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    Wouldn't have guessed the top RPI team in LA is Nicholls until I looked at their schedule. They have the number 6 non-conf SOS. The RPI will keep falling now of course in conference. Their OWP is pretty high (got an ok ACC team in BC, a great ACC team in FSU, a really good UCF, a WCC team in USD, Samford with a good record and our good record on there.) FSU is the only team to beat them worse than we did.

    Texas Southern is another team we played with a good RPI, though they don't help us too much because their WP isn't great. Their RPI is top 60

    Minnesota as well helps obviously
    Texas Southern winning percentage isn't that high due to the fact they played 14 straight road games. That is how they fund their program. Their winning % will improve greatly now that are starting conference play. I expect they will be the top SWAC team once again.

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    Texas Southern winning percentage isn't that high due to the fact they played 14 straight road games. That is how they fund their program. Their winning % will improve greatly now that are starting conference play. I expect they will be the top SWAC team once again.
    Oh wow, that is a crazy schedule. Played some top teams as well (Louisville, Baylor, Arizona.)

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    We played Texas Southern as part of that tournament. Did they request to play all of their tournament games on the road?


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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    It is no doubt good for Wisconsin, but it is RPI neutral for us. our OOR picked up a win and a loss.
    Yeah,I was thinking of Minnesota. Tonight UGA lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Yeah,I was thinking of Minnesota. Tonight UGA lost.
    UGA lost, Texas Southern won.

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    Cajuns RPI went up this morning to 74 from 81; thanks to a 5-2 performance by Cajuns OOC opponents last night.

    For a school not in a power conference, it cannot be emphasized enough how important it is to play winning programs in non-conference games.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    ...For a school not in a power conference, it cannot be emphasized enough how important it is to play winning programs in non-conference games.
    Yep. IMHO, you can never have too tough a non-conference schedule with the exception of a very young team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    Yep. IMHO, you can never have too tough a non-conference schedule with the exception of a very young team.
    It doesn't have to be a tough schedule for RPI purposes. It has to be against teams with wins. Two very different things. Stay away from the bottom feeders at any level. Play teams that historically have had winning records. Doesn't matter if they are in the SWAC or SEC.

    You also have to stay away from the teams that consistently have horrible records. Softball was guilty of this for many years because they didn't understand the significance of playing a three game series against a team that was going to lose 30 games before the year was out and add 90 loses to your OWP.

    There are obviously reasons to play a tough non-conference schedule but not in regards to RPI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    It doesn't have to be a tough schedule for RPI purposes. It has to be against teams with wins. Two very different things. Stay away from the bottom feeders at any level. Play teams that historically have had winning records. Doesn't matter if they are in the SWAC or SEC.

    You also have to stay away from the teams that consistently have horrible records. Softball was guilty of this for many years because they didn't understand the significance of playing a three game series against a team that was going to lose 30 games before the year was out and add 90 loses to your OWP.

    There are obviously reasons to play a tough non-conference schedule but not in regards to RPI.
    So, just doing a quick check, a couple of our ooc's are doing ok: Nichols is 67, mckyneese 167.....but Pepperdine is now 241 and @ruston is in the toilet with 261, and I believe ulm is 283. So even if we win tomorrow will our rpi suffer?

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    So, just doing a quick check, a couple of our ooc's are doing ok: Nichols is 67, mckyneese 167.....but Pepperdine is now 241 and @ruston is in the toilet with 261, and I believe ulm is 283. So even if we win tomorrow will our rpi suffer?
    We would be adding 10 loses to 7 wins so no it isn't going to help. Keep in mind that the RPI number itself doesn't calculate into your RPI. It is opponents and opponents opponents winning percentage that matters. You also have to consider that our record gets added to our opponents once we play them. That in itself helps out their OWP.

