say that LOL)

    Because I don't think you make changes (not just talking about baseball) unless you have identified the replacement.

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    1,000,000% true




    Almost every player on the team hates him; fanbase hates him if Tony keeps him on the staff its only going to get worse
    Talbot will not be back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun Monkee View Post
    So is Todd Lott lacking in talent or character?
    No one here has anything but an outside view and a little bit of rumor feeds. Is it a character issue if you're a certain type of batter, you were drafted because of your bat, you were recruited because of your bat, and the batting coach doesn't like your swing?

    Tony won't put up with player insubordination. That might tell you a little about what transpired. Some fans who knew some things early in the season were posting "just let the players swing". There was a reason. But Tony sticks with his staff. Tony is a very detailed pitching coach. He's all about a detailed batting coach.

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    Talbot will not be back.
    I won't hold my breath... If he is still here by Friday we will have another year of Talbot

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    ... we may have only been one pitcher and one batter away from a seriously better team.
    I agree.

    Having one batter that opponents feel compelled to pitch around is like being granted a 4-out inning.

    How much better would the team be if it's season were to be sprinkled with more than a few 4-out innings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    No one here has anything but an outside view and a little bit of rumor feeds. Is it a character issue if you're a certain type of batter, you were drafted because of your bat, you were recruited because of your bat, and the batting coach doesn't like your swing?

    Tony won't put up with player insubordination. That might tell you a little about what transpired. Some fans who knew some things early in the season were posting "just let the players swing". There was a reason. But Tony sticks with his staff. Tony is a very detailed pitching coach. He's all about a detailed batting coach.
    There's a difference between insubordination and players knowing themselves. We talk about how tony trusts his pitchers to tell him how they feel. The best athletes know everything about their bodies and their ability to play the game. If Lott said, f you I'm not going to the cage, that's one thing. If he refused to do some of the things talbot wanted to with his swing, I'm not necessarily against that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    No one here has anything but an outside view and a little bit of rumor feeds. Is it a character issue if you're a certain type of batter, you were drafted because of your bat, you were recruited because of your bat, and the batting coach doesn't like your swing?

    Tony won't put up with player insubordination. That might tell you a little about what transpired. Some fans who knew some things early in the season were posting "just let the players swing". There was a reason. But Tony sticks with his staff. Tony is a very detailed pitching coach. He's all about a detailed batting coach.
    I'm not getting this. . You start off in your first paragraph saying that none of us has anything but an outside view and some rumors to go off of but then you proceed to tell me that insubordination was involved. Which is something Tony wouldn't tolerate

    We've heard stories of insubordination this season, of player staring down Talbot, but none of them involved Todd Lott.

    For that matter, in this thread alone we've got a grad assistant teaching contrary to the hitting coach's Philosophy.

    If there is a conflict between an assistant coach and the players, the impact on the program could very well be a long-term

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    There's a difference between insubordination and players knowing themselves. We talk about how tony trusts his pitchers to tell him how they feel. The best athletes know everything about their bodies and their ability to play the game. If Lott said, f you I'm not going to the cage, that's one thing. If he refused to do some of the things talbot wanted to with his swing, I'm not necessarily against that.
    Absolutely. And many of our more successful hitters in the Talbot years did just that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun Monkee View Post

    I'm not getting this. . You start off in your first paragraph saying that none of us has anything but an outside view and some rumors to go off of but then you proceed to tell me that insubordination was involved. Which is something Tony wouldn't tolerate

    We've heard stories of insubordination this season, of player staring down Talbot, but none of them involved Todd Lott.

    For that matter, in this thread alone we've got a grad assistant teaching contrary to the hitting coach's Philosophy.

    If there is a conflict between an assistant coach and the players, the impact on the program could very well be a long-term

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun Monkee View Post
    I find this confusing and contradictory. You start off in your first paragraph saying that none of us has anything but an outside view and some rumors to go off of but then you proceed to tell me that insubordination was involved. Which is something Tony wouldn't tolerate

    We've heard stories of insubordination this season, of player staring down Talbot, but none of them involved Todd Lott.

    For that matter, in this thread alone we've got a grad assistant teaching contrary to the hitting coach's Philosophy.

    If there is a conflict between an assistant coach and the players, the impact on the program could very well be a long-term
    It's not a contradiction. I'm stating what I heard is hear say. Tony not tolerating insubordination is a fact. What happened with Todd is hear say. I've never been to a team practice, don't know any players or their families personally. What I was told seemed to line up with Todd not getting in the lineup, and it seemed to explain his earlier at-bats... then his successes at the end of the regular season. It's a hear say story. That's what I was explaining. We pretty much only have these rumors and the play we witnessed watching the games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    There's a difference between insubordination and players knowing themselves. We talk about how tony trusts his pitchers to tell him how they feel. The best athletes know everything about their bodies and their ability to play the game. If Lott said, f you I'm not going to the cage, that's one thing. If he refused to do some of the things talbot wanted to with his swing, I'm not necessarily against that.
    There are players that need tweaking of their fundamentals, there are players that only need reps against D1 pitching, there are players you leave alone because it's more cerebral than physical, there are players that need you to challenge them, there are team dynamics that must be taught and managed. The gift of a coach is to know what applies when, where and to whom. A batting "system" is only a batting system.

