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    Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns baseball junior Gunner Leger became the fifth Cajuns player since 2014 to be named to the Collegiate Baseball NCAA Division I All-American baseball teams as he was tabbed to the 2017 third team, the publication announced last week.


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    When is MLB draft?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    When is MLB draft?
    june 12th

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    Well deserved. Congrats to Gunner.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun_lannister View Post
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    Can you imagine the ratings buzz if they held the draft immediately after the last out of the College World Series?

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    I was watching the MLB Network Top 100 draft prospect show the other day, and he wasn't in the top 100... and according to their website, he's not in the top 200... what is the possibility that he sticks around another year?

    http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017/?list=draft


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    Better than 50% if u ask me


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    I think we will be pleasantly surprised at who is back next year.

    I believe Sensley will be gone.

    As for pitchers, the top rounds of the draft are for guys who throw 95+ mph. Culture now is to acquire flamethrowers, use them up, and get some more. If Gunner or Wyatt had another 4-5 mph on their fastballs, I think they'd be gone. But guys who throw 88-92 just don't get drafted high enough to command the money to make it worth it to sign.

    That said, and we all know that these kids dream of playing professional baseball, we've seen it over and over when kids sign just because they are drafted...and are out of baseball within 3 years. I hope, for the Cajuns sake, and even more so, the kids' sake, they don't fall into that trap. Hopefully, Gunner's dad Tim Leger, a 4th round pick out of HS who signed and was playing football at McNeese a few years later will be the example to show Gunner and Wyatt what life in the minors is like when you're not a first round "bonus baby". Hell, even Stryker Trahan from Acadiana HS, drafted in the first round a few years ago is already out of baseball and never made it to the big leagues.

    I have many friends who've played minor league ball, and they all have stories of good times and places they've been, etc., but every one of them have said that minor league baseball is an awful existence. And VERY FEW realize the Major League dream.

    Without life changing money, it's just not worth it if you still have college eligibility remaining.

    We shall see.


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    So many guys leave school and then get tossed around the minors for a few years. Then get cut, call it quits, etc. That happens to juniors, seniors, drafted guys, free agent signings, everybody. My thought process is...unless you are a top 5 round pick or so, you might as well finish your eligibility and get your degree and then head to play professional baseball after your senior year. Yes I know about the money leverage. I also was not blessed with the ability to play professional or even college baseball, so I really don't know what really is going through these kids' minds.

    Here's to hoping they have some unfinished business to take care of here and choose to stay. If they decide to leave, I'll be pulling for them.


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    I agree with all the sentiment regarding junior signs. The only thing I will say for guys who go their junior year even though they don't get huge signing bonuses is that their dream is to play professional baseball, however, if they are a senior sign, they will probably get $1,000 signing bonus. Which would mean they cannot afford to play professional baseball, which is their dream. Whereas if they go and sign in their junior year, they will get a larger signing bonus they can use to support themselves financially in pro-ball until they run out or get released.

    So the fear, I'm sure, is that they won't get to play professionally unless they go their junior year. I'm not saying I agree with their thinking, but I'm sure that has something to do with it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rougarou View Post
    I agree with all the sentiment regarding junior signs. The only thing I will say for guys who go their junior year even though they don't get huge signing bonuses is that their dream is to play professional baseball, however, if they are a senior sign, they will probably get $1,000 signing bonus. Which would mean they cannot afford to play professional baseball, which is their dream. Whereas if they go and sign in their junior year, they will get a larger signing bonus they can use to support themselves financially in pro-ball until they run out or get released.

    So the fear, I'm sure, is that they won't get to play professionally unless they go their junior year. I'm not saying I agree with their thinking, but I'm sure that has something to do with it.
    MLB has been reducing signing bonus slots (with players association approval), so the amounts go down much faster than in the past. Keep in mind if you're after the first five or so round you're more filler than prospect. They need guys who can fill minor league team slots (and maybe find an extremely rare diamond) so their true prospects can get playing time. They'll give those prospects multiple chances to fail but not so much for the fillers. Could you live on $600/mo for 4-5 months a year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunAmos View Post
    MLB has been reducing signing bonus slots (with players association approval), so the amounts go down much faster than in the past. Keep in mind if you're after the first five or so round you're more filler than prospect. They need guys who can fill minor league team slots (and maybe find an extremely rare diamond) so their true prospects can get playing time. They'll give those prospects multiple chances to fail but not so much for the fillers. Could you live on $600/mo for 4-5 months a year?
    Wow! Is that number pretty accurate? I knew minor league guys didn't make much, but I had no idea they made less than a burger flipper at mcdonalds...

