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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    This team has gotten progressively worse over the last few years coming off the 2014 season. That season should have catapulted us to that next level. We didn't build a $16M stadium and put together one of the top non-conference schedules to miss post season.
    This is fair as a criticism and concern. The "life coach" thing you based the thread on is a red herring in my opinion.

    Again, Matt Deggs wrote a book about redemption in life, went on a book tour and does various other paid speaking engagements. His whole thing is developing boy into men. I would bet all of the posters who don't want Robe to help his players develope as young men would salivate at the thought of Deggs returning to this program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post
    Its a vaild concern people are fearful nothing changes going into next season and we end up with the same result as the last 2 season. Going on a 3 year postseason drought woukd kill all momentum we gained in stickball
    We were told last year that the lack of at bats was why we struggled offensively. Not only did we not get better, we got worse. And now we aren't getting any indication that a change is coming. It's an extremely valid concern. I hope Robe is shuffling to the mound 30 years from now, but I'm not going to turn a blind eye to some pretty big issues with the trend line we are on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rougarou View Post
    This is fair as a criticism and concern. The "life coach" thing you based the thread on is a red herring in my opinion.

    Again, Matt Deggs wrote a book about redemption in life, went on a book tour and does various other paid speaking engagements. His whole thing is developing boy into men. I would bet all of the posters who don't want Robe to help his players develope as young men would salivate at the thought of Deggs returning to this program.
    Please show me which poster said they don't want Robe to develop young men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    Good reply to an absolutely moronic thread.
    Moronic thread? Or what you think was a moronic post by MountainDew? The OP wrote a very reasonable post. It's produced very reasonable responses. I don't "know" Tony. But I don't question his competitiveness versus commitment to being a life mentor. I think it jives well for him and us. It's Tony's choice of how he talks to the public. It's mellow yellow to say the least. And when we're not playing good ball, that grinds on the passionate fan.

    It's funny how baseball coaches can get theatrically mad at umps (that's baseball)... displaying behavior that won't cut it in any other walk of life their athletes will experience... but won't get mad at their program, their staff, or themselves in public. It is a little hypocritical.

    Tony may not give a flying squat about fans... or he could be misguided into believing the biggest and best fans are all cooperative and quiet... but he should be more expressive sometimes about how sucking wind in baseball sucks wind. I'm a calculated person with 1000 pounds of passion. Those are competing forces. I severely appreciate those that have that makeup. I'm not very appreciative of gifted people that are heavily slanted only one way. All passion sucks. But pure calculation does too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    Moronic thread? Or what you think was a moronic post by MountainDew? The OP wrote a very reasonable post. It's produced very reasonable responses. I don't "know" Tony. But I don't question his competitiveness versus commitment to being a life mentor. I think it jives well for him and us. It's Tony's choice of how he talks to the public. It's mellow yellow to say the least. And when we're not playing good ball, that grinds on the passionate fan.

    It's funny how baseball coaches can get theatrically mad at umps (that's baseball)... displaying behavior that won't cut it in any other walk of life their athletes will experience... but won't get mad at their program, their staff, or themselves in public. It is a little hypocritical.

    Tony may not give a flying squat about fans... or he could be misguided into believing the biggest and best fans are all cooperative and quiet... but he should be more expressive sometimes about how sucking wind in baseball sucks wind. I'm a calculated person with 1000 pounds of passion. Those are competing forces. I severely appreciate those that have that makeup. I'm not very appreciative of gifted people that are heavily slanted only one way. All passion sucks. But pure calculation does too.
    Nice post. We all need to calculate our responses in the real world.
    RP is for uncalculated responses. It is what makes it interesting!

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    What y'all are missing is he has run the program about the same as he did 3,5,10 years ago. And he still has the same fire he had 20 years ago. It's just now since he took on the Deggs project a lot of what everyone accuses Robe of being a life coach and not a baseball coach has become public material. Hence Degg's book. Does anyone remember his Saturday morning interviews with Bitter that would run over by 30 min or an hour? The things he was discussing back then are the same kinda things he is saying now. And honestly....this has probably made him a better coach.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lifetimecajun View Post
    What y'all are missing is he has run the program about the same as he did 3,5,10 years ago. And he still has the same fire he had 20 years ago. It's just now since he took on the Deggs project a lot of what everyone accuses Robe of being a life coach and not a baseball coach has become public material. Hence Degg's book. Does anyone remember his Saturday morning interviews with Bitter that would run over by 30 min or an hour? The things he was discussing back then are the same kinda things he is saying now. And honestly....this has probably made him a better coach.
    So you're not concerned one bit that we parlayed the best offense in the country, #1 ranking and a brand new $16M facility that rivals any big time program into the (as listed right now) #272 ranked batting average in the ncaa? He may be coaching the same way he always had and he was having success. That is the exact reason I posed the question. So is he going to triple down on his ways or is he going to make some adjustments and right the ship? We all know the first step staring him right in the face.

