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    Quote Originally Posted by Bicky Rustle View Post
    Go back and read post 31-33 it was a response to daddy Cajun. He said he hoped the kids in the program turn out to be great men and fathers. I simply stated some are already fathers and not starting on the right foot for that to happen. If they got no income for support. What I stated are simply facts that libtards cannot except. (I realize this is not cookie cutter all or none I said some)
    You've only listed opinions, your own racist opinions. You should stop watching so much Fox News Bicky. Nutria won't trap themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bicky Rustle View Post
    Go back and read post 31-33 it was a response to daddy Cajun. He said he hoped the kids in the program turn out to be great men and fathers. I simply stated some are already fathers and not starting on the right foot for that to happen. If they got no income for support. What I stated are simply facts that libtards cannot except. (I realize this is not cookie cutter all or none I said some)
    If by "some" you meant 2 out of 25, then yea.. maybe so. And that's a much MUCH more promising number than the national average.

    Still doesn't explain why you launched into a crusade over it.

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    Society has already ruled on this issue. We aren't forcing anyone to drop out of college to support their offspring. They still get Pell grants, they still get to work their way through, they still can get a free ride from dad and mom. Nobody is forced to immediately start contributing if they're being educated. At least that's my understanding.

    Why should athletes be treated differently? A guy with a 4.0 in computer science isn't forfeiting his all expense scholarship to start working at Walmart. What's different about a young man who's working towards a degree and exceeding as an athlete. His scholarship isn't free. He's working outside class a minimum of twenty hours a week. He's providing a service that the computer science kid isn't. That kids ( computer science kid) only job is to maintain a adequate GPA to retain an all expense paid education who may or may never contribute a dime to UL, or the state of Louisiana.


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    You've only listed opinions, your own racist opinions. You should stop watching so much Fox News Bicky. Nutria won't trap themselves.
    I see you must have past liberal 101 with flying colors. When you are on the wrong side of an argument start throwing out isims racism, sexism, homophobism.... you know the rest.

    Just for the record at my kids school the development director and PA guy for TC is man of color and very good guy, good father and good friend of mine, Clarence Glenn former Cajun coached my kid in middle school great guy and great father, a former city councilman known for carving MLK in a desk has a son that has spent the night at my house numerous times, we may disagree on politics but he is a great father. The Guidry's, Little's, Tauriac's, and Boutte's that I went to high school and played ball with, all of color very good friends and had very good fathers. For me this has never been about race but about a man taking ownership of his action. Just a man manning up and being a man. If there is a particular race that is more guilty of not taking responsibility for their action I did not create that and have no control over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Society has already ruled on this issue. We aren't forcing anyone to drop out of college to support their offspring. They still get Pell grants, they still get to work their way through, they still can get a free ride from dad and mom. Nobody is forced to immediately start contributing if they're being educated. At least that's my understanding.

    Why should athletes be treated differently? A guy with a 4.0 in computer science isn't forfeiting his all expense scholarship to start working at Walmart. What's different about a young man who's working towards a degree and exceeding as an athlete. His scholarship isn't free. He's working outside class a minimum of twenty hours a week. He's providing a service that the computer science kid isn't. That kids ( computer science kid) only job is to maintain a adequate GPA to retain an all expense paid education who may or may never contribute a dime to UL, or the state of Louisiana.
    The people you described are the ones who fill up married student housing on campus for the most part. A very large % of people in married student housing got pregnant unexpectedly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bicky Rustle View Post
    I see you must have past liberal 101 with flying colors. When you are on the wrong side of an argument start throwing out isims racism, sexism, homophobism.... you know the rest.

    Just for the record at my kids school the development director and PA guy for TC is man of color and very good guy, good father and good friend of mine, Clarence Glenn former Cajun coached my kid in middle school great guy and great father, a former city councilman known for carving MLK in a desk has a son that has spent the night at my house numerous times, we may disagree on politics but he is a great father. The Guidry's, Little's, Tauriac's, and Boutte's that I went to high school and played ball with, all of color very good friends and had very good fathers. For me this has never been about race but about a man taking ownership of his action. Just a man manning up and being a man. If there is a particular race that is more guilty of not taking responsibility for their action I did not create that and have no control over it.
    Bicky I know where you went to school. You shouldn't have common sense discussions with liberals. You know you can't fix stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bicky Rustle View Post
    I see you must have past liberal 101 with flying colors. When you are on the wrong side of an argument start throwing out isims racism, sexism, homophobism.... you know the rest.

