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    Quote Originally Posted by campo118 View Post
    I would surely hope no damages would be awarded for a poke in the shoulder. And here lies the problem. Are we in a progressive society or is this the old days? Frivolous litigation occurs all the time now. Progressive society. Yet, in this day where women are equal, why does the old school double standard still occur? This action is okay with a male but not a female. This is hypocrisy at its finest. You can't have your cake and eat it too...

    As much as so many of you see black and white, morality is subjective and will always be a shade of gray.
    It is not okay for a male coach to lay hands on a player in anger or abusive intent. Real Sports (Episode 253 - April 2018) on HBO just did a segment on the growing number of male coaches being fired for this reason. With the pressure on coaches to win, it is imperative that coaches know exactly what is permissible, and be accountable if they cross the line.

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    His language was bad, but that's more the norm than not in most higher level coaching, so who cares.

    His "poking" is what it is...you can't do it in today's world, and he did. Like someone said, being a degrading azhole laid the foundation for something like that to bite him in the ___.

    All of that stuff standing alone isn't that big of a deal to me, but the sum is/was a problem.

    As to those that have known him for years and talk about all of the great things he's done, and think that things were made up just to get rid of him, and continue to defend him...the one thing that needs to be remembered most is (if it is true...and from everything I've read, it is) that this man told a kid, who unsuccessfully (thank God) tried suicide to try again and do a better job...or however it was worded.

    If anyone can defend our university employing someone that vile, especially someone who is a leader of young ladies...then you have a HUGE problem and should probably seek help. Period.


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    Quote Originally Posted by campo118 View Post
    Excuse me for not thinking poking someone in the shoulder should be a fireable offense...
    Go into any workplace in the 21st Century. Poke a female co-worker in the area around the collarbone several times while verbally berating her.

    That is a fireable offense in ANY workplace, especially a corporation or University. NO Human Resources department would rule other wise.

    But hey....if my daughter was playing for Mike and he used a rape analogy to "motivate" her, he wouldn't have to worry about a human resource ruling.

    I'd have ripped the trach right out of his throat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by campo118 View Post
    Excuse me for not thinking poking someone in the shoulder should be a fireable offense...
    I worked 39 1/2 years in the private business world and poking is a fireable offense without question. Now HR would try to work something out first. They would recommend anger management training and see if that satisfied the victim. I don't know if that was suggested here and I bet it was since he was suspended two weeks before the decision. I also know that HR made the final decision, not the AD or President. In many companies however security would have escorted him out the door so fast after the incident that no one would realize he had left. He would have needed permission to come back and get his personal belongings at a time when he could be supervised. Different world we live in today. I do think there may be something to the suggestion that medication could have impacted his behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    Go into any workplace in the 21st Century. Poke a female co-worker in the area around the collarbone several times while verbally berating her.

    That is a fireable offense in ANY workplace, especially a corporation or University. NO Human Resources department would rule other wise.

    But hey....if my daughter was playing for Mike and he used a rape analogy to "motivate" her, he wouldn't have to worry about a human resource ruling.

    I'd have ripped the trach right out of his throat.
    Both verbal actions are unacceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    I've heard from multiple sources that he also threatened to physically harm our former AD while in the President's office when all of that drama of him resigning back in 2013 occurred. And the sad part about that is the fact that Dr. Savoie took his side, and this man STILL pulled this stunt this past Fall.
    In most businesses he would have been fired or reprimanded for his behavior back in 2013. In my past I would equate it to a team lead threatening the department manager in the vice president's office. No matter how well liked the team lead was by others, he would have been disciplined severely for that behavior. TJoe let him off the hook because he was more popular than the AD at the time. That made him think he had more stroke than he really did. He thought he was untouchable due to that incident and it came back to haunt him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    I worked 39 1/2 years in the business world and poking is a fireable offense without question. Now HR would try to work something out first. They would recommend anger management training and see if that satisfied the victim. I don't know if that was suggested here and I bet it was since he was suspended two weeks before the decision. I also know that HR made the final decision, not the AD or President. In many companies however security would have escorted him out the door so after the incident that no one would realize you were gone. You would need permission to come back and get your personal belongings at a time when you could be supervised. Different world we live in today. I do think there may be something to the suggestion that medication could have impacted his behavior.
    I've been in mgmt my whole career. Lots of things would get you a second chance, including drug usage. Any violent acts or threats of violence (which included any contact because of anger) were grounds for immediate termination. Unfortunately I've made that call a few times.

