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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    Baseball is a top 50 program. Softball is a top 20 program. Basketball is barely top 175 as a program. If basketball scheduled and won like the stick and ball sports we would be packing the dome on a regular basis.
    Baseball, as published by D1baseball, is squarely in the top 30. And I'd argue we are top 25.

    Basketball.. over the last 5 years, IMO, is Top 100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Baseball, as published by D1baseball, is squarely in the top 30. And I'd argue we are top 25.

    Basketball.. over the last 5 years, IMO, is Top 100.
    Not close to a top 100 in any year, so maybe as a cumulative where the sum of the parts exceeded individual seasons.

    This year is definitely different, but we've still got to go undefeated in conference all the way to the big dance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Baseball, as published by D1baseball, is squarely in the top 30. And I'd argue we are top 25.

    Basketball.. over the last 5 years, IMO, is Top 100.
    The 5 years prior to this year our mean RPI is 139.2, with only our NCAA year being better than 100 ( it was 89). Over all better than I thought, but still closer to 175 than to 100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    No, Mike. We are not. We may be a top 50 team this year, but as a program we are still 175ish. There is a reason Gonzaga and St. Mary's are bubble teams with RPI similar to ours and we are not. That reason is that they perform at this level or better every year, and we do not. In fact, there is no visible proof that we are deserving THIS year; as 12 of our 19 wins are against teams with RPI of 200 or worse, and 2 are against non-d1 opponents. That leaves only 5 wins against the top 200, none of which are over a top 100 team.

    The players are not at fault; they can only play the teams on the schedule. To some degree, even the coaches are not at fault, as it can be difficult to know how good the teams you schedule will be. I still maintain that the coaches could do a better job of OOC scheduling, but I don't think they will.

    You are correct that if we sustain this level of success attendance and perception will improve; but our scheduling OOC must improve as well, and we must win some of those games against top 50 and top 100 teams.
    You are correct that we are not a Top 50 team yet with our RPI at 55. I was thinking in the 50's. vs Top 50. We may now be in the Top 50 of the BPI but I don't know where we rank there. However if we keep winning we can move into RPI Top 50 which is in the 40's. I suspect we will play more name programs in the future but my belief is they will generally be road games. Time to win some of those. We can get a chance at a name program this year if we win the regular season or tournament. That will put us either in the NIT or NCAA tourney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    The 5 years prior to this year our mean RPI is 139.2, with only our NCAA year being better than 100 ( it was 89). Over all better than I thought, but still closer to 175 than to 100.

    Once we factor in this season, our mean RPI could be closer to 100 than 175 for the 5 year running average. Reason for that is 2013 was a losing season and 2018 could be the best of our 5 straight winning seasons. Of course at our level, one loss kills you. Have to stay focused and I am confident our guys will do that. However ULM will be a tough one come Saturday as they are a different team at home and I guarantee they recall the butt whipping we gave them here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    The 5 years prior to this year our mean RPI is 139.2, with only our NCAA year being better than 100 ( it was 89). Over all better than I thought, but still closer to 175 than to 100.
    I was factoring in our tourney year and this year.. You know, like a handicap in golf..

    You can shoot 100 almost every time out; shoot 78 one time and you're ____ed 😂

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    If the basketball team made the tourney 4 times in the last 5 years with 2 trips to the sweet 16 and finished number one in the country, would you consider our basketball as competing for a national championship?
    No, Not really. While making the tourney more consistently and actually winning some games is a progressional step, there are a number of teams that have done that in basketball in recent years. I think semantics would decide how you refer to their run. Sweet Sixteens is, IMO, not necessarily competing for a national title but I guess you could argue that every team begins the season competing for national titles. I assume you are referring to the baseball team when you mention those results, how did we finish #1 in the country by not even making the CWS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    No, Not really. While making the tourney more consistently and actually winning some games is a progressional step, there are a number of teams that have done that in basketball in recent years. I think semantics would decide how you refer to their run. Sweet Sixteens is, IMO, not necessarily competing for a national title but I guess you could argue that every team begins the season competing for national titles. I assume you are referring to the baseball team when you mention those results, how did we finish #1 in the country by not even making the CWS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    No, Not really. While making the tourney more consistently and actually winning some games is a progressional step, there are a number of teams that have done that in basketball in recent years. I think semantics would decide how you refer to their run. Sweet Sixteens is, IMO, not necessarily competing for a national title but I guess you could argue that every team begins the season competing for national titles. I assume you are referring to the baseball team when you mention those results, how did we finish #1 in the country by not even making the CWS?
    I don't know, ask the people who ranked us. We will disagree that making the sweet 16 twice in 5 years is the same as every team begins the season competing for a national title, it's not. Right now we are 1 special team away from even getting in the tournament in basketball, the baseball team is one special team away from winning it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    No, Not really. While making the tourney more consistently and actually winning some games is a progressional step, there are a number of teams that have done that in basketball in recent years. I think semantics would decide how you refer to their run. Sweet Sixteens is, IMO, not necessarily competing for a national title but I guess you could argue that every team begins the season competing for national titles. I assume you are referring to the baseball team when you mention those results, how did we finish #1 in the country by not even making the CWS?
    Not competing (NC) is any team outside of the 4 team playoff in football.