    Just for the record at my kids school the development director and PA guy for TC is man of color and very good guy, good father and good friend of mine, Clarence Glenn former Cajun coached my kid in middle school great guy and great father, a former city councilman known for carving MLK in a desk has a son that has spent the night at my house numerous times, we may disagree on politics but he is a great father. The Guidry's, Little's, Tauriac's, and Boutte's that I went to high school and played ball with, all of color very good friends and had very good fathers. For me this has never been about race but about a man taking ownership of his action. Just a man manning up and being a man. If there is a particular race that is more guilty of not taking responsibility for their action I did not create that and have no control over it.
    When you have to start naming all of the "men of color" that you associate with.. well that doesn't bode well for you.. Your statements speak loud and clear, Sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FacelessBuffoon View Post
    Bicky I know where you went to school. You shouldn't have common sense discussions with liberals. You know you can't fix stupid.
    What exactly did Hawk say that qualifies as stupid to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    When you have to start naming all of the "men of color" that you associate with.. well that doesn't bode well for you.. Your statements speak loud and clear, Sir.
    I was waiting for the first moron to say just that. I thought it would be hawk though. Congratulations you beat him out for that crown. Obviously I don't have space for a novel. Just saying if I were "racist" as insinuated would I have any black friends or let black kids spend the night over. Isn't the definition of racist someone who hates an entire race of people strictly because of color?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Charlie, you're my guy.. so understand that I mean no harm. Morality is a subjective thing. Evolving intellectually is also different for everyone. Background is everything, especially at 18-22.

    I understand the groups that subscribe to the same ideology (i.e. Catholic, baptists, Mormon etc) will say there is a set of guidelines, but IMO it is arrogant to believe a certain sect of folk have the answers to all. Not to mention, there are plenty of players, in all of our sports, that can both afford playing, schooling and raising a kid (financially). And before anyone starts telling me they didn't accept help from others when raising their kids at some point or another, please spare me. I was captain bootstrap before real life happened to me. It's horseshtt, let's just be honest here.

    My only comment was to the idea that somehow what is morally acceptable should be relaxed based on socioeconomic realities.

    No doubt societal morals evolve....for good and bad. No doubt a "mistake" shouldn't define a person...especially when they discover that mistake was the greatest thing to ever happen to them. I only object to the idea that morality is flexible based on how poor you may or may not be.

    I have no problem with players being helped if they put themselves in that position....as long as they are 100% committed to doing the right thing for the life they created. But that's an issue of compassion, not flexible morality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bicky Rustle View Post
    I was waiting for the first moron to say just that. I thought it would be hawk though. Congratulations you beat him out for that crown. Obviously I don't have space for a novel. Just saying if I were "racist" as insinuated would I have any black friends or let black kids spend the night over. Isn't the definition of racist someone who hates an entire race of people strictly because of color?
    As you further prove Hawks point... it would be funny if it wasn't so sad..

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    My only comment was to the idea that somehow what is morally acceptable should be relaxed based on socioeconomic realities.

    No doubt societal morals evolve....for good and bad. No doubt a "mistake" shouldn't define a person...especially when they discover that mistake was the greatest thing to ever happen to them. I only object to the idea that morality is flexible based on how poor you may or may not be.
    Agreed. My thought on it is, socioeconomic disposition plays a big role in what we (or they) deem moral/acceptable/right or wrong. It shouldn't, but it does. The divide is drastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Agreed. My thought on it is, socioeconomic disposition plays a big role in what we (or they) deem moral/acceptable/right or wrong. It shouldn't, but it does. The divide is drastic.
    Agreed! But that doesn't mean we should change what is morally acceptable....only that we should have compassion. That's what I've been taught being a Christian is. Compassion. But that compassion doesn't have to mean acceptance of the action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    Agreed! But that doesn't mean we should change what is morally acceptable....only that we should have compassion. That's what I've been taught being a Christian is. Compassion. But that compassion doesn't have to mean acceptance of the action.
    I certainly agree with that. And to your point, I think understanding is hard to come by these days. Check out Bickey's rant. Not to pick on him, but he actually does represent a popular way of handling things. I think jack said it best, the world of black and white. He didn't mean that in a race sense, if I'm reading him correctly. He meant leaving out the grey area, which truthfully, is where a big percentage of people operate. Life in the 21st century is MUCH more complicated than 200 years ago. There are moral issues that simply have become complicated. We've evolved as a people, and without losing our anchor in values, we need to understand all the nuances that are realities in culture and society at large today. Blanket statements are dangerous and only tell a partial story.

