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    Rpi at 82 after today's gane


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    Default Re: Basketball Games of Interest: 1/7/2016

    The teams we have already played went 5-7. While this is not good, it is actually about the same percentage as the record already in the books for our opponents. The wins by GaSt, Little Rock and GaSo will also help us later in the season. The AState loss will hurt us later.

    I expect our RPI to remain about the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    The teams we have already played went 5-7. While this is not good, it is actually about the same percentage as the record already in the books for our opponents. The wins by GaSt, Little Rock and GaSo will also help us later in the season. The AState loss will hurt us later.

    I expect our RPI to remain about the same.
    It fell to 82 according to Warren nolan

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragincajun97 View Post
    Rpi at 82 after today's gane
    That number is from Warren Nolan, and is not official. The latest official NCAA number is not out yet; it usually comes out midmorning the day following games. Yesterday we were at 73. I expect that to remain more or less the same. It may change slightly, but I do not anticipate a number out of the 70's either way, although Nolan had us the same as NCAA did yesterday, and 82 is not a major stretch.

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    Okay, so what is Nichols RPI now?


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    Default Re: Basketball Games of Interest: 1/7/2016

    82 damn


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    Quote Originally Posted by LaCajunsFan View Post
    Thanks guys for the clarification. Just when I think I understand it I realize I really don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    That number is from Warren Nolan, and is not official. The latest official NCAA number is not out yet; it usually comes out midmorning the day following games. Yesterday we were at 73. I expect that to remain more or less the same. It may change slightly, but I do not anticipate a number out of the 70's either way, although Nolan had us the same as NCAA did yesterday, and 82 is not a major stretch.
    can you give us a link to the official one? Thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaCajunsFan View Post
    can you give us a link to the official one? Thx
    It is on www.ncaa.com

    It still has not updated. Maybe it won't until tomorrow.

    From the home page go to Sports, then
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    Find the link for Rankings, then tap the droplIst and select RPI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    It is on www.ncaa.com

    It still has not updated. Maybe it won't until tomorrow.

    From the home page go to Sports, then
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    Men.

    Find the link for Rankings, then tap the droplIst and select RPI.
    Thanks. That's what I was using, but wanted to confirm. There are sure a bunch of different sites out there......I guess they have different processes to try to rank teams/conferences?

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    This is the only one that's official.

    http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/weekly...17MBBrpi3.html

    Through Games of: Jan. 7, 2017
    Generated: Sunday 01/08/17 12:01 PM

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    Rank Prev Rank Name Conf W-L Road Neut Home Non-Div I
    46 35 UT Arlington Sun Belt 12-4 6-4 0-0 4-0 2-0
    62 49 Arkansas St. Sun Belt 11-5 4-4 1-1 5-0 1-0
    82 73 Louisiana Sun Belt 12-4 4-4 0-0 6-0 2-0
    102 117 Ga. Southern Sun Belt 9-6 3-5 2-0 2-1 2-0
    104 116 Georgia St. Sun Belt 8-6 1-5 2-0 3-1 2-0
    202 231 Coastal Caro. Sun Belt 7-9 1-5 1-0 3-4 2-0
    208 222 Little Rock Sun Belt 11-5 3-2 2-1 4-2 2-0
    224 218 South Ala. Sun Belt 8-7 2-4 0-0 4-3 2-0
    247 245 Troy Sun Belt 8-8 1-7 2-0 3-1 2-0
    265 247 Appalachian St. Sun Belt 5-9 1-7 0-0 2-2 2-0
    291 324 Texas St. Sun Belt 9-6 1-4 2-0 4-2 2-0
    295 290 La.-Monroe Sun Belt 6-10 1-7 0-3 3-0 2-0


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    Got to be fair to the women:

    http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/weekly...17WBBrpi3.html

