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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    Bootstrappers...strapping hard today.
    Ok. You lost me what exactly are you trying to say? What does that mean? I've never heard that terminology before. I like to understand it when name caller is calling me names. Macho macho name calling man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    Please...say...trapping Nutria.
    If I had to I would. I don't get your point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bicky Rustle View Post
    OK. We were obviously raised with different morals and beliefs of what is right and wrong. Do you know how many kids are walking college campuses with the same socioeconomic back ground as these athletes? There are many avenues one can take to get through college this day and age.
    Get off your high horse Bicky...You have no idea my "moral" background. My catholic parents got married because it was "the right thing to do" and not because they loved each other. They no longer are able to talk to each other nor be in the same room. No marriage works if the two parties involved do not love and respect each other. Not because some priest told them they have to. Most kids are better off raised with separate parents then two people who hate and resent each other, it's common ____ing sense.

    Now if you want to talk sex education or other ways to prevent so many unwed pregnancies, that is a totally different discussion.

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    Get off your high horse Bicky...You have no idea my "moral" background. My catholic parents got married because it was "the right thing to do" and not because they loved each other. They no longer are able to talk to each other nor be in the same room. No marriage works if the two parties involved do not love and respect each other. Not because some priest told them they have to. Most kids are better off raised with separate parents then two people who hate and resent each other, it's common ____ing sense.

    Now if you want to talk sex education or other ways to prevent so many unwed pregnancies, that is a totally different discussion.
    Well I know someone personally of strong Catholic faith in that same situation and coach Faulkenberry took football away. He then worked several jobs while in school, and his kid lived in vet village the first 4 years of life. He was a man of God who loved his wife and his family until the day he died. Even if you take the marriage part out there should still be some immediate financial obligations when you bring a child into the world. Unfortunately today's society makes it much to easy to avoid the responsibilities and duties of a man. College coaches are up on the top of the list of the ones who are enabling them. You tell me which route is better in making a "man" todays or Coah Russ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    I would think a seasoned Nutria trapper would know the terminology.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootstrapping
    Get it right.

    That would be HIPbootsTRAPPER to you kid.

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    Hip waders make a man soft. They need to experience sickness and hypothermia to truly be able to pull up those boot straps.
    One step deeper and their called Hip Sinkers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    We might not agree...but ______ Turbine I respect you.
    I think I'm goin to cry.

    DON'T hold my hand while my sinuses are sweating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    Bootstrappers...strapping hard today.
    I must be missing something. Is taking ownership of one's past actions an impossible feat (i.e. bootstrapping)? It seems that Bicky was referencing the obligation to own up to past actions and do what you must, when you bring a child into the world.

    Some may have the ability to play sports and have a kid - a seemingly impossible task that many young men succeed at. However, for every success, there appears to always be a failure too. Guess I just figured all males should be men and raise a kid they brought into this world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    The rub is...everyone has no problem stating they stood up like big men and pulled themselves up with no help whatsoever. No one ever looks back and says, "you know what, being a kid you make mistakes, and these kids are from insanely different background and socioeconomic problems as I was. Maybe I shouldn't call them lazy and irresponsible, because that's EXACTLY WHAT I WAS AT THEIR AGE."

    It's akin to an old man remembering he used to walk 5 miles to school in the snow with no shoes, when the mother____er lived two blocks from the school and had new shoes on his feet regularly. Everyone pulled themselves from the gutter to where they are today. I know I didn't. My parents worked their asses off to put me through catholic school, so that when I got to college I didn't have to work as a "metter" maid (shout out to the Bickster) the rest of my life. A lot of kids don't get that leg up. So you can't stare back down at them and apply your own, distorted life story to their's. It's a fool's errand. Apples to oranges. I'm not by any means advocating that lifestyle, but looking at them under the same lens that you view yourself isn't applicable.
    He was addressing morality, not opportunity. Why would or should one's socioeconomic status effect their morality?

    Why should we expect less, from a moral perspective, from some than we do from others?

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    I don't think getting pregnant and married was the Bickster's main point. Think it was how can these men have children, have no money bc of football priorities, and still support their children.

    The whole stipend debate was from these men not being able to work bc of football and how they can't even afford lunch money. So how can they support another mouth I believe was his main question.


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    I don't think getting pregnant and married was the Bickster's main point. Think it was how can these men have children, have no money bc of football priorities, and still support their children.

    The whole stipend debate was from these men not being able to work bc of football and how they can't even afford lunch money. So how can they support another mouth I believe was his main question.
    Correct society has made it ok to be a sperm provider and then your done. It's a big problem we have today with around 80% of a certain demographic being born out of wedlock without a male role model in the child's life. When two decide to bring life into this world both should be responsible and pull there weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bicky Rustle View Post
    No sir you are very naive. You are correct it is not the majority. I read a recent article that suggest the number of male student athletes with children is right at 30%. (The female athlete usually has to give sports up and take responsibility) I didn't say they should drop out of school. I know many people that got married in that situation, lived in married student housing and worked while in school to support their family. Football is a previldge not a right. A child is a huge responsibility and everyone should be held responsible for their own actions from day one, not year 4 after they've played ball and had others financially support their child. (I do realize my opinion does not go along with the societal flaws today of baby momma and baby daddy with no marital bond or relationship. I can not force society to do what is morally right.)
    How rich... guy that "reads recent article" gives moral advice on college fan board.. By the way, that 30% is below the societal stat for the same issue.

