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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    If we are going to build anew, you don't short yourself on future growth. We've gotten 40k and close to 40k a few times. If you build a 30k stadium, it better be built in such a way that future expansion to 50k could easily be done. Some 30k designs presented here do not allow future expansion.

    IMHO, you build a 40k with options for 50k down the road in case we do become the next Boise.
    I would rather have a smaller, more intimate stadium where tickets would be more valuable. 35k is plenty and I agree with those who mention the new MLS stadium designs. There is not a bad seat in those places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    And don't build a stadium over 40k capacity because you will never fill it. Not many casual fans/ families will drop $150-$200 to go to a sun belt football game. The die hards will always be there but that's only about 12k people at most. Keep raising prices and you will only need a stadium the size of Tulane. Or be smart and find a balance that gets the masses involved for every game.
    Ticket prices have not risen in 10 years( family 5 pass is still $70) all the extra is fluff and does not concern me. Most casual fans will come to the game when UL is doing well and pay their single-game ticket prices, and that's what we want for now ....butts in seats

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post
    Ticket prices have not risen in 10 years( family 5 pass is still $70) all the extra is fluff and does not concern me. Most casual fans will come to the game when UL is doing well and pay their single-game ticket prices, and that's what we want for now ....butts in seats
    That's great it doesn't concern you.

    We need continuing revenue in the form of season ticket sales. You can't pay for stadium upgrades in the form of individual game ticket sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post

    I pay 1000 for 2 tickets a parking pass and a tailgate spot cant find that anywhere in the country for that cheap
    I pay $1100 for 2 Saints season tickets(10 games) with free parking a block away. And no, I am not at the very top. Those are even cheaper. I also sold two of my games and got 40% credit for this years season tickets. It's such a better value it cannot be measured. Concession prices at the dome are slightly higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxLouisiana View Post
    That's great it doesn't concern you.

    We need continuing revenue in the form of season ticket sales. You can't pay for stadium upgrades in the form of individual game ticket sales.
    Never said it was a source of revenue but a reason why we need a 40K stadium, not a 30k one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post
    Ticket prices have not risen in 10 years( family 5 pass is still $70) all the extra is fluff and does not concern me. Most casual fans will come to the game when UL is doing well and pay their single-game ticket prices, and that's what we want for now ....butts in seats
    Our attendance says it concerns a lot of people...Our highest attended game is 32k that didn't involve Mcneese or southern bringing boat loads of fans or Texas A&M or Alabama. Home games with power 5's are feware far between and even more so with teams like Texas A&M and Bama..so unless you are planning to play Mcneese and southern every year no reason to build anything bigger than 40k and that's probably still too big. Build a stadium for 6 Saturday's ever year, not a stadium for 1 game every 5 or 6 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post
    Basketball played an extremely ____ty schedule that's why people did not go none care about Louisana College .. Now if football is 8-2 or 9-1 We will have 30K + for the South Al game
    Basketball and Football will continue to play ____ty schedules as long as we are a G5 school. Substitute SMIss for La College and you still have poor attendance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetryCajun View Post
    I pay $1100 for 2 Saints season tickets(10 games) with free parking a block away. And no, I am not at the very top. Those are even cheaper. I also sold two of my games and got 40% credit for this years season tickets. It's such a better value it cannot be measured. Concession prices at the dome are slightly higher.
    I could only pay $50 a game for 2 tickets & free shuttle ride .. If I chose that route

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    Our attendance says it concerns a lot of people...Our highest attended game is 32k that didn't involve Mcneese or southern bringing boat loads of fans or Texas A&M or Alabama. Home games with power 5's are feware far between and even more so with teams like Texas A&M and Bama..so unless you are planning to play Mcneese and southern every year no reason to build anything bigger than 40k and that's probably still too big. Build a stadium for 6 Saturday's ever year, not a stadium for 1 game every 5 or 6 years.
    And btw, averaging 28k per season would be an unbelievable accomplishment for our program, and indicate we are one of the most vibrant G5 schools in the country. There is nothing to be ashamed of for having crowds between 25-30k in today's environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetryCajun View Post
    And btw, averaging 28k per season would be an unbelievable accomplishment for our program, and indicate we are one of the most vibrant G5 schools in the country. There is nothing to be ashamed of for having crowds between 25-30k in today's environment.
    And i still think attendance will keep dropping...people's attention spans are getting smaller and smaller especially younger people. Hard for a family to drop that kind of money if their kids struggle to make it to half time. It's not just here, it's eveywhere and there are a lot of different variables effecting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    And i still think attendance will keep dropping...people's attention spans are getting smaller and smaller especially younger people. Hard for a family to drop that kind of money if their kids struggle to make it to half time. It's not just here, it's eveywhere and there are a lot of different variables effecting it.
    Can't disagree with that. Add to the fact that participation in youth football is in decline (20-25% by many accounts) which will further add to a decline in fans for the sport in future years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    And i still think attendance will keep dropping...people's attention spans are getting smaller and smaller especially younger people. Hard for a family to drop that kind of money if their kids struggle to make it to half time. It's not just here, it's eveywhere and there are a lot of different variables effecting it.
    Gambling is another variable. If you like betting why would you go to a game when you could sit at your tailgate spot or home and follow all the games you have money on? The bottom line is make the stadium as high end as possible. Purists will hate it, but the experience is more important than the size of the stadium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetryCajun View Post
    Gambling is another variable. If you like betting why would you go to a game when you could sit at your tailgate spot or home and follow all the games you have money on? The bottom line is make the stadium as high end as possible. Purists will hate it, but the experience is more important than the size of the stadium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post
    I could only pay $50 a game for 2 tickets & free shuttle ride .. If I chose that route
    Would look great to have additional 15k fans on top of the 15k diehards in attendance every Saturday...your 2 for $50 is great for the individual fan.... but as someone stated earlier...$50 tickets aren't going to pay off the new stadium debt...you need more people paying into the parking, tailgate, excellence fund accounts to make it feasible....

