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Thread: The 'ending' of the Michael Lotief era

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun Monkee View Post
    UL has previously turned its back on legal issues concerning Mike?
    I have no idea concerning legal questions, but player allegations according them have been made in the past. And Dr. Savoie certainly could have terminated him for cause after he threatened Farmer with physical violence in his presence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    I hear he was told by Alden and Maggard to terminate him now, so your opinion doesn't sound like it's far off.
    Alden provided us with a consultant's report a year ago. At this juncture, why would Alden being making suggestions regarding personnel matters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    I hear he was told by Alden and Maggard to terminate him now, so your opinion doesn't sound like it's far off.
    Why on earth is Alden involved AT ALL? Is he like the defacto boss? AD by proxy? It's sad that something this egregious took Alden getting involved to make JS realize what needed to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jumboragncajun View Post
    Why on earth is Alden involved AT ALL? Is he like the defacto boss? AD by proxy? It's sad that something this egregious took Alden getting involved to make JS realize what needed to happen.
    He is still on retainer here in an advisory role. In this case, Maggard made a determination and Alden backed him, just a second opinion. Reportedly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun Monkee View Post
    Alden provided us with a consultant's report a year ago. At this juncture, why would Alden being making suggestions regarding personnel matters?
    Still here on retainer in an advisory role.

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    Lots of lurking going on. The Advertiser just out with an editorial questioning the timing of the termination. Wondering why this was not done long ago. RP driving the local news cycle....again.

    Editorial: No free pass for Lotief, but why UL's sudden change of heart?

    http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/o...art/830495001/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad04 View Post
    Lots of lurking going on. The Advertiser just out with an editorial questioning the timing of the termination. Wondering why this was not done long ago. RP driving the local news cycle....again.

    Editorial: No free pass for Lotief, but why UL's sudden change of heart?

    http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/o...art/830495001/
    Well their poll is to drive readership, but it's a question that begs for an answer and it's a fair one.

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    I'm going watch A League of Their Own, again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    I'm going watch A League of Their Own, again.
    There is a punch line in there somewhere, but I won't dare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad04 View Post
    There is a punch line in there somewhere, but I won't dare.
    Speaking of punch???
    http://nypost.com/2017/03/28/florida...shoving-match/

    If someone contacts opposing team in public, cant imagine how they treat their own team

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    Quote Originally Posted by 31Ragin97 View Post
    Speaking of punch???
    http://nypost.com/2017/03/28/florida...shoving-match/

    If someone contacts opposing team in public, cant imagine how they treat their own team
    Speaking of Auburn, wasn't that Gina Davis' hair color in A League of Their Own?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Speaking of Auburn, wasn't that Gina Davis' hair color in A League of Their Own?
    True!
    http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/concern...ry?id=50423933

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    At one point, Corey Myers allowed one of the players to temporarily live with his family at their house, an arrangement that a former ASU administrator described as "not a good practice."

    Everyone should quit their job and volunteer to afford a house.... So if clint provided more than 10000 of support for his 40 or so yr old son, wouldnt that be tax evasion for the son even if it doesnt violate ncaa regs for having too many paid coaches


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    Quote Originally Posted by 31Ragin97 View Post
    Lisa Love wasn't in the movie but Marla Hootch was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 31Ragin97 View Post
    Speaking of punch???
    http://nypost.com/2017/03/28/florida...shoving-match/

    If someone contacts opposing team in public, cant imagine how they treat their own team
    As Robe says, "Oh, there is no doubt".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad04 View Post
    As Robe says, "Oh, there is no doubt".
    Do you remember when robe was complaining about how all the new players were spoiled because of travel ball. Why was it exactly that was a problem for just UL? How did all the othet schools have a generation of players not from travel ball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 31Ragin97 View Post
    Do you remember when robe was complaining about how all the new players were spoiled because of travel ball. Why was it exactly that was a problem for just UL? How did all the othet schools have a generation of players not from travel ball?
    He has never restricted that statement to only his team. He says "kids today". He has even mentioned how he and other coaches talk about it all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Hemphill View Post
    I just read testimonials from several former players (Karli Hubbard, Holli Tankersly, Lacy Bertucci, Tiffany Hebert amongst others) attesting to Mike's character, how he molded them into successful women, how they knew that when he used salty language, it wasn't personal, etc. Many of these ladies are married and have children of their own and have successful careers. One would figure that due to their current status in life, they would not have any problems coming forward if they felt that Mike subjected them to abuse either verbal or physical. In a news story last night, KATC showed copies of emails and texts that Mike has purportedly sent over the years in regards to what he perceived to be gender equity issues. Did the current administration get so weary of Lotief's complaining that they are using this issue to rid themselves of someone they perceive as a trouble maker? I just don't know. Some are happy that Lotief has been fired and point to the evidence that the university has presented as the reason that he got fired. Others will read the testimonials about Lotief and look at his evidence and say that he got the shaft. I believe that the softball program will survive this in the long run, but that chaos will rule in the short term. I just hope that the players all take a step back and don't make any rash decisions based upon emotion.
    All players with significant playing time. Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 31Ragin97 View Post
    Do you remember when robe was complaining about how all the new players were spoiled because of travel ball. Why was it exactly that was a problem for just UL? How did all the othet schools have a generation of players not from travel ball?
    Plenty other coaches say the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 31Ragin97 View Post
    Do you remember when robe was complaining about how all the new players were spoiled because of travel ball. Why was it exactly that was a problem for just UL? How did all the othet schools have a generation of players not from travel ball?
    Robe's point is valid. Throwdown is an equalizer when your team has less raw talent.

    We are a mid-major and not as talented year in, year out as SEC, Big 12 clubs. The gap is narrowing with players like Lexie, BT, Hogan and Gunner, but the gap is there. Robe is spot on. Tulips will fold, talented or not.

    I have no doubt Mike believes the same. He simply went way too far.

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