    Anyway, it's time to expand your mind Bickey. Let me tell you a quick story. Ole MAT here had a 9 lbs 6 oz surprise at the ripe old age of 20. Of course I wasn't a college athlete on scholarship and I handled my financial duties. I did not get married right away, because it would have been stupid, naive and irresponsible to do so. Marrying a woman for the sole reason of parenting is absurd, as you have a huge risk of dragging a kid through a divorce, especially at the aforementioned age. Now, over a decade later, I'm still with her and we've made a nice life out of it. The point still stands.

    Should people be more responsible? Sure. But things happen. Also, several of our players grow up without father figures to mentor them into responsible young men. It's just a fact.

    You are correct in that a big supporter leaked the video to the press, so that begs the question: who really violated the "code"? If I said the name here, you people would be shocked. But that's not the point..

    You know, there's some very concerning comments being made in the aftermath of all this stuff and I'm starting to believe some of our "supporters" are the biggest bus drivers concerning the division in this program right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bicky Rustle View Post
    Well I know someone personally of strong Catholic faith in that same situation and coach Faulkenberry took football away. He then worked several jobs while in school, and his kid lived in vet village the first 4 years of life. He was a man of God who loved his wife and his family until the day he died. Even if you take the marriage part out there should still be some immediate financial obligations when you bring a child into the world. Unfortunately today's society makes it much to easy to avoid the responsibilities and duties of a man. College coaches are up on the top of the list of the ones who are enabling them. You tell me which route is better in making a "man" todays or Coah Russ?
    This is the kinda bull____ that gives conservative thinking folks a bad name.. So much ignorance in this post..

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    Actually...that was his point. Post #33 "Where I'm from when you impregnate someone you get married and go to work and support your family." I've already established it was his 3rd cousin...and her name was Ophelia...and she chews Red Man.
    See post 51. "Even if they do not get married there still is an immediate financial responsibility". Not a 4 or 5 years down the road financial responsibility. If the student athlete cannot earn money then someone else is fulfilling his obligation. ( many times it's tax payers through "government" assistance".

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    He was addressing morality, not opportunity. Why would or should one's socioeconomic status effect their morality?

    Why should we expect less, from a moral perspective, from some than we do from others?
    Charlie, you're my guy.. so understand that I mean no harm. Morality is a subjective thing. Evolving intellectually is also different for everyone. Background is everything, especially at 18-22.

    I understand the groups that subscribe to the same ideology (i.e. Catholic, baptists, Mormon etc) will say there is a set of guidelines, but IMO it is arrogant to believe a certain sect of folk have the answers to all. Not to mention, there are plenty of players, in all of our sports, that can both afford playing, schooling and raising a kid (financially). And before anyone starts telling me they didn't accept help from others when raising their kids at some point or another, please spare me. I was captain bootstrap before real life happened to me. It's horse____, let's just be honest here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    This is the kinda bull____ that gives conservative thinking folks a bad name.. So much ignorance in this post..
    Yep. For you liberal types political correctness has taken the place of common sense in this country. In the 1960s as you can see in the post a man had to own up to his mistakes. Today no one is held accountable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bicky Rustle View Post
    See post 51. "Even if they do not get married there still is an immediate financial responsibility". Not a 4 or 5 years down the road financial responsibility. If the student athlete cannot earn money then someone else is fulfilling his obligation. ( many times it's tax payers through "government" assistance".
    That's not at all what you said and post 51 was a cover up..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bicky Rustle View Post
    Correct society has made it ok to be a sperm provider and then your done. It's a big problem we have today with around 80% of a certain demographic being born out of wedlock without a male role model in the child's life. When two decide to bring life into this world both should be responsible and pull there weight.
    Which part of society has made it "ok"? 80% of a certain demographic being what exactly? 80% is an extremely high figure for any case study.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    We all know your thought's on this Bicky...just come out and say you think niggers are bad fathers. For ____'s sake.
    Wow. Trubine you should not allow this type of language here. I have never once made any comments or accusations on any race or ethnic group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bicky Rustle View Post
    Yep. For you liberal types political correctness has taken the place of common sense in this country. In the 1960s as you can see in the post a man had to own up to his mistakes. Today no one is held accountable.
    So I'm a nut job conservative to some of you and a liberal to others.. incredible..

    Common sense isn't so common, especially amongst "get off my lawn" guys like you that just want to throw stones at things you don't understand rather than take the time to learn about them and realize that the world is ever changing..

    "In the 60s, a man had to own up to his mistakes?" MF, men still own up to their mistakes everyday. What the hell are you talking about?

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