    46 64 UT Arlington Sun Belt 10-3 3-2 1-0 4-1 2-0
    53 63 Little Rock Sun Belt 10-6 5-4 0-0 5-2 0-0
    109 113 Troy Sun Belt 10-4 4-3 2-0 2-1 2-0
    168 163 Appalachian St. Sun Belt 7-8 3-5 1-0 3-3 0-0
    178 204 South Ala. Sun Belt 7-7 3-3 1-1 1-3 2-0
    180 162 Louisiana Sun Belt 8-4 2-2 1-1 3-1 2-0
    240 240 Texas St. Sun Belt 6-8 2-4 0-0 4-3 0-1
    249 224 Georgia St. Sun Belt 5-9 2-2 1-2 1-5 1-0
    267 268 Coastal Caro. Sun Belt 6-8 2-5 1-0 2-2 1-1
    314 316 Ga. Southern Sun Belt 4-10 1-5 0-0 2-5 1-0
    318 314 Arkansas St. Sun Belt 3-13 0-8 1-2 2-3 0-0
    339 343 La.-Monroe Sun Belt 3-11 1-7 0-0 0-4 2-0


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    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyCajun View Post
    Okay, so what is Nichols RPI now?
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    Cajuns fall to 83 today, per Warren Nolan; NCAA not yet updated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Nicholls State was ahead of us the other day but I am not sure where they are now. Their victory over Boston College which plays in the ACC (lost to Duke by 9 today) really helps them in RPI. The fact they are ahead of us shows the tool is not perfect when comparing teams. We beat Nicholls by 30 and would win at least 9 of ten against them. Their loss today with our win may make us tops in the state at this stage.
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    Home/Road is more severe in basketball. Totally missed that note in the formula I was looking at

    Nicholls had a great RPI because their Strength of Schedule was #6 late last week. They played a good deal of teams with great W/L records. Even having a record just over .500, they were boosted by the other factors in the formula.

    You are right though, it is not a perfect tool. Also, it does improve as more teams play each other as GoneGolfin notes in baseball discussions

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    Quote Originally Posted by wcd35 View Post
    It's the standard .25 WP/.50 OWP/.25 OOWP without the home and road factors that BSB has.
    Wow. That is strange. Seems basketball should have a bigger home/road component as it seems to be much harder to win on the road in basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajundiehard View Post
    Wow. That is strange. Seems basketball should have a bigger home/road component as it seems to be much harder to win on the road in basketball.
    There is a home/away adjustment to the formula. Not sure exactly what it is. I have always felt there should be an adjustment to the formula so as it is 1/3 for all three factors. Reason for that is mid majors do not get the opportunity to have TV schools come to their place. If you are in a major conference you do. That is why teams that are 6 and 10 in major leagues get considered for the tourney as they likely pulled a big home upset. Like most things in the NCAA, things are set to help the major teams. That is life and you just have to overcome it. I simply point this out for fans of major schools. Some of which I have little respect for as they do not play out of conference road games. LSU is an example. The only true non conference road game they played was at Wake Forest. Other than Houston, all of their home games in non-conference were rent-a-wins (paid opponent to go to Baton Rouge without having to make a return visit). Not picking on the Tigers specifically, but that is common for many schools in the major leagues and many of their fans are not even aware of this advantage. Another way the RPI could be improved is to give less credence to home rent-a-wins. In other words a home win in a game in which you return the visit the next year would carry more weight than one in which you simply pay the opponent to show up. I bet that would change the scheduling approach for many teams and the tool would then become a more accurate representation of the strength of teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajundiehard View Post
    Wow. That is strange. Seems basketball should have a bigger home/road component as it seems to be much harder to win on the road in basketball.
    Yep, I missed the note on that formula. That is my bad.

    The home road factors in baseball are 1.3 and 0.7.

    Basketball is 1.4 and 0.6. Even harsher penalty for a home loss and bigger reward for road win. That affects the first portion of the formula (your win percentage)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaCajunsFan View Post
    Thanks. That's what I was using, but wanted to confirm. There are sure a bunch of different sites out there......I guess they have different processes to try to rank teams/conferences?
    And here is another one for your perusal: TeamRankings.com

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