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    If you are going to play DII schools, call them what they are: exhibition games, and do not make it part of the season ticket package.

    They are just practice games that can only kill your Tourney chances.


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    Zero resistance exercise can serve a purpose.

    Not exactly sure what that purpose would be.

    Meeting a brick wall to start a season would be more detrimental in my opinion.

    I have seen the season long bad results of facing an immovable object right out of the gate in football way to many years.

    I'd opt for a zero resistance opener in basketball to get the team on the same page.

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    So Turbine? Is there a barrier that's something other than a ten foot brick wall, or a ten foot limbo bar? Maybe a three foot hurdle requiring effort and reward.

    As stated before we'd get better competition in a red and white game. We'd get a better reward playing and losing to a top 150 RPI team on the road. The only thing we got out of this game was time to practice at home.

    Frankly I'd have preferred practice at home, and a road game in Florida against top competition maybe Thursday. That way the team would be rested when they get to the islands, have a meaningful game that Marlin could use to teach.


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    So Turbine? Is there a barrier that's something other than a ten foot brick wall, or a ten foot limbo bar? Maybe a three foot hurdle requiring effort and reward.

    As stated before we'd get better competition in a red and white game. We'd get a better reward playing and losing to a top 150 RPI team on the road. The only thing we got out of this game was time to practice at home.

    Frankly I'd have preferred practice at home, and a road game in Florida against top competition maybe Thursday. That way the team would be rested when they get to the islands, have a meaningful game that Marlin could use to teach.
    Note we do have a home game against a D1 opponent on Friday afternoon. That would make it tough to play on Thursday in Florida. One of the reasons they play a couple of games like last night is to avoid playing 13 home games and 18 road games. That would result in the additional travel impacting class time and academics. It also allows some of the backup guys who don't play much to get time in a real game. Still, I understand the view that these games should not have regular prices charged. Perhaps they should be half price in the season ticket package. This discussion about the non D1 teams on the schedule happens every year and all views are valid. At this point virtually all the comments have been made before and we are repeating ourselves. Keep in mind that although the basketball staff makes the schedule the new AD was here when it was finalized and he approved it. Therefore I would be shocked if the policy changes going forward. Not that it matters to our situation but several mid majors are now playing 3 non D1 games (Rice amongst them) in order to have a few non conference home games.

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    Sorry, that was a typo. He surely can stroke it. He is one of the smoothest shooters I have ever seen
    So which one of you ___ clowns gave me a red thumb for an obvious auto correct typo?

    You seriously think I would single out one of our best shooters in a very long time by saying he can't shoot? Yeah right. He is the real deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Zero resistance exercise can serve a purpose.

    Not exactly sure what that purpose would be.

    Meeting a brick wall to start a season would be more detrimental in my opinion.

    I have seen the season long bad results of facing an immovable object right out of the gate in football way to many years.

    I'd opt for a zero resistance opener in basketball to get the team on the same page.

    jmo
    Kentucky played Kansas. Duke played Michigan State. Those brick walls are tearing those programs down. I got to tell you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by facelessjonmoon View Post
    So which one of you ___ clowns gave me a red thumb for an obvious auto correct typo?

    You seriously think I would single out one of our best shooters in a very long time by saying he can't shoot? Yeah right. He is the real deal
    Wasn't me pads. I don't even do the green dot red dot thing. It is a shame that someone would do that though. I figured as such when you posted it but wanted to make sure.

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    Note we do have a home game against a D1 opponent on Friday afternoon. That would make it tough to play on Thursday in Florida. One of the reasons they play a couple of games like last night is to avoid playing 13 home games and 18 road games. That would result in the additional travel impacting class time and academics. It also allows some of the backup guys who don't play much to get time in a real game. Still, I understand the view that these games should not have regular prices charged. Perhaps they should be half price in the season ticket package. This discussion about the non D1 teams on the schedule happens every year and all views are valid. At this point virtually all the comments have been made before and we are repeating ourselves. Keep in mind that although the basketball staff makes the schedule the new AD was here when it was finalized and he approved it. Therefore I would be shocked if the policy changes going forward. Not that it matters to our situation but several mid majors are now playing 3 non D1 games (Rice amongst them) in order to have a few non conference home games.
    No explanation needed Mike as we've gone over this for a long time and you've explained it for a long time. Some will never not ____ and moan about playing these teams although it apparently is tougher and tougher for the mid major types to get quality opponents to play them at home now. I was watching the UNC - Bucknell game last night and they were talking about how Bucknell has to travel from Arkansas, UNC and then play Maryland all in an 8 day stretch. Teams like this fight the same issues we face. It doesn't help justify the season ticket prices, I get it but its not just our program.

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    Kentucky played Kansas. Duke played Michigan State. Those brick walls are tearing those programs down. I got to tell you.
    At this point in time the matchups you mentioned are not brick walls for them. It could be for a team trying to find itself.

    The team that didn't learn a thing the other night (or knows not what to address first) is Louisiana College.