    Sweet 16 in baseball is slam dunk competing in the National championship discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Not competing (NC) is any team outside of the 4 team playoff in football.

    Sweet 16 in baseball is slam dunk competing in the National championship discussion.
    How did the NCAA lose control of FBS football enabling it to become the only NCAA sport not declared an NCAA champion, now with a 4 team playoff instead of an NCAA tournament format?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonCajun View Post
    How did the NCAA lose control of FBS football enabling it to become the only NCAA sport not declared an NCAA champion, now with a 4 team playoff instead of an NCAA tournament format?
    It's been a convoluted ride but the first bowl game predated the NCAA

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    They never had control of this. It's hard to lose what you never owned. Now with the P5 being autonomous they cannot put the genie back into the bottle.


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    This debate is easy to settle. Take person who knows of our university and casually follows college sports. Ask him about our teams. It will go something like this:
    Baseball- UL always has a good team. That coach is great. They can compete with anyone.
    Softball- UL always has a good team. They can compete with anyone, but what's the deal with the coach?
    Basketball - Man I remember y'all used to be good. What happened? I hear you have a good team this year.
    Football - y'all suck. I can't believe you are paying that much for coaches. How is it possible that you are not even top 3 in the state of Louisiana.

    By my count that makes two Top 25 programs, one Top 100 program and an FBS football program still struggling for relevancy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MetryCajun View Post
    This debate is easy to settle. Take person who knows of our university and casually follows college sports. Ask him about our teams. It will go something like this:
    Baseball- UL always has a good team. That coach is great. They can compete with anyone.
    Softball- UL always has a good team. They can compete with anyone, but what's the deal with the coach?
    Basketball - Man I remember y'all used to be good. What happened? I hear you have a good team this year.
    Football - y'all suck. I can't believe you are paying that much for coaches. How is it possible that you are not even top 3 in the state of Louisiana.

    By my count that makes two Top 25 programs, one Top 100 program and an FBS football program still struggling for relevancy.
    That is probably what most people would say outside of Acadiana. That gives an opportunity to educate them that we have eighth best record in country this time in basketball. Also tell them the program has been trending upward recently as this will be our fifth straight winning season. Tell them only La Tech can mAtch that in Louisiana and we have beaten the Bulldogs four out of five. Football wise tell them our recent facility upgrades put us near the top of the G5 in that regard. That gives us optimism recruiting and the record will soon improve under a staff that has more Louisiana connections than the previous one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    I don't know, ask the people who ranked us. We will disagree that making the sweet 16 twice in 5 years is the same as every team begins the season competing for a national title, it's not. Right now we are 1 special team away from even getting in the tournament in basketball, the baseball team is one special team away from winning it all.
    I know I may be looking at it from a literal angle but I see difference between competing on a national level and competing for national championships as slightly different. I know what was meant by the statement but until we are advancing to the CWS, I will see a difference between the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    I know I may be looking at it from a literal angle but I see difference between competing on a national level and competing for national championships as slightly different. I know what was meant by the statement but until we are advancing to the CWS, I will see a difference between the two.
    Coastal Carolina was on a very similar path, then some young talent with good leadership and they made a run and won a title. You keep getting to supers you are staying close enough to make a run. Getting in the field of 64 once every 7 years...you aren't making a run at anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetryCajun View Post
    This debate is easy to settle. Take person who knows of our university and casually follows college sports. Ask him about our teams. It will go something like this:
    Baseball- UL always has a good team. That coach is great. They can compete with anyone.
    Softball- UL always has a good team. They can compete with anyone, but what's the deal with the coach?
    Basketball - Man I remember y'all used to be good. What happened? I hear you have a good team this year.
    Football - y'all suck. I can't believe you are paying that much for coaches. How is it possible that you are not even top 3 in the state of Louisiana.

    By my count that makes two Top 25 programs, one Top 100 program and an FBS football program still struggling for relevancy.
    Chamblee is right again.. You are on a roll

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetryCajun View Post
    This debate is easy to settle. Take person who knows of our university and casually follows college sports. Ask him about our teams. It will go something like this:
    Baseball- UL always has a good team. That coach is great. They can compete with anyone.
    Softball- UL always has a good team. They can compete with anyone, but what's the deal with the coach?
    Basketball - Man I remember y'all used to be good. What happened? I hear you have a good team this year.
    Football - y'all suck. I can't believe you are paying that much for coaches. How is it possible that you are not even top 3 in the state of Louisiana.

    By my count that makes two Top 25 programs, one Top 100 program and an FBS football program still struggling for relevancy.
    Here is some data indicating how special the season has been to date.

    Louisiana is the only school in the country ranked in the top 25 in the following categories: Scoring Margin (8th, +15.2), assists per game (8th, 17.8), won-lost % (t-8th, .864), rebound margin (t-13th, 7.5), steals per game (t-17th, 8.4) and scoring offense (22nd, 83.9).

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    It is hard to not be impressed. Wished they had beat Ole Miss. I think that win would have grabbed people's attention.


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