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    This is just more of a case to renovate Cajun Field. We don't know where we will be, we can always keep it around 35k, and if we needed more we could always just expand, and where CajunField is the expansion is easy. It's already dug in .


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    Quote Originally Posted by MetryCajun View Post
    Basketball and Football will continue to play ____ty schedules as long as we are a G5 school. Substitute SMIss for La College and you still have poor attendance.
    Home schedule that includes Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech, and Rice is a heck lot better than one with Georgia State, Coastal Carolina and ulm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    I do like the feel of many of the MLS stadiums that have been built recently. They also tend to be more cost conscious than say standard American football field designs. I've made a few trips to the Houston Dynamo field and really like the layout and seating. Take that design and build it right up against Congress with retail space facing the outside of the stadium. You could have food venues/ coffee shop and a Ragin Cajun store that could be utilized seven days a week and then have access on the inside of the stadium for game days. While your at it move the Cajun field bus stop here and protect it from the weather. Students would then be inclined to visit that retail space during their daily commutes to campus. Really want to get crazy? Build condominiums in one end zone. They would not have direct stadium access but with some extra large balconies would be a great place to watch a game from. The revenue from the condo's would basically pay for that endzone section. Add the revenue from retail locations and suites and this isn't so unrealistic anymore.
    Exactly!!!! Look all across the world at 35,000-45,000 seat soccer venues. They are absolutely amazing and create a crazy atmosphere.

    Gazniatep Turkey has a beautiful 36000 seat stadium. So does Poland and several other countries that were around $150M. I mean absolute gorgeous stadiums.

    Take a cue from the MLS and build like they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    I agree with you...anyone here ever went to a game at Middle Tennessee??....terrible stadium...
    MTSU and UCF have total steel and aluminum erector set stadiums. They get the job done, but just look.and feel cheap.

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    I spoke to an Architect today and this is what he told me.

    1)If you are making modifications to a building where the cost totals 50% or more of the cost of replacement you have to bring the entire structure up to current codes PROVIDED the Authority Having Jurisdiction over the project follows current codes. (Generally there are some exceptions to this however)

    2) If the Authority Having Jurisdiction is the State of Louisiana then there regulatory authority is the State of Louisiana Facilities and Planning. They typically do not follow the fifty percent rule. HOWEVER, anything that is an addition to an existing building (like the SEZ or additions to Tiger Stadium) have to meet current codes ESPECIALLY Life Safety Code (NFPA 101 etc) and Handicapped accessibility . I am thinking the additions to Tiger stadium have separate means of egress because the means of egress for the older portion of the stadium did not meet code or capacity requirements for the additions. Similar situation for the SEZ for Cajun field. The SEZ project had to meet all requirements for Life Safety Code and Handicapped requirements and CURRENT BUILDING CODES. That's why the slope of the stadium in that section is different from the rest of the stadium.

    Here comes the rub. Any renovation of Cajun Field (old section) is virtually impossible to bring to current codes because the stadium slope (and resulting step and aisle slope) and seat pitch requirements can't be met without total reconstruction. Big problem with aisle width and aisle handrails. Once concrete is in place it is not cast in stone but it's pretty damn close. The only thing that could possibly be done is to redo the press box and add some suites across the top. This could only be done provided somebody signs off on the supporting structure. This may or may not be a problem. We would pretty much have to leave the rest alone because that would involve total reconstruction which is not a viable option.

    One final thing. He did imply that LSU could do what they did because they are LSU. I'm afraid that's the way it is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    Houston's new stadium cost them $128M to build. We don't need to spend $250M. It also doesn't have to be huge. 35-40k seats would be ideal. I really like the designs of the smaller soccer stadiums across Europe. Or just take Tulanes design for the one side of the stadium that's actually a real stadium. Lol
    There's no part of TooLame stadium I'd want to encorporate at UL. That whole prefabricated facility is a joke and eyesore.

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