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    Quote Originally Posted by basinbear View Post
    Just like Bugs Bunny......seriously guys, it going to be ok. Obviously not easy on anyone right now but the program will get through this. Support the program. We have our season tickets and we are going to that stadium to cheer our girls on.
    With all due seriousness, do we have an idea of how many will stay with the program? Is there a danger in having trouble fielding a team in the spring?

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    Do I know how many will stay? No. Do I believe the majority of these ladies will stay? Yes.


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    Do I know how many will stay? No. Do I believe the majority of these ladies will stay? Yes.
    I think you are right, and even under normal transitions there is often player drift.

    I don't remember Hud losing any players but Marlin lost players when taking over from Robert Lee.

    You could probably tell stories in both directions of players coming and going with coaching transitions.

    I suspect a lot of what happens will be influenced by how good of a communicator the next coach is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    With all due seriousness, do we have an idea of how many will stay with the program? Is there a danger in having trouble fielding a team in the spring?
    I doubt we will have trouble fielding a team we might not have as many studs but plenty of girls will stay or transfer in to get a chance to start

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    Do we know how many were supposed to sign?

    If so did they sign else where or will they wait to see who will be the next coach?


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    Quote Originally Posted by basinbear View Post
    Do I know how many will stay? No. Do I believe the majority of these ladies will stay? Yes.
    I hope so. We need to get a new coach (the right coach) very soon. I think that might make a big difference.

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    Jay Walker spent the beginning of his show yesterday talking about the softball program. He explained fully, the university's position on letting the girls leave if they so choose. He also said that nothing would take place until after the end of the semester, and by then we'd have a new coach in place who should get to meet with the players before any decisions are made. His opinion was that we'd probably lose SOME players, but it wouldn't be the "mass exodus" that was being talked about the day of the firing.
    He also went on to say that he purchased season tickets for softball to support the young ladies who choose to stay, and hoped that most fans would, as well, and made a big point of saying that our team should want to play for the "LOUISIANA" or "RAGIN CAJUNS" on the chest, NOT "Lotief" or whoever, and hoped that our fans will feel the same......

    Let's hope that Dr. Maggard's first hire will be a good one!


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    Jay Walker spent the beginning of his show yesterday talking about the softball program. He explained fully, the university's position on letting the girls leave if they so choose. He also said that nothing would take place until after the end of the semester, and by then we'd have a new coach in place who should get to meet with the players before any decisions are made. His opinion was that we'd probably lose SOME players, but it wouldn't be the "mass exodus" that was being talked about the day of the firing.
    He also went on to say that he purchased season tickets for softball to support the young ladies who choose to stay, and hoped that most fans would, as well, and made a big point of saying that our team should want to play for the "LOUISIANA" or "RAGIN CAJUNS" on the chest, NOT "Lotief" or whoever, and hoped that our fans will feel the same......

    Let's hope that Dr. Maggard's first hire will be a good one!
    In most cases I really don't care what Jay Walker has to say period. But in this case what he stated sounds reasonable. The number of athletes requesting to be released was around 7 or 8 the last I heard. In that number supposedly are both All -Americans and the program's top pitcher returning from last season. So no changes ever take place without some pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barisaxman View Post
    Jay Walker spent the beginning of his show yesterday talking about the softball program. He explained fully, the university's position on letting the girls leave if they so choose. He also said that nothing would take place until after the end of the semester, and by then we'd have a new coach in place who should get to meet with the players before any decisions are made. His opinion was that we'd probably lose SOME players, but it wouldn't be the "mass exodus" that was being talked about the day of the firing.
    He also went on to say that he purchased season tickets for softball to support the young ladies who choose to stay, and hoped that most fans would, as well, and made a big point of saying that our team should want to play for the "LOUISIANA" or "RAGIN CAJUNS" on the chest, NOT "Lotief" or whoever, and hoped that our fans will feel the same......

    Let's hope that Dr. Maggard's first hire will be a good one!
    So lets say that we hire someone by Dec 1st, and they hold them until mid December. Softball season opens early Feb. Is there many options left to transfer?

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    The silliest part of the whole thing is that no single coach or player is above this program. We have been a dominate program for 25+ years. If kids want to go and transfer them fine. Transfer, but remember there is no fan base like ours. There is no atmosphere like ours. It was that way before the Lotiefs and it will be that way long after.

