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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Unlike the Big Fish, Davis has been scheduling big boy games since he first arrived at Middle.

    Again, it's not about winning 20 games necessarily.
    Middle does not get big boys to their place just like us. He does go on road a little more which I think we will do in future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Middle does not get big boys to their place just like us. He does go on road a little more which I think we will do in future.
    ..........3 games in March.....that is and will be our future it surely seems like!!!

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    Well in our case it's rarely 3 games.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    ..........3 games in March.....that is and will be our future it surely seems like!!!
    The point is, it is 3 games in March for a lot of conferences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Middle does not get big boys to their place just like us. He does go on road a little more which I think we will do in future.
    Don't forget the most important thing....more often than not, he wins those games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Middle does not get big boys to their place just like us. He does go on road a little more which I think we will do in future.
    Not exactly true, Mike. Middle had a much stronger non conference schedule. Their worst non conference home game was vs RPI 172 Florida Gulf Coast, best was RPI 81 Belmont. Our best was RPI 150 SE Louisiana, our worst was RPI 298 McNeese. They also have on-going home and home contracts with Vanderbilt and Ole Miss. This year Ole Miss was at Middle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch0364 View Post
    Would you have had the patience middle Tennessee had with Kermit Davis? In his first 9 years with Middle he didn't have a season with 20+ wins. Now since 2011 he has only 1 season with less than 24 wins. Cajun fans would have been running him out of town year 5.
    I was never a Kermit Davis fan, so that answer would be no for me. But why can we not expect similar results to New Mexico State, Georgia State or Steven F Austin? We are told by some that football drains our resources to be consistently competitive in G5 Basketball. Yet these programs among others in the G5 are going to the NCAA Tournament more frequently than UL and all of them have football programs.

    SF Austin 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018
    Georgia State 2015, 2018
    New Mexico State 2013,2014, 2015, 2017, 2018

    The 2018 season was anomaly an for Coach Marlin here at UL going 27-6 with a regular season championship. I think this season and an NIT birth has earned Coach Marlin another 2 seasons. But the lack of NCAA Tournament Bids is not acceptable in my book. He was hired to repair this program after Coach Lee and he has done that job well. But if G5 MBB is irrelevant, then how relevant is a program that has done little to nothing in conference championships and 1 NCAA Tournament bid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudsheen#Fired View Post
    I have been supporter of you this whole time bob, but you blew this game. How do you play a 6 man fricking rotation with a team that is tired as ____. How hard is it to play pj or jd for 2 minutes each in the half? This team had its hands on its knees throughout the second half.

    You just ruined this teams season
    Lol, we didn't have our defensive and newcomer player of the year at all and Stove played minimally but yeah it's totally on the coach, yeah right. If we had one or both of them we would have won easily

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    I was never a Kermit Davis fan, so that answer would be no for me. But why can we not expect similar results to New Mexico State, Georgia State or Steven F Austin? We are told by some that football drains our resources to be consistently competitive in G5 Basketball. Yet these programs among others in the G5 are going to the NCAA Tournament more frequently than UL and all of them have football programs.

    SF Austin 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018
    Georgia State 2015, 2018
    New Mexico State 2013,2014, 2015, 2017, 2018

    The 2018 season was anomaly an for Coach Marlin here at UL going 27-6 with a regular season championship. I think this season and an NIT birth has earned Coach Marlin another 2 seasons. But the lack of NCAA Tournament Bids is not acceptable in my book. He was hired to repair this program after Coach Lee and he has done that job well. But if G5 MBB is irrelevant, then how relevant is a program that has done little to nothing in conference championships and 1 NCAA Tournament bid?
    I'm not disputing any of that. I found using Middle as the unicorn G5 program funny with how that program was built. On top of that I'm not going to crap on a 27 win season and a conference championship.

    I do think we need a lot more consistency in program but we are in a one bid league so we are fighting for 1 spot. It has been proven over and over that you have to be near perfect to gain an at large.

    Now 1 thing I think needs to happen immediately is scheduling a tougher out of conference. We need to improve our SOS and for the foreseeable future that's not happening with the conference schedule. If we can do that and continue to build on this season I will be happy. I'm not an ncaa tourney or bust guy simply because we still have to win 3 games in March to go dancing. That is a slim margin for error or like this season 2 key injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch0364 View Post
    I'm not disputing any of that. I found using Middle as the unicorn G5 program funny with how that program was built. On top of that I'm not going to crap on a 27 win season and a conference championship.

    I do think we need a lot more consistency in program but we are in a one bid league so we are fighting for 1 spot. It has been proven over and over that you have to be near perfect to gain an at large.

    Now 1 thing I think needs to happen immediately is scheduling a tougher out of conference. We need to improve our SOS and for the foreseeable future that's not happening with the conference schedule. If we can do that and continue to build on this season I will be happy. I'm not an ncaa tourney or bust guy simply because we still have to win 3 games in March to go dancing. That is a slim margin for error or like this season 2 key injuries.
    Hate to burst your bubble, but that at large for MTSU was as a 10 seed...... from the Sun Belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    Hate to burst your bubble, but that at large for MTSU was as a 10 seed...... from the Sun Belt.
    I hate to burst your bubble but that is no where near the norm. You can name a lot more teams who deserved a bid who were left out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    Hate to burst your bubble, but that at large for MTSU was as a 10 seed...... from the Sun Belt.
    Would you have had the patience with Kermit Davis to wait 9 years before getting that bid? Even better 9 years to even win 20+ games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch0364 View Post
    I'm not disputing any of that. I found using Middle as the unicorn G5 program funny with how that program was built. On top of that I'm not going to crap on a 27 win season and a conference championship.

