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    Default Tempo Changes Everything

    5-3

    11-7

    22-14

    33-21

    44-28

    55-35

    66-42

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    It worked for Tulsa last night, but when we tried to run fast tempo last year, our offense couldnt pull it off. Countless false starts by the OL for example


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    Everything is magnified with up tempo.

    Losing 42 to 66 should not be any more or less upsetting than getting beat 22-14


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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Everything is magnified with up tempo.

    Losing 42 to 66 should not be any more or less upsetting than getting beat 22-14
    Sure. Ok.

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    No, there is a huuggggeee difference between giving up 66 versus giving up 22


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudsheen#winnin View Post
    No, there is a huuggggeee difference between giving up 66 versus giving up 22
    Percentage wise there is no difference.

    Up tempo changes "everything" and everything is a trade off.

    The defense in an up tempo game has no time to plan or regroup when the offense is scoring fast.

    It's identically cumulative, but more upsetting when its a new experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Percentage wise there is no difference.

    Up tempo changes "everything" and everything is a trade off.

    The defense in an up tempo game has no time to plan or regroup when the offense is scoring fast.

    It's identically cumulative, but more upsetting when its a new experience.
    What percentage are you talking about? Please explain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    What percentage are you talking about? Please explain...
    Multiply the 22-14 score by 3 and see what you get. The percentages are the same.

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    We were not running an up tempo offense and still scored 42. I don't see how them slowing down on offense cuts our offensive production by two thirds.


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    Turbine's sunshine pumping machine is like a piece of German engineering. Fine precision tolerances, close cut helical gearing, a quiet efficient diesel powerplant. Pumping bull____ like their is no tomorrow.

    We lost by 24 in a game we scored 42. A ridiculous, palindromic ___ kicking regardless of "tempo".


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    Default Re: Tempo Changes Everything

    How about we lost because they were better?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Everything is magnified with up tempo.

    Losing 42 to 66 should not be any more or less upsetting than getting beat 22-14
    Losing by at least 3 scores is more upsetting to me than losing by 1 touchdown and 2 point conversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudsheen#winnin View Post
    No, there is a huuggggeee difference between giving up 66 versus giving up 22
    Yes!

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    If you make $14 an hour and tickets cost you $22 it is no different than if you make $42 an hour and tickets cost you $66

    Just be glad you make $42 and most of your tickets (if not all) this year will be a lot less than $66

    edit ps: Weekly wages may vary.


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    Jesus. The end result is you want at least 1 more point than the other team. You can't scale that!

    If you are losing 22-14 with the ball on the other team's 1 with 5 seconds left you still have a chance to tie and go to overtime. Same scenario, down 66-42.....where are you?

    Your analysis is silly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    Jesus. The end result is you want at least 1 more point than the other team. You can't scale that!

    If you are losing 22-14 with the ball on the other team's 1 with 5 seconds left you still have a chance to tie and go to overtime. Same scenario, down 66-42.....where are you?

    Your analysis is silly.
    Unless you are calling for 3.5 yards and a pile of dust per play your angst factor shouldn't change.

    In a high scoring game your ability to make quick decisions changes dramatically, either you are used to it or it is new to you.

    If you are NOT used to it you make decisions like prematurely going for 2, an early onside kick, repeating the same failed trick play, poor WC QB substitutions, throwing away a 3rd down when you SHOULD know you are willing to go for it on 4th. (and that's just offensive decisions)

    If you are not used to thinking quickly you don't realize you are willing to go for it on 4th until the time arrives.

    Tempo Changes Everything, but it shouldn't budge how you feel about losing the game.

    UL had a better average gain per play than Tulsa but it seems the ability to make clear concise decisions on offense at key moments in the game put the defense in position to have to make many more stops than Tulsa's defense had to make.

    The shear number of plays brings the "key play" up from 1-2 to 5 or more.

    Tempo Changes Everything

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    So all we needed to do was scale ourselves a 24 point game tying touchdown. Duly noted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    So all we needed to do was scale ourselves a 24 point game tying touchdown. Duly noted.
    The flip side of your fippedness is saying we should have only scored 14.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Unless you are calling for 3.5 yards and a pile of dust per play your angst factor shouldn't change.

    In a high scoring game your ability to make quick decisions changes dramatically, either you are used to it or it is new to you.

    If you are NOT used to it you make decisions like prematurely going for 2, an early onside kick, repeating the same failed trick play, poor WC QB substitutions, throwing away a 3rd down when you SHOULD know you are willing to go for it on 4th. (and that's just offensive decisions)

    If you are not used to thinking quickly you don't realize you are willing to go for it on 4th until the time arrives.

    Tempo Changes Everything, but it shouldn't budge how you feel about losing the game.

    UL had a better average gain per play than Tulsa but it seems the ability to make clear concise decisions on offense at key moments in the game put the defense in position to have to make many more stops than Tulsa's defense had to make.

    The shear number of plays brings the "key play" up from 1-2 to 5 or more.

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    All of this would matter if the point was to determine how close of a loss you had. And the only place that seems to matter is at USL.

    The goal of the game is to WIN. In that case 24 is light years from 8. The rest of that is excuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    All of this would matter if the point was to determine how close of a loss you had. And the only place that seems to matter is at USL.

    The goal of the game is to WIN. In that case 24 is light years from 8. The rest of that is excuses.
    You can lose and be competitive. I don't think we were competitive. I'm not interested in whose defense sucked more. I'm I interested in winning, and how you win matters. I wouldn't feel one bit better if we scored 67 and won. I'd still know we've got an enormous problem.

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