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    So let's say that, for whatever reason, Robe and Maggard decide to let JT stay with the program at least another year. With conference championships seeming like a distant memory of the past, will some of the fan base start to withhold their interests in the program? Are we going to have a stadium with 2-3k fans?


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    So let's say that, for whatever reason, Robe and Maggard decide to let JT stay with the program at least another year. With conference championships seeming like a distant memory of the past, will some of the fan base start to withhold their interests in the program? Are we going to have a stadium with 2-3k fans?
    If are ranked +200 in the offense again numbers might dip under 2K. We will see a good amount of season tickets dropped if Talbot stays on because people know your $$$ speaks louder than your voice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    It's not a contradiction. I'm stating what I heard is hear say. Tony not tolerating insubordination is a fact. What happened with Todd is hear say. I've never been to a team practice, don't know any players or their families personally. What I was told seemed to line up with Todd not getting in the lineup, and it seemed to explain his earlier at-bats... then his successes at the end of the regular season. It's a hear say story. That's what I was explaining. We pretty much only have these rumors and the play we witnessed watching the games.
    So to the best of your knowledge, Todd wasn't insubordinate

    Because if he was insubordinate by your definition, and Rougerou is correct in his assessment that the best players have done the same thing then Tony has a different set of rules for different players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Finkle View Post
    So let's say that, for whatever reason, Robe and Maggard decide to let JT stay with the program at least another year. With conference championships seeming like a distant memory of the past, will some of the fan base start to withhold their interests in the program? Are we going to have a stadium with 2-3k fans?
    I'm pretty sure we are barely getting that in actual butts in the seats right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Finkle View Post
    So let's say that, for whatever reason, Robe and Maggard decide to let JT stay with the program at least another year. With conference championships seeming like a distant memory of the past, will some of the fan base start to withhold their interests in the program? Are we going to have a stadium with 2-3k fans?
    Talbot will not be back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    There are players that need tweaking of their fundamentals, there are players that only need reps against D1 pitching, there are players you leave alone because it's more cerebral than physical, there are players that need you to challenge them, there are team dynamics that must be taught and managed. The gift of a coach is to know what applies when, where and to whom. A batting "system" is only a batting system.
    Good post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun Monkee View Post
    So to the best of your knowledge, Todd wasn't insubordinate

    Because if he was insubordinate by your definition, and Rougerou is correct in his assessment that the best players have done the same thing then Tony has a different set of rules for different players.
    Nice subtle race card you are playing there...Todd didn't even try to catch a fly ball at Texas..he froze. That's why he went sit next to Tony initially. Then every time he got a chance to hit he struck out miserably. Why did Todd end the season in the lineup? Because he started hitting the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    Moronic thread? Or what you think was a moronic post by MountainDew? The OP wrote a very reasonable post. It's produced very reasonable responses. I don't "know" Tony. But I don't question his competitiveness versus commitment to being a life mentor. I think it jives well for him and us. It's Tony's choice of how he talks to the public. It's mellow yellow to say the least. And when we're not playing good ball, that grinds on the passionate fan.

    It's funny how baseball coaches can get theatrically mad at umps (that's baseball)... displaying behavior that won't cut it in any other walk of life their athletes will experience... but won't get mad at their program, their staff, or themselves in public. It is a little hypocritical.

    Tony may not give a flying squat about fans... or he could be misguided into believing the biggest and best fans are all cooperative and quiet... but he should be more expressive sometimes about how sucking wind in baseball sucks wind. I'm a calculated person with 1000 pounds of passion. Those are competing forces. I severely appreciate those that have that makeup. I'm not very appreciative of gifted people that are heavily slanted only one way. All passion sucks. But pure calculation does too.
    To quote the original post..... "Does Coach Robe want to be a baseball coach or a life coach?"

    As though these are mutually exclusive events. Rougaru hit the nail on the head with his response and I don't think I could have stated it better. I think every coache's responsibility (unless the players are getting paid) is to help mold and develop boys/girls to become great men/women.

    As usual the thread has drifted, but yes I think the question posed by the op was moronic (def. very foolish). Being a "life coach" is exactly what makes him a great baseball coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportsfanatic21 View Post
    Talbot will not be back.
    Hope you are right!

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