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    Guys...I must say I'm a little worried about MAT...has anyone heard from him or checked on him today?...this thread screams his name for a response...


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    Absolutely it is concerning. But he had a different staff coaching the area everyone is concerned about. In no way shape or form is Talbot equal to Matt Deggs. Two diff guys. Two diff approaches to coaching hitting. My point was about who Tony is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lifetimecajun View Post
    Absolutely it is concerning. But he had a different staff coaching the area everyone is concerned about. In no way shape or form is Talbot equal to Matt Deggs. Two diff guys. Two diff approaches to coaching hitting. My point was about who Tony is.
    When the offense struggled last year, he gave Talbot a pass and used the at bats excuse. It got worse this year, what is he going to do? This IS about who Tony is.

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    The real fault of Talbot in my opinion is recruiting. Not enough D1 talent on the field.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lifetimecajun View Post
    The real fault of Talbot in my opinion is recruiting. Not enough D1 talent on the field.
    Sensley and Lott are two that say otherwise. Both hit well when not wearing a Cajuns uniform. Not saying you're wrong though. It's a bad combination needless to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    Guys...I must say I'm a little worried about MAT...has anyone heard from him or checked on him today?...this thread screams his name for a response...
    I know you're being sarcastic, but what's this got to do with me?

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    Well in my opinion when you aren't good enough to play based on either your bat or your glove isn't good enough to stay in a lineup you are not good enough. That means one of the two is lacking and makes you a role player. We were bad enough that those kind of kids ended up being starters. We went the defense route in several spots because there was no good enough option to replace them offensively.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lifetimecajun View Post
    Well in my opinion when you aren't good enough to play based on either your bat or your glove isn't good enough to stay in a lineup you are not good enough. That means one of the two is lacking and makes you a role player. We were bad enough that those kind of kids ended up being starters. We went the defense route in several spots because there was no good enough option to replace them offensively.
    Or the hitting coach messes with the swing you had for the past 5 years 2 weeks before the season started

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    That also.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    Please show me which poster said they don't want Robe to develop young men.
    Look at mountaindew's post.

    Your argument in your original post was that Robe should choose between being a baseball coach and a life coach. I took that to mean he should forego developing young men and should stick to only coaching baseball. If what you meant to convey was that Robe should continue coaching as he is but care more about winning and losing, ok.

    I think if you are concerned he hasn't lived up to expectations, then that is a good concern to have, but I think it has nothing to do with the "life coach" part of what he does (for lack of a better term).

    Telling his team who just played their last game of the season and lost in embarrassing fashion that baseball is just a game does not mean he doesn't care about winning. There is no point in reaming your guys when the season is over.

    Now at exit interviews I have no doubt he will get honest and real with every player. We will see how many guys will not be back next year because they weren't/aren't good enough. I'm willing to bet we will see some coaching changes too.

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    All I know is that we sitting watching former NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP CC win our conference in all ways. We not even 2nd now. People don't fear us know more. Change in assistant coaching is needed now. If Talbot starts next season as hitting coach, the fan base will diminish. It would be a sign of loyalty over winning. I don't donate for that crap .. And I have spoken to plenty of die hard Baseballer fans who think this down slide is a water shed moment. We CAN'T survive another mediocre worse year than before previous year again.


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    Talbot won't be back.


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    Just a note on Talbot......think a lil about his hiring, and how he got the gig.....probably knew Robe before and came with a bunch of refs.....no doubt had talks with Robe and Bab on every imaginable question of what the job entailed.....every time a new replacement comes in, the kids have to buy into the whole philosophy for it to work and don't forget the talent level of the players and it's part of the successful components.....statistically it ain't working or it's not working enough and a change is needed and the question is what to change (scheme, players, style, coach)......so if a new face solution is selected, who do you look for? I think about one third of the team had acceptable years at the plate and maybe one third very bad years. With this the rest probably at the lower end.....but somewhere the blame has to rest for it's part in talent level!!!


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