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    Not my brand of football....give up 59 but score 60....hate it


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    Quote Originally Posted by California Cajun View Post
    I saw a few minutes of Texas vs. Maryland on TV from Austin, which I didn't think was very good, and there was a large crowd and student interest. It seemed like a parallel situation to ours except that Texas has a lot of past success. It's like the students are hard-wired to be there whether the team is good or not.
    UT also has a 50K enrollment.

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    The bottom line to get butts in the seats is to have a product worth it. We haven't for the last few years. I watched Boisie hand it to us to open the season last year and SE almost beat us. I left at halftime because I was sick of seeing a team that we should have put away before halftime score at will. If not for Calais' 2 TD's on ST and the long run by Ragas (?), we lose.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    No Mike, we have cultivated a community of people that care more about the social experience than watching the game. Lubbock, College Park, Boise, Baylor, etc all had apethrtic fan bases until their teams became successful, played house hold names, and eventually got into better conferences. Western Michigan took 40k fans to their NY6 bowl game against Wisconsin. You think they've been packing the stadium at WMU all these years? Of course not.

    It will take multiple years of winning big to cultivate a passionate fan base. Not passionate for tailgating, but genuinely interested in going into the game and watching a football game.
    You probably are right in that we have cultivated the social fan. Your second paragraph is very telling. It will take MULTIPLE years of winning big to change things. We are not close to that now. Which is why I still believe (know as much as believe due to having a daughter that just graduated) many students would have left at halftime regardless of how the team was playing. Every freshman class cares less about football and athletics than the one before it at this stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by California Cajun View Post
    I saw a few minutes of Texas vs. Maryland on TV from Austin, which I didn't think was very good, and there was a large crowd and student interest. It seemed like a parallel situation to ours except that Texas has a lot of past success. It's like the students are hard-wired to be there whether the team is good or not.

    I work with some Texas grads. Many of them don't care about football anymore. One of the best mentees I ever had was from there and she went to one game in four years there. The point of 50000 students there is valid. That is why their student draw looks OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    I work with some Texas grads. Many of them don't care about football anymore. One of the best mentees I ever had was from there and she went to one game in four years there. The point of 50000 students there is valid. That is why their student draw looks OK.
    The students care less because Texas has been irrelevant on the national stage for a decade. Which furthers my point about winning consistently. We were on the right track, but people mistake the building stage for the "we've made it" stage. Those 4 winning years were a good start, but by no means will that level of success build a passionate fan base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    The students care less because Texas has been irrelevant on the national stage for a decade. Which furthers my point about winning consistently. We were on the right track, but people mistake the building stage for the "we've made it" stage. Those 4 winning years were a good start, but by no means will that level of success build a passionate fan base.
    Agree with points made in that post. That ties to the point made by Cajun Express that we are not relevant in college football today. Of course 95 percent of G5 schools are not and 50 percent of P5 schools are not today. That is what abundance of bowl games, TV games, and the college playoff system has resulted in. Of course just because that is the situation does not mean we should not try to improve our situation. Lots of work ahead of us in that regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    Are you insinuating that beating SLU 51-48 at home was a great UL coaching effort? Maybe we're a little different in how we look at things. But I don't just walk away going "all is good - we won". I get troubled looking at a schedule that has 11 better teams to be played. Seven on the road. And then tell myself "all is good and going according to plan".

    But yes, we did win. An FCS team came into Cajun Field and lost the game in the final seconds. All is good.
    There is no such thing as a ugly win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun tom View Post
    There is no such thing as a ugly win.
    You obviously haven't seen my neighbor's wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by California Cajun View Post
    I saw a few minutes of Texas vs. Maryland on TV from Austin, which I didn't think was very good, and there was a large crowd and student interest. It seemed like a parallel situation to ours except that Texas has a lot of past success. It's like the students are hard-wired to be there whether the team is good or not.
    They are hard-wired. It started on Fridays when they were kids. Attendance is more presumption than decision. Texans generally don't consider what else they could be doing on Friday night or Saturday.

    For a non-Longhorn fan like ATXCajun, it is the best time to go to HEB. Nobody there. As it turned out this Saturday, my wife and I shared the most popular indoor gun range with 3 other shooters. That was nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun tom View Post
    There is no such thing as a ugly win.
    UHH, I'm pretty sure there is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun tom View Post
    There is no such thing as a ugly win.
    Oh yes there is and last night was a prime example.

    I've been watching Ragin' Cajuns Football for 22 years. I've seen ugly wins and even uglier losses.

    Ugly win from the past:
    11/20/1999 Wofford vs. Louisiana W 37-34

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginCajun77 View Post
    Ugly win from the past:
    11/20/1999 Wofford vs. Louisiana W 37-34
    Those were the days when I was happy to get A win. Unfortunately, I thought we would be past those days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun tom View Post
    There is no such thing as a ugly win.
    The Jay Walker mentality. Unfortunately, Jay Walker is wrong about this... and many other things

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    Everyone wants to dog the student but at least they showed up for half the game the chair back seats on the home side were more than half empty for the entire game to me that's a bigger problem.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun tom View Post
    There is no such thing as a ugly win.
    YaY SportS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun Soldier View Post
    Everyone wants to dog the student but at least they showed up for half the game the chair back seats on the home side were more than half empty for the entire game to me that's a bigger problem.
    This lol if y'all thought that student turnout was bad just wait. It's gonna get worse every game
    Last edited by Ragin' Caleb; September 3rd, 2017 at 11:47 pm. Reason: Left out a word

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun Soldier View Post
    Everyone wants to dog the student but at least they showed up for half the game the chair back seats on the home side were more than half empty for the entire game to me that's a bigger problem.
    You are right as well. To be honest, not sure how many homes games I will attend this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun tom View Post
    There is no such thing as a ugly win.
    There is no such thing as an ugly win.

    The event laden process towards getting that attractive W can sometimes make your eyes bleed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun Soldier View Post
    Everyone wants to dog the student but at least they showed up for half the game the chair back seats on the home side were more than half empty for the entire game to me that's a bigger problem.
    That is an indication of a problem (empty chairbacks). You don't ____ off fans. You can ____ off athletes, you can ____ off your wife, you can ____ off your mom... but as a head football coach... you never ever ____ off fans. And if one of your radio surrogates thinks he can... you take the biggest sweat loaded jock and stuff it in his mouth. You never ever ____ off fans.

    When you do ____ off fans... because your IQ is in double digits... you make very sure you are so great at coaching football, singing, or acting that despite your insignificant contribution to mankind... you are untouchable.

    As for students... we don't have any issue that any other school does. They're young, dumb and full of energy. It takes something pretty special to get them to stay and watch an FBS team tread water with an FCS team. When you heard things as a grade schooler/ high schooler like "I'm going to put a fence around Louisiana"... and after year 7... your biggest fantasy is to reproduce what you did in year 1... when you didn't have "your system" or "your players" installed yet... it's hard to get free spirited students to follow you. I actually thought highly of those that showed up in the first half. It proves... once again... that fans are and never were our problem.

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