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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post

    WE ARE TWENTY THREE AND FOUR. CAN'T YOU ENJOY THAT???
    YES!

    Yes I can.

    I am so enjoying 23-4

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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    We aren't getting an at large bid. Don't know why it's being discussed.

    And can we have a day when we quit complaining about the selection committee, our strength of schedule and RPI BPI and all that?

    WE ARE TWENTY THREE AND FOUR. CAN'T YOU ENJOY THAT???
    Actually we can do both. Right now on Rick Neuheisel, and Andy Staples just finished a conversation about why 2/9 of last 11 Oklahoma and probably 2/10 after tonight deserves an at large bid. So yes we can brag and b-tch in the same paragraph.

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    Actually we can do both. Right now on Rick Neuheisel, and Andy Staples just finished a conversation about why 2/9 of last 11 Oklahoma and probably 2/10 after tonight deserves an at large bid. So yes we can brag and b-tch in the same paragraph.
    Just because the odds are very long against us getting an at-large does not mean things cant happen and we DO get one.
    Also, this is the time, place and venue for those discussions. Or not. Your choice. As CE pointed out "we can brag and b-tch in the same paragraph".

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    Default Re: MBB Final: Louisiana 100, UT Arlington 79

    At least, make a new paragraph...geez

    I kid, I don't care.


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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    We aren't getting an at large bid. Don't know why it's being discussed.

    And can we have a day when we quit complaining about the selection committee, our strength of schedule and RPI BPI and all that?

    WE ARE TWENTY THREE AND FOUR. CAN'T YOU ENJOY THAT???
    I enjoy it every day. But that doesn't keep me from asking why a program that finishes with 10 losses in its last 12 or 13 games deserves to be in the NCAA tourney when other programs finish the year on huge winning streaks AND have a reasonable RPI to boot.

    Alternately, I guess the argument is we should just STFU and know our place, right? That's not me.

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    Here is a thought..... In today's climate of social justice does it not surprise anybody that NCAA playoffs haven't been targeted more heavily? Let me make it clear that I'm not advocating for it but think about it for a second....

    I know it has been talked about before but what would the long term consequences be of not taking any team that finishes in the bottom half of their conference? Obviously this opens things up for the G5 conferences. Some of those teams start making multiple NCAA apperances and are then able to recruit better because of their performance. Does it start to level the playing field?

    This is supposed to be about amateur athletics right? It isn't about the money right (lol)?

    Like I said not advocating for this but it would be interesting......


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Actually we can do both. Right now on Rick Neuheisel, and Andy Staples just finished a conversation about why 2/9 of last 11 Oklahoma and probably 2/10 after tonight deserves an at large bid. So yes we can brag and b-tch in the same paragraph.
    Discussing the NCAA selection process does not mean we don't appreciate the success. It is simply pointing out how all the tools used benefit the power schools more than is deserved. The schedule aspect is the reason and the power schools take advantage by not playing non conference road games. I am pointing out the obvious but my view is let us prepare to win the tournament when that time comes. People here can help make that happen by planning to be in New Orleans that weekend if they don't have prior conflicts. Note the USA baseball series that weekend is not a conference affair that weekend so Basketball carries much more importance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunfanatico View Post
    I enjoy it every day. But that doesn't keep me from asking why a program that finishes with 10 losses in its last 12 or 13 games deserves to be in the NCAA tourney when other programs finish the year on huge winning streaks AND have a reasonable RPI to boot.

    Alternately, I guess the argument is we should just STFU and know our place, right? That's not me.
    Not suggesting anyone STFU. Although, i'm not sure what saying this on this board is going to do about changing the status quo.

    And, the status quo has been the same for a long time. In fact, it's getting even worse.

    Let's see how many mid majors get into the NCAA tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunfanatico View Post
    Okay, I know they're playing in the Top-rated conference in college basketball, I see that they've got a decent win or two along the way, but really, how many teams from a single conference really need to be in the tournament, 6 or 7?

    Rant over.
    If I were King, no team with a non-winning Conference record and finishing in the top half of their own Conference standings would be eligible to make the NCAA Tournament.

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    Default Re: MBB Final: Louisiana 100, UT Arlington 79

    Is there any possibility of cracking the Top 25 by season end?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunfanatico View Post
    Frustrating for me, and I'm sure most Cajun fans, that after such a fine season we're literally forced to win the conference tournament to get a ticket to the NCAA's.

    Now, check out Oklahoma.

    http://warrennolan.com/basketball/20...edule/Oklahoma

    RPI of 34, 6-8 in conference, lost 5 in a row, lost 8 out of their last 10, yet we have Joe Lunardi talking about what they need to do to get to the NCAA tournament.

    http://proxy.espn.com/videohub/video/clip/_/id/22491599

    Okay, I know they're playing in the Top-rated conference in college basketball, I see that they've got a decent win or two along the way, but really, how many teams from a single conference really need to be in the tournament, 6 or 7?