    I do think we need a lot more consistency in program but we are in a one bid league so we are fighting for 1 spot. It has been proven over and over that you have to be near perfect to gain an at large.

    Now 1 thing I think needs to happen immediately is scheduling a tougher out of conference. We need to improve our SOS and for the foreseeable future that's not happening with the conference schedule. If we can do that and continue to build on this season I will be happy. I'm not an ncaa tourney or bust guy simply because we still have to win 3 games in March to go dancing. That is a slim margin for error or like this season 2 key injuries.
    Yet, Hunter at Georgia State in four years has 2 SBC Tournament Championships, 1 Regular Season Championship, 2 NCCA Tournament Bids and 1 NIT Tournament Bid. That's called progress.

    This season didn't happen in a vacuum, this is season 8 for Coach Marlin. At some point, our standards need to something more than plus .500 season and 1 NCAA Tournament in 8 seasons. If this isn't clear enough to the people that keep asking why MBB doesn't have better attendance, I'm not certain what will convince them. Marlin hasn't created any new tradition of winning championships or earning NCAA bids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    Yet, Hunter at Georgia State in four years has 2 SBC Tournament Championships, 1 Regular Season Championship, 2 NCCA Tournament Bids and 1 NIT Tournament Bid. That's called progress.

    This season didn't happen in a vacuum, this is season 8 for Coach Marlin. At some point, our standards need to something more than plus .500 season and 1 NCAA Tournament in 8 seasons. If this isn't clear enough to the people that keep asking why MBB doesn't have better attendance, I'm not certain what will convince them. Marlin hasn't created any new tradition of winning championships or earning NCAA bids.
    This!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    Yet, Hunter at Georgia State in four years has 2 SBC Tournament Championships, 1 Regular Season Championship, 2 NCCA Tournament Bids and 1 NIT Tournament Bid. That's called progress.

    This season didn't happen in a vacuum, this is season 8 for Coach Marlin. At some point, our standards need to something more than plus .500 season and 1 NCAA Tournament in 8 seasons. If this isn't clear enough to the people that keep asking why MBB doesn't have better attendance, I'm not certain what will convince them. Marlin hasn't created any new tradition of winning championships or earning NCAA bids.
    And in none of those seasons would GSU have got an at large.

    Again I'm not disputing we need more consistency or progress. I am not going to be an ncaa or bust guy. Now if we dont make progress or show consistency next year I will not be happy.

    BUT we could very well win 20 games and be in an ncaa tourney or win 25 and not make a post season tourney. Both of those scenarios will have fans crapping on good seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch0364 View Post
    I hate to burst your bubble but that is no where near the norm. You can name a lot more teams who deserved a bid who were left out.
    Never said it was the norm. What I did say is that we will never be seriously considered for an at large if we continue to schedule our non conference games like Marlin has done. We must schedule better and WIN better games.

    I am not interested in UL being the norm; I want much better than that for my school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunProud View Post
    Don't forget the most important thing....more often than not, he wins those games.
    The NCAA committee chair just explained that MTSU did play p5 teams on the road this year, but they lost every game. That is why they did not get an at large bid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch0364 View Post
    And in none of those seasons would GSU have got an at large.

    Again I'm not disputing we need more consistency or progress. I am not going to be an ncaa or bust guy. Now if we dont make progress or show consistency next year I will not be happy.

    BUT we could very well win 20 games and be in an ncaa tourney or win 25 and not make a post season tourney. Both of those scenarios will have fans crapping on good seasons.
    At no time have I mentioned anything about an at large bid. My point in bringing up Georgia State is to simply illustrate their success in bringing in Hunter to change the culture and in four short seasons in the SBC he has 2 NCAA bids, 1 NIT bid, 2 SBC Tournament Championships and 1 Regular Season Championship. Marlin has gotten a pass for playing in the CIT and achieving mediocrity until 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IberiaCajun View Post
    The NCAA committee chair just explained that MTSU did play p5 teams on the road this year, but they lost every game. That is why they did not get an at large bid.
    That is a lie. They beat Vanderbilt and Ole Miss, and lost to USC, Auburn and Miami. All three losses were to top 35 teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch0364 View Post
    And in none of those seasons would GSU have got an at large.

    Again I'm not disputing we need more consistency or progress. I am not going to be an ncaa or bust guy. Now if we dont make progress or show consistency next year I will not be happy.

    BUT we could very well win 20 games and be in an ncaa tourney or win 25 and not make a post season tourney. Both of those scenarios will have fans crapping on good seasons.
    You're missing the bigger issue. Marlin is not even competitive against bigger programs. He is continually getting out coached and gets his ___ handed to him.

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