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    What exactly did Hawk say that qualifies as stupid to you?
    Let me give you a lesson in liberalism. I was not talking to Hawk directly with that statement I was speaking in general terms. Hawk is a very good textbook liberal as he doesn't take a stand he just name calls. Bicky said he thinks a male who impregnates a girl should man up and take responsibility. Bicky said he did not think a kid playing ball and unable to work could live up to the responsibility of a father. Hawk did not come back and say I disagree a young man can knock up a young lady and take no responsibility through marriage or financial support. Or he didn't say it is perfectly ok for him to prolong financial support until he is finished playing his game. He never gave his stance on the matter he just called bicky a racist for his belief. You see liberals don't take a hard stand on an issue as Bicky did they just name call and point fingers. Again Hawk is very good at the liberal game when he is in any kind of discussion on this forum he just calls names and avoids facts. So in a nut shell Bicky said young men nut up. Hawk called racism. Here are some other examples.

    Trump said we must know who these Syrian refugees are before we let them in our country. As we all know ISIS vowed to infiltrate through them and get into the US. Liberals called racist because Trump wouldn't open the flood gates with Syrians. That is how the whole Trump is racist got started.

    Planned parenthood kills 1000s of babies every year and have sold the tissues. They don't call it baby killing they call Womens health.

    Trump bands travel from only 7 of the many Muslim nations in the world, only temporally until he can figure out who they are. Liberals say trump banded all muslims from US and he is anti all Muslims. They don't admit they want them to come in as they please unvetted, they just name call.

    Trump wants to send illegal criminal immigrants home. Liberals say trump is anti immigration. They never use the word illiegal before immigration when describing who he wants to send back. They just say he is anti immigration.

    My point simply was you can't really have a discussion with someone who never really takes a hard stance on their side of the issues, but instead just makes false accusations on the other persons character. We see liberals do this everyday in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FacelessBuffoon View Post
    Let me give you a lesson in liberalism. I was not talking to Hawk directly with that statement I was speaking in general terms. Hawk is a very good textbook liberal as he doesn't take a stand he just name calls. Bicky said he thinks a male who impregnates a girl should man up and take responsibility. Bicky said he did not think a kid playing ball and unable to work could live up to the responsibility of a father. Hawk did not come back and say I disagree a young man can knock up a young lady and take no responsibility through marriage or financial support. Or he didn't it is perfectly ok for him to prolong financial support until he is finished playing his game. He just called bicky a racist for his belief. You see liberals don't take a hard stand on an issue as Bicky did they just name call and point fingers. Again Hawk is very good at the liberal game when he is in any kind of discussion on this forum he just calls names and avoids facts. So in a nut shell Bicky said young men nut up. Hawk called racism. Here are some other examples.

    Trump said we must know who these Syrian refugees are before we let them in our country. As we all know ISIS vowed to infiltrate through them and get into the US. Liberals called racist because Trump wouldn't open the flood gates with Syrians. That is how the whole Trump is racist got started.

    Planned parenthood kills 1000s of babies every year and have sold the tissues. They don't call it baby killing they call Womens health.

    Trump bands travel from only 7 of the many Muslim nations in the world, only temporally until he can figure out who they are. Liberals say trump banded all muslims from US and he is anti all Muslims. They don't admit they want them to come in as they please unvetted, they just name call.

    Trump wants to send illegal criminal immigrants home. Liberals say trump is anti immigration. They never use the word illiegal before immigration when describing who he wants to send back. They just say he is anti immigration.

    My point simply was you can't really have a discussion with someone who never really states their side and just name calls.
    Textbook liberal...registered Republican. Sadly...you and Bicky are the reason Republicans are viewed as such a joke. Doesn't agree with my tunnel vision world view...Liberal. Doesn't accept every Republican as acceptable candidates...Liberal. I will not be called stupid and/or Liberal by a ____ing Trump supporter. Being stupider than a Trump supporter is like finding something that tastes worse than Kale. Can't happen. Doesn't exist. Switch back on Fox News...and let the indoctrination take you away.

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    I also find the majority of irresponsible adults are coming from much better upbringings these days. Why? Because these kids are being doted on night and day. Allowed to be emotional invalids, given no responsibility, and fulfilled their every wanton desire. They to me are the "demographic" that is leading to much more problems than the 80% of black people who have bad fathers (source Bicky).


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    All of your "I am right/you are wrong, I know dis and dat" attitudes and opinions have totally ____ed up this website.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    Agreed! But that doesn't mean we should change what is morally acceptable....only that we should have compassion. That's what I've been taught being a Christian is. Compassion. But that compassion doesn't have to mean acceptance of the action.
    I can agree, but anecdotal evidence points to morality moving towards the norm, more than standing pat. It's not about acceptance, it's more about staying relevant. Vatican II is a good example of this. Hell the pope is ok with gays now. Soon we will online churches, text message confessions or FaceTime, relaxation of certain issues that younger generations find implausible. It's just the way it goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chauncey View Post
    All of your "I am right/you are wrong, I know dis and dat" attitudes and opinions have totally ____ed up this website.
    I hate to say this...but I think you are a bit wrong. I know dis and dat. There...that's how you sound.

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