    So by all means, transfer out and forget about the program that gave you the opportunity. There are no greener pastures than what we offer.


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    The silliest part of the whole thing is that no single coach or player is above this program. We have been a dominate program for 25+ years. If kids want to go and transfer them fine. Transfer, but remember there is no fan base like ours. There is no atmosphere like ours. It was that way before the Lotiefs and it will be that way long after.

    So by all means, transfer out and forget about the program that gave you the opportunity. There are no greener pastures than what we offer.
    There's a lot for them to think about. I guarantee you that they could and would welcome a new coaching staff... and flourish as a team.

    If Michael's health had forced him to leave last or this year, all would have stayed under a new coach. There had to be space in the sisterhood that Mike did not belong. There has to be a bond among athletes that transcends the coaches.

    I wonder what piranha coaches out there are already taking advantage of this and are poaching on some of our athletes.

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    LSU has already offered DJ


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    So lets say that we hire someone by Dec 1st, and they hold them until mid December. Softball season opens early Feb. Is there many options left to transfer?
    We don't KNOW what the "options" to transfer are—it will depend on WHERE each player thinks they want to go. What we DO know is that these are very good students, who I would assume plan to graduate eventually from college. What Jay speculated, and I tend to agree with is they will complete their semester to get their credits, and then see if a university that they'd like to transfer to would ACCEPT their credits towards graduation. If they're so emotionally distraught as to throw this semester (academically) down the drain, so be it. Hopefully a new coach will be in place soon so decisions can be made as quickly as possible......

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    LSU has already offered DJ
    She could go anywhere she wanted. I really like DJ. It seriously bums me out to think that she might not stay.

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    No one is leaving till the semester is over, lots of time to re-recruit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    The silliest part of the whole thing is that no single coach or player is above this program. We have been a dominate program for 25+ years. If kids want to go and transfer them fine. Transfer, but remember there is no fan base like ours. There is no atmosphere like ours. It was that way before the Lotiefs and it will be that way long after.

    So by all means, transfer out and forget about the program that gave you the opportunity. There are no greener pastures than what we offer.
    I totally agree with you.

    But, just to maybe see another side of it. If you worked for a company and you see upper management totally mistreat and fire a coworker, on trumped up charges, who you know very well and you know for sure he was giving 100% and producing outstanding results. You may consider the next opertunity with another job if one came along right after seeing that.

    I'm not sayin this is exactly the case here, but it may be perceived that way by some.

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    I think those who perceive something broken was fixed will want to stay. Those who feel something just got broken will want to leave.

    UNLESS, the new coach can sell a new "fix" to all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alum81 View Post
    I totally agree with you.

    But, just to maybe see another side of it. If you worked for a company and you see upper management totally mistreat and fire a coworker, on trumped up charges, who you know very well and you know for sure he was giving 100% and producing outstanding results. You may consider the next opertunity with another job if one came along right after seeing that.

    I'm not sayin this is exactly the case here, but it may be perceived that way by some.
    I went through a coaching change here and it was a disaster. I know both sides of it. I made the wrong choice when I was a 2 sport athlete here. I'm speaking from experience, not hypotheticals.

    This university is like no other. Especially when you are talking about baseball and softball. They may be able to go somewhere else and excel but they won't get the same experience as they had here. Just ask other athletes that have transferred into the program. It's the fans and culture not the coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    I think you are right, and even under normal transitions there is often player drift.

    I don't remember Hud losing any players but Marlin lost players when taking over from Robert Lee.

    You could probably tell stories in both directions of players coming and going with coaching transitions.

    I suspect a lot of what happens will be influenced by how good of a communicator the next coach is.
    Think Habetz could bring some in in addition to keeping nearly all!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alum81 View Post
    I totally agree with you.

    But, just to maybe see another side of it. If you worked for a company and you see upper management totally mistreat and fire a coworker, on trumped up charges, who you know very well and you know for sure he was giving 100% and producing outstanding results. You may consider the next opertunity with another job if one came along right after seeing that.

    I'm not sayin this is exactly the case here, but it may be perceived that way by some.
    Nonsense! Screw your former friend and coworker! Right after I got off the phone wishing him all the best... I'd run right into the boss's office and tell him how much of a tool that former coworker was. You never ever pass up the opportunity to angle for a raise and a promotion! Come on man!

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