    However, I do think it might prove difficult to keep climbing the RPI ladder due to things outside of our control. At this stage there is only one thing we control and that is wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaCajunsFan View Post
    So, just doing a quick check, a couple of our ooc's are doing ok: Nichols is 67, mckyneese 167.....but Pepperdine is now 241 and @ruston is in the toilet with 261, and I believe ulm is 283. So even if we win tomorrow will our rpi suffer?
    Don't look at their RPI, look at their record against D1 teams. @ruston is currently 8-5, if they continue to win at that rate they won't hurt us. McNeese is 3-8, UNO is 5-6, Nicholls is 5-6. ULM hurts more because we play them twice. Pepperdine is 4-10. James Madison is 4-11. Aside from Minnesota and Possibly Georgia, the best team we have played for RPI purposes is Texas Southern. They are currently 6-9 against D1 teams, but will probably end the season with not more than 2 or 3 more losses. If I were scheduling, I would still schedule Pepperdine and JMU, because they are traditionally pretty good, but having horrible years. I would keep Tech and Texas Southern as well. The SLC schools we schedule are marginal, at best, though I do expect UNO and Nichols to have decent years this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    We would be adding 10 loses to 7 wins so no it isn't going to help. Keep in mind that the RPI number itself doesn't calculate into your RPI. It is opponents and opponents opponents winning percentage that matters. You also have to consider that our record gets added to our opponents once we play them. That in itself helps out their OWP.

    However, I do think it might prove difficult to keep climbing the RPI ladder due to things outside of our control. At this stage there is only one thing we control and that is wins.
    Thanks guys for the clarification. Just when I think I understand it I realize I really don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaCajunsFan View Post
    Thanks guys for the clarification. Just when I think I understand it I realize I really don't.
    Understanding it in principle doesn't necessarily mean that one understands exactly how much effect playing a given team will have. It is just too complex to follow that accurately without a computer doing the calculations. Still, certain generalities will almost always be true.

    1. It is always better to win than to lose any given game; but sometimes it is better to not play the game than to win it. [This latter usually does not apply to basketball, because games are seldom cancelled due to weather or other reasons.]

    2. Since opponents record is 50% of your RPI, the most important thing is to schedule teams that will win much more than they lose.

    3. You will seldom win on all three parts of RPI in any given game. [Extreme example: you are not likely to beat Kansas on the road and benefit by your win, their record, and their opponents' records.] The best teams to schedule are those in which you have a high probability of pleasing your fans by winning, while still winning the second part, being your opponent's record. This way you win 75% of the RPI battle and take your chances on the other 25%. That is what makes Texas Southern a good team to schedule.

    4. It is good to play teams your fans love to hate, but only if they are not detrimental to your RPI. @ruston usually fits into this slot. They can be depended upon to be decent most of the time, and they play in a conference that wont kill you in the opponent's opponents part of RPI, so you will generally get a modest RPI boost from playing them.

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    Appreciate you doing the legwork on this VO. Good info.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragin4U View Post
    Appreciate you doing the legwork on this VO. Good info.
    Gonegolfing is the real RPI guru on RP. I am sure he could point out flaws in what I said, and add more helpful information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    Gonegolfing is the real RPI guru on RP. I am sure he could point out flaws in what I said, and add more helpful information.
    Both of you guys have given great info. Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    Gonegolfing is the real RPI guru on RP. I am sure he could point out flaws in what I said, and add more helpful information.
    I was about to post you are the Gone Golfin of UL Basketball.

    I will do it.

    You are the Gone Golfin of UL Basketball.

    Happy New Year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moorecajun View Post
    I was about to post you are the Gone Golfin of UL Basketball.

    I will do it.

    You are the Gone Golfin of UL Basketball.

    Happy New Year.
    I am very flattered. Thank you.

    Happy New Year to you as well.

    By the way, our RPI today is 73, one spot better than yesterday; the RPI gods smiled on us last night in some mysterious way.

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    73 awesome! How is that in reference to other state teams?


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