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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    The independent portion of the diamond sports schedules is the only thing keeping them alive.

    I repeat as an example: When UL softball had the #1 ranked RPI in the country (OOC) the Sun Belt schedule prevented them from hosting. If you removed the out of conference schedule completely they would have been a 16 seed that year. Based on Sun Belt weakness.
    You are only taking into consideration part of the issue. Plus, the move would affect ALL sports in the athletic program, and while the diamond sports may be able to schedule, that's not necessarily the case for everyone else.

    Basketball, for example, already has a whale of a time putting together a schedule, much less a home schedule, with any amount of consistency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    The independent portion of the diamond sports schedules is the only thing keeping them alive.

    I repeat as an example: When UL softball had the #1 ranked RPI in the country (OOC) the Sun Belt schedule prevented them from hosting. If you removed the out of conference schedule completely they would have been a 16 seed that year. Based on Sun Belt weakness.
    Ok, so are we going independent in those sports as well? Name another conference that would help our ranking with out raising cost significantly? But you will ignore that because you and the other millionaires will continue to fund a deficit in our budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    You are only taking into consideration part of the issue. Plus, the move would affect ALL sports in the athletic program, and while the diamond sports may be able to schedule, that's not necessarily the case for everyone else.

    Basketball, for example, already has a whale of a time putting together a schedule, much less a home schedule, with any amount of consistency.
    I never said skill and effort wouldn't be involved in this temporary get off welfare effort.

    With more dates to offer I think basketball's scheduling fortunes could be turned around as word gets out that Louisiana is a first option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    I never said skill and effort wouldn't be involved in this temporary get off welfare effort.

    With more dates to offer I think basketball's scheduling fortunes could be turned around as word gets out that Louisiana is a first option.
    Well shtt, with skill and effort, I could buyout Jeff Bezzos at Amazon and we'd have unlimited funds...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    I never said skill and effort wouldn't be involved in this temporary get off welfare effort.

    With more dates to offer I think basketball's scheduling fortunes could be turned around as word gets out that Louisiana is a first option.
    This is what the liberals said about health care. No thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Well shtt, with skill and effort, I could buyout Jeff Bezzos at Amazon and we'd have unlimited funds...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelRock View Post
    Ok, so are we going independent in those sports as well? Name another conference that would help our ranking with out raising cost significantly? But you will ignore that because you and the other millionaires will continue to fund a deficit in our budget.
    The benefits of getting off welfare are not easily seen when your entry job pay is less than your free money.

    As a modern day independent UL would be first on any expansion list where the pay will double UL's current budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    The benefits of getting off welfare are not easily seen when your entry job pay is less than your free money.

    As a modern day independent UL would be first on any expansion list where the pay will double UL's current budget.
    IF, IF, IF, if if was a 5th I could get drunk. There is nothing that says your logic is true, as a matter of fact, as BYU and UMASS.

    You know you turn ever thread into an independent thread, others have learned not to have a discussion with you, but I guess I am too stupid.

    It must me nice to live in a fantasy world with unicorns and fairies. All I can say is say no to the Obama Care of your independent football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Well shtt, with skill and effort, I could buyout Jeff Bezzos at Amazon and we'd have unlimited funds...
    No one wants to struggle, they want success for free.

    Do you know how many thousands of competitors jeered Bezos for going independent and for taking money games, what appeared to be losses?

    They are not laughing now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelRock View Post
    IF, IF, IF, if if was a 5th I could get drunk. There is nothing that says your logic is true, as a matter of fact, as BYU and UMASS.

    You know you turn ever thread into an independent thread, others have learned not to have a discussion with you, but I guess I am too stupid.

    It must me nice to live in a fantasy world with unicorns and fairies. All I can say is say no to the Obama Care of your independent football.
    I didn't use "if" in your quote of me.

    The Affordable Care Act is the opposite of being independent in football. Everyone is in the same conference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    I didn't use "if" in your quote of me.

    The Affordable Care Act is the opposite of being independent in football. Everyone is in the same conference.
    "I THINK" is the same as if.

    No Obama Care is the exact same thing as being independent. If you are not on a company provided (conference) plan you are an independent and on Obama Care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelRock View Post
    You know you turn ever thread into an independent thread, others have learned not to have a discussion with you, but I guess I am too stupid.
    Take comfort in the fact that I have zero influence, thus no one should be upset by the exchange of ideas. However flawed mine are or appear to be on this matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelRock View Post
    ""I THINK" is the same as if.
    Ok, you were replying to a previous post, I didn't use "I think" in the one you quoted.

    Ps everything I post is "I think" so "if" point taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelRock View Post
    ""I THINK" is the same as if.

    No Obama Care is the exact same thing as being independent. If you are not on a company provided (conference) plan you are an independent and on Obama Care.
    He called it "The Affordable Care Act".
    Anyone that uses that term with a straight face is mentally deranged..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelRock View Post
    No Obama Care is the exact same thing as being independent. If you are not on a company provided (conference) plan you are an independent and on Obama Care.
    It may feel independent but it hinges on millions being enrolled.

    Actually I don't feel very independent, they keep telling me who and where to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    He called it "The Affordable Care Act".
    Anyone that uses that term with a straight face is mentally deranged..
    Who said I had a straight face?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelRock View Post
    ""I THINK" is the same as if.

    No Obama Care is the exact same thing as being independent. If you are not on a company provided (conference) plan you are an independent and on Obama Care.
    Don't mix arguments. Health Care is a rat hole that will leave us all fuming and off topic.

    The topic is independence in sports. I agree 1000% with Turbine. How we approach this is a different matter. Many of you are disagreeing with a "rip the band aid off" scenario where we wake up one day and we're completely Indy.

    This is going to have to be a piecemeal approach.

    First, nothing happens until we have an agreement in place with the NOLA Bowl to take us first if we are eligible or we have created a new Energy Bowl for Lafayette like Boise had the Humanitarian. Once that agreement has been signed for whatever date in the future, we announce Independence in Football on that day.

    Second, we place the other sports in a new conference for the time being. The SBC will kick us out. If the SLC will have us, we join them and never miss a beat. If they refuse, there are other options with the MVC being the dream scenario and ending with the Atlantic Sun as the last option that will work, and they would take us in a second.

    After a few years of adjustment with scheduling, if whatever conference we are in for the other sports seems to be hindering progress in those sports, then we do the full Monty.

    At the end of the day, if this experiment proves undoable, it's not like the SBC or CUSA would not want us.

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    Concerning what will happen in the future of College Football....let's see some "outside the box" thinking.....I will now log out of the site and return to my bunker.....


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    If going independent was this awesome idea for G5 schools, why aren't more doing it? Especially schools in CUSA and SBC that get very little television money.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    You are only taking into consideration part of the issue. Plus, the move would affect ALL sports in the athletic program, and while the diamond sports may be able to schedule, that's not necessarily the case for everyone else.

    Basketball, for example, already has a whale of a time putting together a schedule, much less a home schedule, with any amount of consistency.
    Softball and baseball would find it impossible to schedule as an independent. Reason is virtually all schools are in a conference and fill up 10 weekends or 30 conference games with conference play. Being independent in football only is what it's Advocates are proposing is what I believe. However that assumes we have a conference for other sports and that is very unlikely.

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