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    Default Softball illegal pitch

    No base award any longer on illegal pitch call, unless it makes it ball four.

    Maybe not ot? Pleas advise....


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    Finally


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    the penalty is too harsh for an illegal pitch. i hope the rule is changed. when the rule was created, the rules committee decided that an illegal pitch was an equivalent to a balk, and thus the runners should advance, like in baseball. a balk is a move that may deceive the base runner. an illegal pitch in softball doesn't deceive the base runner one iota and thus doesn't justify the runners advancing in my book unless it creates ball four and the runners are forced.


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    Default Re: OT: softball illegal pitch

    I don't know if any other rule has had a more negative impact on our postseason success than the illegal pitch. They always seemed to "mysteriously" crop up during Super Regionals and the WCWS.


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    LOL Now that we got rid of the coach that was teaching our pitchers to crow hop, they change the rule. Fantastic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jllanclos View Post
    LOL Now that we got rid of the coach that was teaching our pitchers to crow hop, they change the rule. Fantastic.
    Bump

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    I was thinking the same thing.


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    Because the call, so often, is subjective it should go as a non pitch much like the non subjective net ball in tennis. I can live with that unless the batter actually gets a hit in which case should ignore the call all together


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    Man...didn't that call cost is a Super at Michigan a few years back? Thanks, NCAA!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Buds View Post
    Man...didn't that call cost is a Super at Michigan a few years back? Thanks, NCAA!
    Illegal pitch called, batter puts one over the wall for a walk-off homer to win the WCWS......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frenchie35 View Post
    Illegal pitch called, batter puts one over the wall for a walk-off homer to win the WCWS......
    Since the illegal pitch favors the pitcher, I'd have no problem with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Since the illegal pitch favors the pitcher, I'd have no problem with it.
    Didn't make myself clear. If the illegal pitch is a no pitch and called a ball and by rule if you have a runner on base they advance. If you had a runner on third, the winning run, by rule she comes in, game over. Is that correct? But in a HR scenario, she hits one over the wall on a illegal pitch, no one on base, what's the rule?

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    Old way or new, it is a delayed dead ball. Batter can hit it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Frenchie35 View Post
    Didn't make myself clear. If the illegal pitch is a no pitch and called a ball and by rule if you have a runner on base they advance. If you had a runner on third, the winning run, by rule she comes in, game over. Is that correct? But in a HR scenario, she hits one over the wall on a illegal pitch, no one on base, what's the rule?
    I'm assuming you understood that the an illegal pitch will no longer advance the runner from the start of this thread. In your HR scenario, it's a HR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunAmos View Post
    I'm assuming you understood that the an illegal pitch will no longer advance the runner from the start of this thread. In your HR scenario, it's a HR.
    I understood, I was talking about the old rule. Would an illegal pitch negate a walk-off HR? I brought it up because I have never seen this happen or thought of it. This would bring the fans of a possible winning HR out of the stands in a riot mode. Especially in a WCWS championship game......

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    If the result of the illegal pitch favors the offense, the batting team can certainly take that result. i.e. hit a double or HR or even a single with a runner scoring from 2nd....


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    Has the rule really been changed? I cannot find anything on the google.


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    [QUOTE=TonaldDrump;1046994]Has the rule really been changed? I cannot find anything on the google.

    This is the specific rule change.

    q. Illegal Pitch (Rule 10.8).
    (1) Recommendation. Change the standard effect of an illegal pitch to a ball on the batter only. Base runners will no longer advance one base unless forced because the batter is awarded first base when hit by an illegal pitch not swung at or ball four is an illegal pitch.
    (2) Effective date. Immediately.
    (3) Rationale. An illegal pitch has no effect on a base runner in softball since they cannot leave the base until the pitch is released. The committee felt that awarding a ball on the batter and a one-base advance for any runner was an excessive penalty on the pitcher's illegal action.
    (4) Estimated budget impact. None.
    (5) Student-athlete impact. None.


    This is the NCAA PDF link to all the rule changes for the 2018-2019 seasons.

    http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/fi...s_20170817.pdf


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    Good rule changes.


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    Default Re: Softball illegal pitch

    For those who really get into all the rules of the game, you can download the complete 2018-2019 rule book in three different formats for free at the link below.

    http://www.ncaapublications.com/p-45...all-rules.aspx


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