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    Quote Originally Posted by anhil8tor View Post
    Ok.. I see the argument here.. but what has been our past coaches records on hits and misses?
    Only one record matters and he hasn't been very good at that overall either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelRock View Post
    Stop with the BS that Marlin got "lucky" with those two players. No one recruited Elfrid and Marlin saw something in him when he was a junior. EP is the hardest working player I have watched.(Bryce is stepping up big time.) But do you think Marlin could have used is "connections" if Elfrid was good enough to be on those teams? Not only make the team but to start every game for team USA?
    As for Shawn he has said on multiple accounts that UL was his first choice and listened to some people that he should not have listened to. Shawn developed as a player because of the coaches we have here and they should get credit for it.
    I suppose next Marlin got lucky on Bartley coming here along with the 3 transfers this year. If you do not think college basketball is about building relationships and using them to your advantage you are a fool.
    There's nothing wrong with being lucky from time to time. I thought Jesse was a great recruiter, and he got lucky with Southal. Shipley got lucky with Lamar who he discovered on a recruiting trip for another player. He got Ivory because Ivory wanted to integrate a deep south team.

    We have gotten lots of players under a lucky star. There's nothing wrong with a coach cashing in on luck.

    I'm sorry you thought I was belittling EP by bolstering Marlin for using his contacts and basketball savvy to get him the opportunities. There were multiple articles about Marlins important role in getting him those opportunities.

    No matter what Long said he left Moo State to be near his family. I'm assuming his coach wouldn't approve an LSU transfer. That pretty much leaves us competing with Southetn, UNO (dropping from div 1),Lamers, Nicholas, BrokeBack U to be near his family. In effect the only potential suitor worthy of Long would us and TooLame. So that's not a world of choices.

    And yes, until his senior year there was constant concern he'd chunck it all and go home. Gave Marlin a lot of credit for keeping Sean focused in spite of people trying to get him to quit.

    So in the end Marlin was fortunate that many important basketball programs ignored EP age and class designation much like McGuire. He was fortunate Long realized he made a mistake leaving his family so far away. He took advantage of good fortune and really was a big part in the success of both these players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunAmos View Post
    I in the middle on Marlin so far, but having the most NBA players on your college team without high levels of success could be a knock, not a success. JMO
    Good point.

    Before this season, I was feeling pretty down about Marlin too. Felt "above average" was ok with him.

    Hope that's not the case. I'm not okay with settling for above average.

    Maybe Marlin and Hud both have a fire lit under them by the uncertainty of AD and the willingness to take athletics seriously that T-Joe has shown.

    It's time for next level thinking. The kind of thinking that possessed Tony Robichaux to walk into a job interview and say "Here's what I need you to provide me with to win the national championship here."

    Absolutely no reason we shouldn't be knocking on the door of the NY6 every year, or in multiple sweet 16's.

    Bout time we started acting like it.

    Rant over (maybe).

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    Jeez half that thread was boomer describing how he invented basketball by nailing two peach baskets to the rafters or something.
    Is that also Boomer doing the Dr. Pepper commercials? Cause he invented the college playoffs!

    Go Boomer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moorecajun View Post
    Is that also Boomer doing the Dr. Pepper commercials? Cause he invented the college playoffs!

    Go Boomer!
    --Now that I think of it ---the old St Louis gym was very old looking and haven't seen the Dr Pepper deal yet---Lookin' forward to a great Spring Sports season---Waiting for the first negative post on the new AD, the baseball whatever, and the softball season

    I think we are sitting pretty at this time and can't wait to sit in my new seats in the Russo!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Justin Miller is another recruit that is doing better than expected. You can probably add Roydell Brown to that list as well. In previous years, Bryant Mbamalu and Kasey Shepherd did better than expected. On the other hand, Heyward Register did not work out as well as we had hoped. You could say the same for Scottie Plaisance. That is the recruiting game. Hopefully the team we have now is indicative of what we will have going forward. With only one senior on this squad and three highly regarded transfers coming in as well as highly regarded recruit (he could be a bust-who knows), there is optimism for at least the next two years. You never know if chemistry will be an issue with those teams though. That appears to be a positive now. Someone asked to give examples of when people were wrong here. I provided some examples. The one I chuckle the most about was the view we would be the worst team in Louisiana this year as it occurred after a 70 point blowout. I can give you some more. Many people predicted the basketball team would win around ten games this year. They presented those as facts, not opinions as they were so sure the program was headed in the wrong direction. I predicted 17. Hopefully I am wrong as well there. I can give you another one that was wrong and it was something I said. I said the OL for the Cajuns football team would be improved this year. That crow tastes rancid.
    I understand crow has to be cooked over a low heat for a long time. The only way to get rid of the rancid taste is too drink a lot of bourbon; I thought that was why we had the bourbon thread?

