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    Should the UL Men's Basketball Staff be Retained ?

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    1) Can we afford not to and 2) Will their replacements be upgrades?

    If the answer to both of these questions is yes, then make the move and start the next era. If either is no, especially 2, let them finish out the contract (one more year if I'm not mistaken? I may be) and evaluate after 2017-18.

    I like Marlin and his teams, so I'm not inclined to make a rash decision, especially after a 20 win season. But I also recognize that the peak for our program at this point is making the field of 64 and being competitive for a game, so if Maggart can afford to make the move and has someone in mind that will get us to that next rung, I'd have no problem with him making that call.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BrockMeaux View Post
    1) Can we afford not to and 2) Will their replacements be upgrades?

    If the answer to both of these questions is yes, then make the move and start the next era. If either is no, especially 2, let them finish out the contract (one more year if I'm not mistaken? I may be) and evaluate after 2017-18.

    I like Marlin and his teams, so I'm not inclined to make a rash decision, especially after a 20 win season. But I also recognize that the peak for our program at this point is making the field of 64 and being competitive for a game, so if Maggart can afford to make the move and has someone in mind that will get us to that next rung, I'd have no problem with him making that call.
    I agree with Brock's questions. I have a different answer.

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    Well, next year Marlin will probably have his best team with the transfers. I say lets see what happens with the guys he brought in then judge.


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    Yes, seven years isn't nearly enough time to evaluate a coach. After all he might get a one time bump next year and qualify for another four year extension with a huge salary bump. Having said that, now is not the time to change horses, next year is no matter how good or bad.

    If folks are happy with average middle of the pack finishes Marlin is your man.

    Amazing how no matter when he is criticized it's always better if we wait. No, give him a full season, no give him a full contract, no let's see how these alleged great transfers perform and then make the call. It is always it's better to kick the Marlin can down the road.

    I've even been told that for UL to be great in basketball again is a piped dream. We are who we are and can never be better due to geography, and current popularity of the sport. Instead I say if we really did pursue we could be in fact a cutting edge much like Shipley was when what he did was far more impossible.


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    Quote Originally Posted by angeleast View Post
    Well, next year Marlin will probably have his best team with the transfers. I say lets see what happens with the guys he brought in then judge.
    He will finish somewhere between third and 8th. He will have a winning D1 record. The team's RPI will be between 90 and 150. We will lose 60% of our games against equal or better talent.

    And most of the people on here will want to renew his contract.

    I would love to be proven wrong, because Marlin is a genuinely good guy who brings in character kids who play hard and represent us with class. But we have a large sample size already of what Marlin is capable of doing.

    Marlin is the Ricky Bustle of UL basketball.

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    Of course yes.


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    .510 in 7 years with no win over a P5.

    Two NBA all stars and he couldn't even win a NCAA tournament game or even get to the NIT.

    To his credit, no one remembers who you play, most just remember he won 20 games most years....so what if it was against the University of Phoenix and I.T.T Tech.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Should the UL Men's Basketball Staff be Retained ?

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    Coaches don't get fired for winning 20 games unless your program is UNC, UCLA, Indiana, etc; Next year will be a huge marker for Coach Marlin with the returning talent on scholarship. In the meantime, it is critically important for Marlin, Maggart and Harris to work together to raise money for MBB going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geaux View Post
    .510 in 7 years with no win over a P5.

    Two NBA all stars and he couldn't even win a NCAA tournament game or even get to the NIT.

    To his credit, no one remembers who you play, most just remember he won 20 games most years....so what if it was against the University of Phoenix and I.T.T Tech.
    Who was our last coach that brought in NBA talent?

    Who was our last coach to win an NCAA Tourney Game?

    Who was our last coach to get to the NIT?

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    Can Maggard insist on a stronger schedule. One with more teams in top 100 RPI instead of division two teams going forward. Wouldn't give him a four year extension until he finishes at least third for two consecutive seasons. He can crank out 20 win seasons pretty easily the way he scheduled.


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    Quote Originally Posted by anhil8tor View Post
    Who was our last coach that brought in NBA talent?

    Who was our last coach to win an NCAA Tourney Game?

    Who was our last coach to get to the NIT?
    Jesse Evans
    Marty Fletcher
    Jesse Evans

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrockMeaux View Post
    1) Can we afford not to and 2) Will their replacements be upgrades?

    If the answer to both of these questions is yes, then make the move and start the next era. If either is no, especially 2, let them finish out the contract (one more year if I'm not mistaken? I may be) and evaluate after 2017
    I believe there are two more years remaining on the contract following this season. I don't expect an extension when this season ends. The current contract is not a factor in recruiting. Note, over 80% of participants to date want the staff retained. I bet the % is higher than that away from Ragin Pagin as the folks I speak to away from this forum are not even aware a change is wanted by some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geaux View Post
    .510 in 7 years with no win over a P5.

    Two NBA all stars and he couldn't even win a NCAA tournament game or even get to the NIT.

    To his credit, no one remembers who you play, most just remember he won 20 games most years....so what if it was against the University of Phoenix and I.T.T Tech.

    We only played 2 non D1 games this year. You are allowed 29 and we played 31 due to the exempt tournament. Therefore we played the conventional no. of games against D1 schools. Now I will not argue that the non conference schedule turned out to be a little weaker than expected. Schools like James Madison and Pepperdine were not as strong as they usually are. We did defeat a conference champion in UNO (won SLC over weekend) and were undefeated vs in state competition.

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    So UNO gets minimum of NIT. Good for them


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    So UNO gets minimum of NIT. Good for them
    Yep, UNO won the conference out right so they will be in NIT. I don't expect them to win the SLC as that will occur in Katy Texas. Texas schools will have somewhat of an advantage as a result. UNO also has a few seniors on their squad so they have been building towards this year. With some guys departing, Plaisance may have a chance to play some there next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lcitsh View Post
    Jesse Evans
    Marty Fletcher
    Jesse Evans
    Did we ever win an NIT game when Jessie was the coach? I don't think so. When we played in the NIT during the Jessie years, conference champions who did not win their tournament did not get an automatic bid to the NIT so things were a little different. I do like the new rule as it gives good mid majors another chance to play with the middle of the pack Big 6 schools (P5 + Big East is Big 6).

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    Quote Originally Posted by lcitsh View Post
    Jesse Evans
    Marty Fletcher
    Jesse Evans
    Jesse got talent we can't have now. His way of doing things died with the introduction of the APR. Thus, his struggles at San Francisco.

    And I wouldn't trade Marlin for Marty. Ever.

    I know you're just answering questions. Just putting in my two cents

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