    And as others have tried to point out this wasn't a few people in the administration making claims. I was aware of multiple incidents from various sources that I trust. Any one of which would result in disciplinary action all the way up to termination.

    I think what people struggle with is their own personal interactions with him. That is human nature though. He could be the greatest person walking the planet in one scenario and someone totally different in another. How often have you seen a reporter interviewing a neighbor/friend etc. about some crime that was committed and them saying they can't believe their friend/ family member was capable of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by campo118 View Post
    I've known lotief for all of my life. He was my very first tee ball coach in an all black community that he volunteered his time to help out around his busy attorney schedule. He was someone I looked up to.
    So what you are saying is that you are biased. You are willing to give him a pass because he was your t-ball coach and seemed like an awesome guy no matter what he did later in life.

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    The man gave his life to helping kids, coaching and teaching.
    In an unrelated story:

    I had a cousin who played football at Penn State. He said Jerry Sandusky was a nice guy and gave a lot of his life to helping kids, coaching and teaching.

    When the news about Sandusky broke I was happy to hear my cousin denounce the sick bastard and not keep blindly defending the Jerry Sandusky who he thought he knew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basinbear View Post
    He fired himself with his behavior. Move on
    ^^^^This!

    Anyone thought conference coach of the year would be the discussion we're having now 6 months ago?

    Thanks Dr. Maggard, here's hoping football turns out the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatestStory View Post
    That isn't just your opinion, those are facts.

    That bitter little man tried to burn the program down to the ground after his shenanigans were exposed and he was shown the door. There is nothing he would have loved more than for every player to transfer out of the program.

    He was 100% responsible for the 3 girls who transferred. He not only encouraged them, but also made the phone calls to make it happen. He also contacted Ole Miss and had them open the door for Kelli Martinez to transfer. Fortunately, Martinez decided to stay in Lafayette and finish her career as a Ragin Cajun. I have much respect for Kelli making such a level headed decision in a time of great turmoil.
    Didn't know that about Kelli. Thanks for sharing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    In most businesses he would have been fired or reprimanded for his behavior back in 2013. In my past I would equate it to a team lead threatening the department manager in the vice president's office. No matter how well liked the team lead was by others, he would have been disciplined severely for that behavior. TJoe let him off the hook because he was more popular than the AD at the time. That made him think he had more stroke than he really did. He thought he was untouchable due to that incident and it came back to haunt him.
    Bingo!

    He didn't think T-Joe would flinch, but this became a HR issue. After that, he was done.

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    The fact that we're having to rehash this, in the middle of a miraculous accomplishment, ____es me the hell off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    The fact that we're having to rehash this, in the middle of a miraculous accomplishment, ____es me the hell off.
    Because to some people here, this season was a disappointment. It's seriously baffling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    Because to some people here, this season was a disappointment. It's seriously baffling.
    Will it be a disappointment if they win a regional? It ain't over yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleCajun View Post
    It is not okay for a male coach to lay hands on a player in anger or abusive intent. Real Sports (Episode 253 - April 2018) on HBO just did a segment on the growing number of male coaches being fired for this reason. With the pressure on coaches to win, it is imperative that coaches know exactly what is permissible, and be accountable if they cross the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    The fact that we're having to rehash this, in the middle of a miraculous accomplishment, ____es me the hell off.
    The "Glasgo" transition should begin AFTER Glasco's arrival.

    I do not comprehend all this rehashing of BEFORE Glasco.

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