    Just kidding. What we need more than someone being right or wrong is to enjoy what we have! This team is good, getting better and should continue getting better. This is a good time to go out and watch them develop right in front of our eyes.

    Just to give my .02, I saw development in Scottie; it's just (as someone else pointed out) we brought in players after him that were better fits on our team. He may very well have a good career at another school. So he was not a bad signee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    It wasn't a personal dig at mike, it's just the way I see it, I get it and like I said nothing wrong with it.
    I don't think you meant it as harsh as it sounded. But in all honesty, Mike is not a puff for the program. He is about as informed and respectful as I've ever met. He chooses not to post ultra derogatory comments... but he is a very straight forward basketball fan/observer. I value his opinion on UL MBB about as much as anyone I've met. He will listen to your counter opinion and give it thought. That is a rare quality on this forum. He is not a blind cheerleader for MBB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    I don't think you meant it as harsh as it sounded. But in all honesty, Mike is not a puff for the program. He is about as informed and respectful as I've ever met. He chooses not to post ultra derogatory comments... but he is a very straight forward basketball fan/observer. I value his opinion on UL MBB about as much as anyone I've met. He will listen to your counter opinion and give it thought. That is a rare quality on this forum. He is not a blind cheerleader for MBB.
    I didn't mean it to be harsh at all, people that are very close to a situation usually see it through different lenses than people that arent...neither are right or wrong...just different. Whe you start knowing these coaches and players on a personal level..it's very different...nothing wrong with it at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    I didn't mean it to be harsh at all, people that are very close to a situation usually see it through different lenses than people that arent...neither are right or wrong...just different. Whe you start knowing these coaches and players on a personal level..it's very different...nothing wrong with it at all.
    I can agree with that. When you know guys personally, you naturally pull harder for them to succeed.

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    I'm starting to lean towards pro Marlin.


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    Fire Bobby Bigfish!!!!


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    That sounds EXPRESSLY familiar...

    Not sure where I heard it before though.

    Quote Originally Posted by HOUCajun View Post
    Fire Bobby Bigfish!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moorecajun View Post
    Is that also Boomer doing the Dr. Pepper commercials? Cause he invented the college playoffs!

    Go Boomer!
    In a fever dream!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    I'm excited about where we are...and where we are heading, finally. Add in all the new guys this year that appear to be good gets and Marlin has still missed a whole lot more than he has hit in recruiting...like a lot more. So to hear the same passive aggressive comnenta everytime someone says how much they like pj Hardy only puts a negative connotation on Hardy and what the team is doing IMO. To hear how good of a recruiter Marlin is everytime Hardy is mentioned is silly...he appears to have hit on Hardy, that doesn't make him a good recruiter. It's also very early in their careers, let's see how they develope...hell let's see if they are still here in a couple years.
    It seems to me that you are taking things to unnecessary extremes. Nobody all of a sudden was claiming Marlin is a great recruiter. Mike was only mentioning that while he is criticized, and rightfully so, for the roster attrition we've had, he should be complimented along with the rest of the staff on the value they saw in Hardy.

    I've banged on Marlin a lot over the last couple of years and nothing he does now will change what I thought about his job in those previous years but its good to see a winner and this team is fun to watch. I'll watch every game this year and appreciate it for what it is, a great year hopefully. Nothing more nothing less and it doesn't mean we will be some sort of juggernaut next year either. The staff and players need to find a way to catch that lightning in a bottle from this year and build upon it next year which will be a chore in itself.

    Having a good year this year doesn't put all those Marlin detractors in their place so to speak either. Like I said, its one good year mixed in what some not so good results. Hopefully we build upon it and get better. Give me a few of these type of years with some consistency and decent signature wins and I'll admit I was wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    It seems to me that you are taking things to unnecessary extremes. Nobody all of a sudden was claiming Marlin is a great recruiter. Mike was only mentioning that while he is criticized, and rightfully so, for the roster attrition we've had, he should be complimented along with the rest of the staff on the value they saw in Hardy.

    I've banged on Marlin a lot over the last couple of years and nothing he does now will change what I thought about his job in those previous years but its good to see a winner and this team is fun to watch. I'll watch every game this year and appreciate it for what it is, a great year hopefully. Nothing more nothing less and it doesn't mean we will be some sort of juggernaut next year either. The staff and players need to find a way to catch that lightning in a bottle from this year and build upon it next year which will be a chore in itself.

    Having a good year this year doesn't put all those Marlin detractors in their place so to speak either. Like I said, its one good year mixed in what some not so good results. Hopefully we build upon it and get better. Give me a few of these type of years with some consistency and decent signature wins and I'll admit I was wrong.
    It wasn't just the comments in this thread, I'm not taking anything to the extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    It wasn't just the comments in this thread, I'm not taking anything to the extreme.
    Um, Ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    Um, Ok
    Um ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    Um ok
    I can't handle these extremes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    I can't handle these extremes.
    Umm okk

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