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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    LOL. Nobody thought we'd be worth a ____. We were picked 5th I believe in the preseason SBC poll and many of you guys were talking about baseball in November. The basketball team wasn't on many fans' radars earlier and the only talk about the MBB was about how Marlin has underperformed and is overpaid. You're right, nobody talked about this poll at all because we never would have been considered.
    So it should have been a high bench mark goal for a "mid-major" picked in the middle of its "mid-major" conference then right? "We want to win our conference, win the tourney and hopefully be number 1 in the "mid major poll" i never heard anyone say that...and god i hope i never do. We finally got Bob to shut up about 3 games in March.

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    Oh and these are the same people we have been paying to play in their tournaments in the "post season"


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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    Im talking about reality of seeing the same college coaches at our practices every year. We didn't always have kids they were interested in or kids that would consider them but they were there every year. We don't make less trips in recruiting, we actually have to hit more schools than the big boys do and more often because our shirt doesn't carry the weight theirs does. You really don't have a grasp on this. If our coaches are depending on this poll being what gets our name out there we are in a deep ___. Nobody gives a ___ about this poll except people with a small time loser mentality trying to grasp to anything that resembles success. It's a mind set that some of you have become accustomed to. Gonzaga and st Mary's are mid majors but MTSU, WKU,latech, UNT,FAU, and FIU are major? Great poll turbine. We are separating ourselves into second tier for them by acknowledging this.
    Wrong logical step,

    The perennial top-5 are deemed to be misplaced and are going to be considered first if basketball is in the equation for conference expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    So it should have been a high bench mark goal for a "mid-major" picked in the middle of its "mid-major" conference then right? "We want to win our conference, win the tourney and hopefully be number 1 in the "mid major poll" i never heard anyone say that...and god i hope i never do. We finally got Bob to shut up about 3 games in March.
    That's the problem with you guys. You take things to extremes. Nobody is saying anything about having that distinction as a goal for the program or the season. The poll isn't going anywhere. Its an unofficial deal that is only put together to stir discussion, which apparently its doing here. This is not a goal of anyone associated with this university or fanbase. Do you think it is? The staff is only using it on social media because its out there and its positive about our university and NO, its not us accepting mediocrity nor pushing for it. In basketball, mid major is a discussion and a real thing. You know what? Whenever we are talked about moving forward we will be discussed as a mid major by the major pundits whether we like it or not. But they will be talking about us at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Wrong logical step,

    The perennial top-5 are deemed to be misplaced and are going to be considered first if basketball is in the equation for conference expansion.
    Conference realignment based on the college insider mid major poll? A pay to play tournaments ranking? Ok man, you run with that. Hopefully next year we can win the Sunkist shootout

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    Conference realignment based on the college insider mid major poll? A pay to play tournaments ranking? Ok man, you run with that. Hopefully next year we can win the Sunkist shootout
    Hmmm? STM will take us out in the finals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    That's the problem with you guys. You take things to extremes. Nobody is saying anything about having that distinction as a goal for the program or the season. The poll isn't going anywhere. Its an unofficial deal that is only put together to stir discussion, which apparently its doing here. This is not a goal of anyone associated with this university or fanbase. Do you think it is? The staff is only using it on social media because its out there and its positive about our university and NO, its not us accepting mediocrity nor pushing for it. In basketball, mid major is a discussion and a real thing. You know what? Whenever we are talked about moving forward we will be discussed as a mid major by the major pundits whether we like it or not. But they will be talking about us at least.
    And that's the problem with you guys, you get offended when other people think out the box. Never said we asked to be removed, for people who keep up with this poll, great we are on it, they see it. For people and players who think it's a joke, they laugh when we promote it. I don't care what the pundits think,i care what level players we will be relegated to when we self label ourselves as a step below. We can't control what other people call is but we can control what we call ourselves. It desperation of a once storied program clinging to anything that seems relevant. We won't agree on this which is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeebart21 View Post
    Hmmm? STM will take us out in the finals.

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    At least we would be ranked 2nd

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    LOL. Nobody thought we'd be worth a ____. We were picked 5th I believe in the preseason SBC poll and many of you guys were talking about baseball in November. The basketball team wasn't on many fans' radars earlier and the only talk about the MBB was about how Marlin has underperformed and is overpaid. You're right, nobody talked about this poll at all because we never would have been considered.
    Don't lump all of us in the "nobody" crowd. Some of us who follow basketball closely knew better and knew this team would be "special".

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    Imagine if Mark hudspeth would have promoted our G5 ranking how that would have went over? Like a boner at a swim meet. You think baseball or softball would recognize a "midmajor" poll?


