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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Jay Johnson is a hell of a coach, and I thought a ton of him as a man. I have nothing bad to say about him, I was only pointing to the fact that you made these guys out to be only leaving for promotions. Jay is the exception.
    he named all of the promotions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    Their abilities as coaches have nothing to do with their personal relationship with Hud. Jay Johnson lost his job after Christmas in a very strange circumstance, now you are trying to discredit Jay Johnson abilities to further your agenda. Jay Johnson is respected enough to be given a job at Georgia and I promise you will be back at OC somewhere next year. Willis lasted 2 years with the saints while its irrelevant, at least you can be accurate.
    Impossible to convince him, but every single one of these guys, with the exception of Smith and Stewart were in or are in better situations after they left and both of them were fired.

    Jay P5 OC vs G5 OC--Promotion
    Rebowe HC at FCS vs position coach at G5 FBS--Promotion
    Whitt P5 vs G5 same position--Promotion
    Willis NFL position coach vs G5 DC--Promotion
    Wallerstedt G5 Position coach vs G5 DC--Promotion
    Stewart FIRED at UL, now DC at FCS (downgrade but again you were fired), lucky to still be a DC at the D1 level
    Smith FIRED at UL, now DC at FCS (downgrade but again you were fired)lucky to be a DC at the D1 level

    Coaching business is tough, you try to better yourself at every turn. The guys above with the exception of Smith and Stewart did. Can not control what happens after that. Willis did not get fired because of ability, the Saint D sucked, most of the coaches were fired. Vince Lombardi could have been coaching and it would not have made a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    I choose to listen to what is going on around the complex. I choose to bring the conversation to the public and let people get BOTH sides of the story, because god knows, the cheerleaders will always paint the most positive picture and leave supporters in the dark. Where else are you going to get the darker side of the story, 1420? Hudspeths attrition rate is very bad. People wonder why. I try to shed light. Team goes in the tank over the past 3 years, people wonder why. Kids walk off the field, post locker room videos, get arrested, talk shtt to fans on social mieda, PEOPLE WONDER wtf is going on with our football program.. I try to tell the story we would NEVER get else where.

    Outside of Whitt and Jay, I don't have to downplay the promotions, because they are minor promotions at best. None of that is the point. You are over-sensationalizing (which you accuse others of) by going the extreme opposite of what people say here. Of course it's not always Huds fault. I've defended him on many occasions on personnel decisions. The fact is, some serious shtt has gone on over the last few years. It isn't a narrative.
    If it was that serious he would be fired, with cause. If he was winning nobody would care...it's serious because he is failing and people want him gone. If he was in the top 25 the same people would be defending him to the haters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginDave View Post
    Impossible to convince him, but every single one of these guys, with the exception of Smith and Stewart were in or are in better situations after they left and both of them were fired.

    Jay P5 OC vs G5 OC--Promotion
    Rebowe HC at FCS vs position coach at G5 FBS--Promotion
    Whitt P5 vs G5 same position--Promotion
    Willis NFL position coach vs G5 DC--Promotion
    Wallerstedt G5 Position coach vs G5 DC--Promotion
    Stewart FIRED at UL, now DC at FCS (downgrade but again you were fired), lucky to still be a DC at the D1 level
    Smith FIRED at UL, now DC at FCS (downgrade but again you were fired)lucky to be a DC at the D1 level

    Coaching business is tough, you try to better yourself at every turn. The guys above with the exception of Smith and Stewart did. Can not control what happens after that. Willis did not get fired because of ability, the Saint D sucked, most of the coaches were fired. Vince Lombardi could have been coaching and it would not have made a difference.
    And the only one of these coaches that were ever discussed with a riff between them was Willis.

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    And the only one of these coaches that were ever discussed with a riff between them was Willis.
    thats just not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    If it was that serious he would be fired, with cause. If he was winning nobody would care...it's serious because he is failing and people want him gone. If he was in the top 25 the same people would be defending him to the haters.
    Like Tim Beckman right?
    Or Mike Lenogren?
    Or Ken Wilson?

    All HUGE "winners" and got away with murder. Give me a break.
    I'm not accusing Hudspeth of total player mistreatment, but you're downplaying a situation that you know nothing about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxCajuns View Post
    thats just not true.
    Then sing for us little birdie..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginDave View Post
    Impossible to convince him, but every single one of these guys, with the exception of Smith and Stewart were in or are in better situations after they left and both of them were fired.

