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    I personally preferred the bond and sense of ownership of playing for my local community than i think i would have for a "made up nickname" or organization. Even though our competitiveness and skill probably wasnt as good, you are learning more about commitment and teamwork.
    I dont see how they can go to tournaments so early in the season also, i fel it is better to work your way up to that.
    The ex of the select team that was affiliated with a high school makes me think of examples i see today when im not sure if some are real teams or an excuse for a hs coach to get more time with his or her players outside of lhsaa and nfhs guidelines


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    I sure wish I had the time to "throw down"... but other matters are gobbling up my time. I have to "fold like a tulip" on this thread today. I hope this subject doesn't go away. The life metaphors are sprouting all over my brain.


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    Ragin' Cajuns head baseball coach Tony Robichaux spoke at length during a news conference Monday about the lack of toughness in kids who come from select baseball, and it seems to have struck a nerve with people.



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    I only saw one second place trophy thrown in a roadside ditch on the way home from the state tournament in S'Port

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    Years back there was a select soccer team (based out of Lafayette High mostly) that was very good. If they didn't win a tournament, whatever hardware they received was destroyed the next practice.

    Wouldn't happen today.

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    The ex of the select team that was affiliated with a high school makes me think of examples i see today when im not sure if some are real teams or an excuse for a hs coach to get more time with his or her players outside of lhsaa and nfhs guidelines
    While every sport is different in soccer the rule is seven or more players from the same high school cannot workout or play games outside of the designated LHSAA times under the direction of high school coaches or it is considered illegal.

    Actually ran into that situation this past year. US Soccer changed they way they age bracket causing some kids to move to different club teams. One ended up with more than seven players which resulted in a change in coaching. It is my experience that what you are alluding too doesn't happen. The penalties and risk are just too great to take that kind of chance.

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    Here's my unpopular opinion...I do not see anything wrong with recognizing kids for sticking with a team for a season no matter what place they come in. These kids aren't stupid, they know when they win a league or tournament and when they don't. Participation trophies aren't as big of a deal as people make it out to be.

    The problem is the helicopter parents and the ones who put their kids on a pedestal and they were usually on that WINNING team. Growing up those were always the kids who took loosing the worst and who weren't ready for the real world once baseball was over...not the kid who got a stupid little trophy for third place.


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    some California softball and baseball teams it is impossible to tell when they are a prep team and when they are a "travel" team. at least back in the American legion days we changed our shirt.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    While every sport is different in soccer the rule is seven or more players from the same high school cannot workout or play games outside of the designated LHSAA times under the direction of high school coaches or it is considered illegal.

    Actually ran into that situation this past year. US Soccer changed they way they age bracket causing some kids to move to different club teams. One ended up with more than seven players which resulted in a change in coaching. It is my experience that what you are alluding too doesn't happen. The penalties and risk are just too great to take that kind of chance.
    thanks, very good info. along those lines what do you make of 7 on 7 summer football....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad04 View Post
    ""If you're not first, you are last."

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    Dale Earnhardt..."Second place is just the first loser"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    While every sport is different in soccer the rule is seven or more players from the same high school cannot workout or play games outside of the designated LHSAA times under the direction of high school coaches or it is considered illegal.

    Actually ran into that situation this past year. US Soccer changed they way they age bracket causing some kids to move to different club teams. One ended up with more than seven players which resulted in a change in coaching. It is my experience that what you are alluding too doesn't happen. The penalties and risk are just too great to take that kind of chance.
    You hit on an important point. Soccer has ONE national organization. To make the national team, it is pretty much earned on the pitch. Skill and desire go hand in hand.

    Basketball tends to be AAU. But plenty of recruiters and quazi agents.

    Baseball, multiple national organizations. Everyone gets a coke and trophy.

    Yup, LHSAA regulating soccer but 7v7 football thrives. Money to be made.

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    Travel teams in any sport are a net negative on families and a HUGE negative on community building.

    They destroy community youth leagues everywhere.

    They also discourage the kid from playing other sports.


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    If parents would put the money in savings they spend on these travel teams, they would have their kids college paid for. People need to get their priorities straight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MelRock View Post
    If parents would put the money in savings they spend on these travel teams, they would have their kids college paid for. People need to get their priorities straight.
    Then how are they supposed to live vicariously through their kid?

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    On my grandson's high school team you need not apply to play unless you participated in the coaches travel team.


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    As a high school coach I will say, like Coach Robe has, that it is a necessary evil. The issue is the local leagues, at least in our area, have dwindled to where the quality of play is so bad that if a kid is legitimately good they almost cannot stay at the local league and keep up with kids who are playing on travel teams. There are tons of negatives, but if you are going to play against quality opponents, you almost have to play select ball. I just wish they were regulated more. I can tell you this, if you want to keep travel/select ball from becoming even more uncontrollable, then college coaches will have to start recruiting high school games again instead of summer travel tournaments. Logistically I understand why they do it, but it gives credence to the select coaches promising exposure. Then the parents buy into it. Reality is, even if they get a scholarship it won't be much money. As a poster said above. It would be wiser to put that money into a savings account.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoomZoom View Post
    Dale Earnhardt..."Second place is just the first loser"
    I love #3.

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    Not buying it Tex.

    I've heard way too many former MLB guys say that travel teams for youth baseball are not necessary to "keep up" with the other players. They say that what they are best for is burning a kid out on baseball and enabling attitude problems in the ones that don't burn out.

    The truly talented guys will show up in High School no matter how much coaching or travel team participation they've had.

    Youth travel teams in all sports are one big lie, a very expensive and destructive lie.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Textitan View Post
    As a high school coach I will say, like Coach Robe has, that it is a necessary evil. The issue is the local leagues, at least in our area, have dwindled to where the quality of play is so bad that if a kid is legitimately good they almost cannot stay at the local league and keep up with kids who are playing on travel teams. There are tons of negatives, but if you are going to play against quality opponents, you almost have to play select ball. I just wish they were regulated more. I can tell you this, if you want to keep travel/select ball from becoming even more uncontrollable, then college coaches will have to start recruiting high school games again instead of summer travel tournaments. Logistically I understand why they do it, but it gives credence to the select coaches promising exposure. Then the parents buy into it. Reality is, even if they get a scholarship it won't be much money. As a poster said above. It would be wiser to put that money into a savings account.
    The quality of play is so bad because of iPads and the lack of unsupervised baseball in this country. The Dominican kids play all day in the street. The US kids play basketball all day and night, at the playground. The US still dominates pro hoops.

    Our kids simply do not do this anymore:

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelRock View Post
    If parents would put the money in savings they spend on these travel teams, they would have their kids college paid for. People need to get their priorities straight.
    I used to think like you, but the reality is that we as parents are looking for things that our kids have a passion for and can occupy their time. And if you are living in an affluent area, when a kid shows an aptitude for anything there is going to be gobs of time and money thrown to their pursuits. The sad fact is if you do not foster their passions they will not get to enjoy them even at the High School level. Gone are the days of playing at the local playground and then thinking you are making a team when you get to Jesuit. Here in NOLA I challenge you to find a catholic league baseball, soccer, volleyball or basketball player who is not affiliated with a travel team. They exist, but they are a miniscule minority. This same principal also applies to HS dance teams and cheerleaders. Want to be a Dominican Deb or a Brother Martin cheerleader? Your parents better be willing to pay thousands of dollars to get them the proper training. It stinks, but this is the world we live in and I only see it becoming more competitive.

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