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    Quote Originally Posted by campo118 View Post
    Wow! Is that number pretty accurate? I knew minor league guys didn't make much, but I had no idea they made less than a burger flipper at mcdonalds...
    It's not that low but its still pretty low and some are sub-minimum wage

    Johnson is among four active minor league players attempting to join a lawsuit against Major League Baseball and its teams, and he's the first active player involved in the case to speak about it publicly. Spearheaded by attorney and former minor leaguer Garrett Broshuis and first filed in February of 2014, the suit currently includes 41 named plaintiffs and is awaiting a second ruling on class-action certification before it can head toward a trial. It seeks to apply the terms of the Fair Labor Standards Act i.e. minimum wage to minor league players, who earn as little as $1100 a month at the rookie level, only get paid during the season, and do not receive overtime pay.
    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/01/mino...t-kyle-johnson

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    Quote Originally Posted by wcd35 View Post
    It's not that low but its still pretty low and some are sub-minimum wage



    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/01/mino...t-kyle-johnson
    Keep in mind many minor leaguers are from Latin America and they do not have the college opportunity. That means most teammates in the minors have a different cultural viewpoint than US guys. That maked it tough in the club house and bus rides. Guys close to finishing their degree need to consider it will be more difficult to graduate if they stay out of the academic world. Jace Conrad was a first team All American and a minor league All Star. Less than three years after playing his last college game, he is our of the sport. Hopefully he can get his degree soon and his experience can help others make the right decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportsfanatic21 View Post
    I think we will be pleasantly surprised at who is back next year.

    I believe Sensley will be gone.

    As for pitchers, the top rounds of the draft are for guys who throw 95+ mph. Culture now is to acquire flamethrowers, use them up, and get some more. If Gunner or Wyatt had another 4-5 mph on their fastballs, I think they'd be gone. But guys who throw 88-92 just don't get drafted high enough to command the money to make it worth it to sign.

    That said, and we all know that these kids dream of playing professional baseball, we've seen it over and over when kids sign just because they are drafted...and are out of baseball within 3 years. I hope, for the Cajuns sake, and even more so, the kids' sake, they don't fall into that trap. Hopefully, Gunner's dad Tim Leger, a 4th round pick out of HS who signed and was playing football at McNeese a few years later will be the example to show Gunner and Wyatt what life in the minors is like when you're not a first round "bonus baby". Hell, even Stryker Trahan from Acadiana HS, drafted in the first round a few years ago is already out of baseball and never made it to the big leagues.

    I have many friends who've played minor league ball, and they all have stories of good times and places they've been, etc., but every one of them have said that minor league baseball is an awful existence. And VERY FEW realize the Major League dream.

    Without life changing money, it's just not worth it if you still have college eligibility remaining.

    We shall see.
    Generally speaking the money as a junior is much better than as a senior due to leverage. He'd have to expect to go many rounds earlier to get more money. At least that's what my medical doctor told me before his son returned for his senior campaign at LSU. Y'all maybe heard of a guy named Poche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Generally speaking the money as a junior is much better than as a senior due to leverage. He'd have to expect to go many rounds earlier to get more money. At least that's what my medical doctor told me before his son returned for his senior campaign at LSU. Y'all maybe heard of a guy named Poche.
    That is why most leave as juniors

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunAmos View Post
    MLB has been reducing signing bonus slots (with players association approval), so the amounts go down much faster than in the past. Keep in mind if you're after the first five or so round you're more filler than prospect. They need guys who can fill minor league team slots (and maybe find an extremely rare diamond) so their true prospects can get playing time. They'll give those prospects multiple chances to fail but not so much for the fillers. Could you live on $600/mo for 4-5 months a year?
    No player signs thinking they are a roster filler for two seasons before they get cut, making 8k per year.

    And yet, they all sign every year. New year. Same thing.

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