    Jay P5 OC vs G5 OC--Promotion
    Rebowe HC at FCS vs position coach at G5 FBS--Promotion
    Whitt P5 vs G5 same position--Promotion
    Willis NFL position coach vs G5 DC--Promotion
    Wallerstedt G5 Position coach vs G5 DC--Promotion
    Stewart FIRED at UL, now DC at FCS (downgrade but again you were fired), lucky to still be a DC at the D1 level
    Smith FIRED at UL, now DC at FCS (downgrade but again you were fired)lucky to be a DC at the D1 level

    Coaching business is tough, you try to better yourself at every turn. The guys above with the exception of Smith and Stewart did. Can not control what happens after that. Willis did not get fired because of ability, the Saint D sucked, most of the coaches were fired. Vince Lombardi could have been coaching and it would not have made a difference.
    Jay P5 OC vs G5 OC--Promotion
    Rebowe HC at FCS vs position coach at G5 FBS--Promotion (Was not going to be retained by HUD)
    Whitt P5 vs G5 same position--Promotion
    Willis NFL position coach vs G5 DC--Promotion
    Wallerstedt G5 Position coach vs G5 DC--Promotion (He was DC here. LATERAL MOVE)
    Stewart FIRED at UL, now DC at FCS (downgrade but again you were fired), lucky to still be a DC at the D1 level (Publicily thrown under the bus)
    Smith FIRED at UL, now DC at FCS (downgrade but again you were fired)lucky to be a DC at the D1 level)

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    The fact is he should have been fired with cause after the sanctions. He has floundered ever since then. He will be fired when we go 3-9.


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    The fact is he should have been fired with cause after the sanctions. He has floundered ever since then. He will be fired when we go 3-9.
    no problem with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    The fact is he should have been fired with cause after the sanctions. He has floundered ever since then. He will be fired when we go 3-9.
    Exactly, all the other soap opera crap blurs this FACT right here. Not every person will always like their boss, that's not some new concept to life. Production and a clean program is what matters. I doubt every person that works for Nick Saban hangs out with him on the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    Exactly, all the other soap opera crap blurs this FACT right here. Not every person will always like their boss, that's not some new concept to life. Production and a clean program is what matters. I doubt every person that works for Nick Saban hangs out with him on the weekend.
    Saban doesn't run a clean program either. He's just not at a G5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Jay P5 OC vs G5 OC--Promotion
    Rebowe HC at FCS vs position coach at G5 FBS--Promotion (Was not going to be retained by HUD)
    Whitt P5 vs G5 same position--Promotion
    Willis NFL position coach vs G5 DC--Promotion
    Wallerstedt G5 Position coach vs G5 DC--Promotion (He was DC here. LATERAL MOVE)
    Stewart FIRED at UL, now DC at FCS (downgrade but again you were fired), lucky to still be a DC at the D1 level (Publicily thrown under the bus)
    Smith FIRED at UL, now DC at FCS (downgrade but again you were fired)lucky to be a DC at the D1 level)
    If you remember, as Jay Johnson was leaving for greener pastures, the HUD STEAMROLLER was in full force, rolling over Jay because of our horrible QB play. Trust me, Jay was ready to get out of that hot mess.
    I have never heard Hud take blame for anything bad that has happened to HIS team, especially losses. In my mind, that's a losers mentality!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    Saban doesn't run a clean program either. He's just not at a G5.
    He uses the rules and advantages in front of him, I'm not gonna put that on him. I don't think there is one single program in the country that is "clean" you either have been caught or you haven't...and obviously different levels of dirty.

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    You either win or you get fired. It's as simple as that.
    Looking for job rules:

    UL Head Coach Rule No. 1: Don't Lose
    UL Head Coach Rule No. 2: See Rule No. 1
    UL Head Coach Rule No. 3: Make sure you have a really, really big contract and buyout when you don't follow Rules 1 and 2.

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    The fact is he should have been fired with cause after the sanctions. He has floundered ever since then. He will be fired when we go 3-9.
    Something that seems to escape many here on RP. Saunders was the fall guy, but people either don't know or don't want to know that he helped a number of athletes get eligible including Elijah McGuire. It wasn't just the few we were sanctioned for in the end.

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    Theres more drama & gossip on this site than sorority row....True/False?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    Something that seems to escape many here on RP. Saunders was the fall guy, but people either don't know or don't want to know that he helped a number of athletes get eligible including Elijah McGuire. It wasn't just the few we were sanctioned for in the end.
    I absolutely know how that process went. But he was the scapegoat and many other coaches, not just Hudspeth. But, Ole Miss eventually had to s__t can Freeze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    ... I doubt every person that works for Nick Saban hangs out with him on the weekend.
    What you talkin bout ... Willis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJeaux View Post
    Theres more drama & gossip on this site than sorority row....True/False?
    LOL!!! I guess there is, if you believe conversation with former players means absolutely nothing, parent telling supporters at the team hotel during bowl week game his son was assaulted by Hudspeth, several players he was close with left the program because they didn't respect him any longer and discipline slipped after Whitt's exit.....etc. I understand there are two sides of every story, but when the Head Coach denies such incidents to the media or says it wasn't as bad as it sounds without explanation, he deserves criticism.

    I carried his jock for four years, but I'm not naive enough to believe that Johnson or Whitt weren't headed out the door already when they received G5 jobs. It doesn't mean they hate Hudspeth, but it does mean there were differences in opinions that affected performances of athletes on the football field. Just because some people have heard some of these things and others haven't doesn't mean those incidents didn't take place. Just like in Farmer's case, if the information didn't come from a scripted discussion at a sanctioned event, some will believe it never happened.

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