    Rant over.
    A decent win or two? USC, Wichita State, TCU (twice), Texas Tech, Kansas.

    The committee is much more likely to look at who you beat as opposed to where you finish in your league.

    And, that is why mid-majors need not apply.
    And, that is why ANY talk of an at large bid for us is silly. And, was silly before our loss to GA St.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    A decent win or two? USC, Wichita State, TCU (twice), Texas Tech, Kansas.

    The committee is much more likely to look at who you beat as opposed to where you finish in your league.

    And, that is why mid-majors need not apply.
    And, that is why ANY talk of an at large bid for us is silly. And, was silly before our loss to GA St.
    Okay, I get it. I'll just STFU and know my place. ___wipe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    Not suggesting anyone STFU. Although, i'm not sure what saying this on this board is going to do about changing the status quo.

    And, the status quo has been the same for a long time. In fact, it's getting even worse.

    Let's see how many mid majors get into the NCAA tournament.
    One to two at most will qualify. At least we are close to securing the NIT bid which will still give us a chance to play prominent programs in post season. This post does not mean I will be satisfied with only the regular season title. I know players desperately want the tournament title as well.

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    Default Re: MBB Final: Louisiana 100, UT Arlington 79

    i see gonzaga predicted around a 3-5 seed with a similar record to ours but a couple of spots lower in the RPI. i know its not the end all be all (RPI) but are they seeing that just because of their name?


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    Default Re: MBB Final: Louisiana 100, UT Arlington 79

    they have some good wins, im just surprised their RPI is that low


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    I was not going to comment in this thread, but if you want to know why you are not hearing our name from the folks speculating about at large bids here it is:

    1. We only played one Group 1 game and we got blown out.
    2. We only played two Group 2 games and lost both of them.
    3. Eleven of our 18 conference games will be Group 4, the remaining 7 are group 3.
    4. Our best win is Nicholls, a Group 3 game.
    5. The rest of our OOC schedule is 3 Group 3 and 4 Group 4 games, plus 2 non Division 1 games.

    That is a regular season total of 11 Group 3 and 15 Group 4 games; so 26 of our 29 D1 games. Nothing we can do about the Conference games except win them, but we need to schedule at least 2 or 3 more games against non conference teams we anticipate to be Group 1 or 2. A same season home and home with NMSU, had we scheduled one this year instead of McNeese and UNO would have helped greatly. We should be able to do that every year, given the leverage keeping them for football long term gives us.


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    Default Re: MBB Final: Louisiana 100, UT Arlington 79

    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxCajuns View Post
    they have some good wins, im just surprised their RPI is that low
    Their conference sucks almost as bad as ours, except the top three teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talktomewillis View Post
    A decent win or two? USC, Wichita State, TCU (twice), Texas Tech, Kansas.

    The committee is much more likely to look at who you beat as opposed to where you finish in your league.

    And, that is why mid-majors need not apply.
    And, that is why ANY talk of an at large bid for us is silly. And, was silly before our loss to GA St.
    Any talk of an at large bid for us was silly after our first loss, or at best after the Wyoming loss. We scheduled so few teams that were anticipated to be good that we needed to beat all of them to have a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    I was not going to comment in this thread, but if you want to know why you are not hearing our name from the folks speculating about at large bids here it is:

    1. We only played one Group 1 game and we got blown out.
    2. We only played two Group 2 games and lost both of them.
    3. Eleven of our 18 conference games will be Group 4, the remaining 7 are group 3.
    4. Our best win is Nicholls, a Group 3 game.
    5. The rest of our OOC schedule is 3 Group 3 and 4 Group 4 games, plus 2 non Division 1 games.

    That is a regular season total of 11 Group 3 and 15 Group 4 games; so 26 of our 29 D1 games. Nothing we can do about the Conference games except win them, but we need to schedule at least 2 or 3 more games against non conference teams we anticipate to be Group 1 or 2. A same season home and home with NMSU, had we scheduled one this year instead of McNeese and UNO would have helped greatly. We should be able to do that every year, given the leverage keeping them for football long term gives us.
    If you consider this seasons opponent's RPI's from last year, I think we tried to do it.

    Iowa ended last season with an 83 RPI, so the neutral court game against them would have been Group2.

    Tech ended last season with an 116 RPI, so the road game against them would have been a Group 2 game.

    Richmond ended last season with a 72 RPI, so the neutral court game against them would have been a Group 2 game.

    Ole Miss ended last season with a 68 RPI, so the road game against them would have been a Group 1 Game.

    Clemson ended last season with a 75 RPI, so the road game against them would have been a Group 1 Game. (which it was this year as well)

    This was less about our scheduling per se and more normally strong programs underperforming (e.g., Iowa, Richmond, Tech, and Ole Miss).

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