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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    That was in the 60's man. People still used lead based paint and smoked filterless cigarettes.
    Ahh, the good ole days 😏

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    That's the problem with you guys. You take things to extremes. Nobody is saying anything about having that distinction as a goal for the program or the season. The poll isn't going anywhere. Its an unofficial deal that is only put together to stir discussion, which apparently its doing here. This is not a goal of anyone associated with this university or fanbase. Do you think it is? The staff is only using it on social media because its out there and its positive about our university and NO, its not us accepting mediocrity nor pushing for it. In basketball, mid major is a discussion and a real thing. You know what? Whenever we are talked about moving forward we will be discussed as a mid major by the major pundits whether we like it or not. But they will be talking about us at least.
    I'm fine with fans and people in the league discussing it. Im not fine with our brand being tied to it, not fine with our official social media sites and coaches WANTING and pushing for it to be used as a talking point. Huge difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    Imagine if Mark hudspeth would have promoted our G5 ranking how that would have went over? Like a boner at a swim meet. You think baseball or softball would recognize a "midmajor" poll?
    You are jumping tracks.

    Mid Major is still Major.

    There are 1/3 the teams in major football as there are in basketball.

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    Okay. Deep breaths. Here's reality.

    In basketball we ARE a mid major. And we ARE in a mid major conference. Teams in this league haven't done enough to shed the distinction.

    This school is about to win its SECOND conference regular season title in TWENTY SEVEN years.
    There will come a time when we shed the distinction.

    That time hasn't happened yet.

    Being in a mid major poll is not going to kill our recruiting. Being in a mid major poll might get us scorn from bigger schools and bigger leagues, but we already get that.

    Some of you beat Gonzaga to death here. Guess what? We're right behind them in this poll.

    Who we are right now is not what we strive to be. But this poll isn't going to keep us from where we want to go.


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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    Im talking about reality of seeing the same college coaches at our practices every year. We didn't always have kids they were interested in or kids that would consider them but they were there every year. .
    You saw 300+ colleges a year recruiting at your school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    You are jumping tracks.

    Mid Major is still Major.

    There are 1/3 the teams in major football as there are in basketball.
    And football is the one sport we really are in a second tier, we really can't win a national championship. Nobody would tout being in the "mid major poll" by some random source. Our fans want to be in the top 25...the real top 25. We can be a Gonzaga or Wichita state but not if we keep reminding everyone we are second tier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    You saw 300+ colleges a year recruiting at your school?
    I saw the same coaches from the same schools every year. If it's your area as a coach, that's your area. If you drive all the way from Arkansas to the Acadiana area you are going to go see every coach you know even if he doesn't have a kid at that point. Why would you drive all that way and not go see your contacts? He may tell you about a kid that he knows about or played against at another school that you don't have connections at and get you in. Again, I don't think you have a grasp on how it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    I saw the same coaches from the same schools every year. If it's your area as a coach, that's your area. If you drive all the way from Arkansas to the Acadiana area you are going to go see every coach you know even if he doesn't have a kid at that point. Why would you drive all that way and not go see your contacts? He may tell you about a kid that he knows about or played against at another school that you don't have connections at and get you in. Again, I don't think you have a grasp on how it works.
    I don't think you have a grasp of how many hours there are in a day.

    As I said before, coach-on-coach base-touching is one thing. Seeing every coach is doable.

    Gathering up all the players to meet the recruiter is quite another. Pitt stop visits are not memorable for non producing players ... Unless your name pops up in a positive way, say a mid-major poll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    I don't think you have a grasp of how many hours there are in a day.

    As I said before, coach-on-coach base-touching is one thing. Seeing every coach is doable.

    Gathering up all the players to meet the recruiter is quite another. Pitt stop visits are not memorable for non producing players ... Unless your name pops up in a positive way, say a mid-major poll.
    Go walk into any gym, anywhere you want. High school, city park, reds wherever. Ask any kid if they have heard of the college insider mid major poll and look at their face. Not sure what you are talking about coach on coach touching or what kind of recruiting you witnessed growing up but i never saw that. I sure hope our coaches a pushing that we are receiving votes and pushing to break the top 25 instead of this other deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    Go walk into any gym, anywhere you want. High school, city park, reds wherever. Ask any kid if they have heard of the college insider mid major poll and look at their face. Not sure what you are talking about coach on coach touching or what kind of recruiting you witnessed growing up but i never saw that. I sure hope our coaches a pushing that we are receiving votes and pushing to break the top 25 instead of this other deal.
    I agree with the above.

    HS players probably won't be paying much attention beyond old school, at least not until they start getting recruited.

    Hopefully they hear your name organically besides "hello."

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