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    No explanation needed Mike as we've gone over this for a long time and you've explained it for a long time. Some will never not ____ and moan about playing these teams although it apparently is tougher and tougher for the mid major types to get quality opponents to play them at home now. I was watching the UNC - Bucknell game last night and they were talking about how Bucknell has to travel from Arkansas, UNC and then play Maryland all in an 8 day stretch. Teams like this fight the same issues we face. It doesn't help justify the season ticket prices, I get it but its not just our program.
    One more point on this, hAd we played on the road tonight in Florida, the guys would have missed an additional 3 days of class. They are already missing 3 days next week and their 11 AM class on Friday due to the early game. They do factor the academic situation into the scheduling process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Note we do have a home game against a D1 opponent on Friday afternoon. That would make it tough to play on Thursday in Florida. One of the reasons they play a couple of games like last night is to avoid playing 13 home games and 18 road games. That would result in the additional travel impacting class time and academics. It also allows some of the backup guys who don't play much to get time in a real game. Still, I understand the view that these games should not have regular prices charged. Perhaps they should be half price in the season ticket package. This discussion about the non D1 teams on the schedule happens every year and all views are valid. At this point virtually all the comments have been made before and we are repeating ourselves. Keep in mind that although the basketball staff makes the schedule the new AD was here when it was finalized and he approved it. Therefore I would be shocked if the policy changes going forward. Not that it matters to our situation but several mid majors are now playing 3 non D1 games (Rice amongst them) in order to have a few non conference home games.
    You're missing the point. I'd have not scheduled either La College or Savanna State. We'd do better practicing instead of La College, and AGAIN try to get a top 150 RPI game in Florida instead. Benefits us with rest and respect. I'd definitely not feel cheated not seeing either of those games in the dome.

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    You're missing the point. I'd have not scheduled either La College or Savanna State. We'd do better practicing instead of La College, and AGAIN try to get a top 150 RPI game in Florida instead. Benefits us with rest and respect. I'd definitely not feel cheated not seeing either of those games in the dome.
    You would be relived of your scheduling duties if you followed through on that. What you are suggesting is done by no one.

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    What not schedule two worthless games and replace it with one that actually helps build a team. Lots of schools have many more road games than home games.

    Regardless these two games serve zero value.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    What not schedule two worthless games and replace it with one that actually helps build a team. Lots of schools have many more road games than home games.

    Regardless these two games serve zero value.
    Note Savannah State is a D1 team that shoots lots of threes. They are a HBCU which you may equate to Southern in our state. There are SBC teams that play the same way so it may have some benefit. While a game against a higher quality opponent on the road would likely help the team, it would impact class time which is a factor. Playing on the road late this week would have meant 6 straight days of classes missed which is way too many by most people's standards. Also, not playing at home Friday or any non D1 games would mean 12 home games and 19 road games. Yes there are schools that do that but our staff is not willing to for the reasons of too much travel and too much class time missed. That won't change anytime soon in my view. Who knows what the view of the next staff will be on that front but the current staff will be here until at least 2020 unless something completely unforeseen happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    Kentucky played Kansas. Duke played Michigan State. Those brick walls are tearing those programs down. I got to tell you.
    Not exactly the same topic but did you notice both games were neutral site? Its gotten so bad that it is rare for the big boys to play a true road game outside of conference. It seems the only thing they are willing to do is play neutral site against schools that are perennial contenders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    Not exactly the same topic but did you notice both games were neutral site? Its gotten so bad that it is rare for the big boys to play a true road game outside of conference. It seems the only thing they are willing to do is play neutral site against schools that are perennial contenders.
    Northern Iowa has home games this year with Iowa State and Xavier, two high majors. They also finish a home and home with North Carolina, but that is on the road this year. I don't want to hear excuses, I want to see results.

    They also have games at neutral sites with SMU, a PAC 12 team and an ACC team, a road game vs Wisconsin and a home game with UTA (RPI 44 last year).

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    Northern Iowa has home games this year with Iowa State and Xavier, two high majors. They also finish a home and home with North Carolina, but that is on the road this year. I don't want to hear excuses, I want to see results.
    I didn't say it NEVER happens but it doesn't take much looking around to figure out it has become much rarer than in years past.

    Add to that the fact that Northern Iowa has made 7 NCAA tournament appearances since 2004. They defeated Texas in the first round of the 2016 NCAA Tournament before falling to Texas A&M in double overtime in the second round. During the 2015-16 regular season, UNI defeated then-No. 1 North Carolina, then-No. 5 Iowa State and Washington State in their non-conference season and won at then-No. 25 Wichita State in conference play. That is a fairly strong run and thus teams like Iowa State & Xavier don't see them as being as big of a risk to schedule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    I didn't say it NEVER happens but it doesn't take much looking around to figure out it has become much rarer than in years past.

    Add to that the fact that Northern Iowa has made 7 NCAA tournament appearances since 2004. They defeated Texas in the first round of the 2016 NCAA Tournament before falling to Texas A&M in double overtime in the second round. During the 2015-16 regular season, UNI defeated then-No. 1 North Carolina, then-No. 5 Iowa State and Washington State in their non-conference season and won at then-No. 25 Wichita State in conference play. That is a fairly strong run and thus teams like Iowa State & Xavier don't see them as being as big of a risk to schedule.
    And how did they get to "not be a risk"? By playing challenging schedules ooc, thereby making their team more attractive to both recruits and future opponents. It ain't chicken and egg. Clearly you have to play a tougher schedule both to be perceived as better and to actually get better.

    If you want to be perceived as a risk to better programs, you schedule Nichols and McNeese and Savannah State. You also don't get better by playing those kinds of teams.

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    You're missing the point. I'd have not scheduled either La College or Savanna State. We'd do better practicing instead of La College, and AGAIN try to get a top 150 RPI game in Florida instead. Benefits us with rest and respect. I'd definitely not feel cheated not seeing either of those games in the dome.
    You do need to try to field a home court schedule do you not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    Not exactly the same topic but did you notice both games were neutral site? Its gotten so bad that it is rare for the big boys to play a true road game outside of conference. It seems the only thing they are willing to do is play neutral site against schools that are perennial contenders.
    Duke is absolutely the worst about this. They have done this for some time. This tournament style thing has caught on and more teams do it. UNC and Kentucky have played home and home in the past as well as UNC and Texas. Some of the big teams still play tough away games though but its just a less common occurrence now.

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