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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    Cajuns RPI jumped an incredible 32 spots to 80 today.
    We played two of the three the best WL pct teams in the conference to start, so it's an instant boost regardless of winning or losing. Also, with an unbalanced conference schedule, we don't play everyone twice. So to our RPI benefit, we get 2 games vs LR, ArkSt and UTA but only have to play CCU and App once (2/3 teams with losing records in the SBC.) We also don't play Troy and USA twice

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    so now we like threads about rankings again? or are we only supposed to hate rankings posts or threads if it is from boomer? or was it a new yrs resolution?


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    Quote Originally Posted by wcd35 View Post
    We played two of the three the best WL pct teams in the conference to start, so it's an instant boost regardless of winning or losing. Also, with an unbalanced conference schedule, we don't play everyone twice. So to our RPI benefit, we get 2 games vs LR, ArkSt and UTA but only have to play CCU and App once (2/3 teams with losing records in the SBC.) We also don't play Troy and USA twice
    On target.

    Think on this also: UTA and the Cajuns played West Coast Conference teams, so not only do we get whatever their records will be (OWP), we also get Gonzaga and the rest of the conference (OOWP). On the flip side, those of us who played Texas Southern will get whatever their record will be, we also get the rest of the SWAC, who all currently have losing records.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lcitsh View Post
    On target.

    Think on this also: UTA and the Cajuns played West Coast Conference teams, so not only do we get whatever their records will be (OWP), we also get Gonzaga and the rest of the conference (OOWP). On the flip side, those of us who played Texas Southern will get whatever their record will be, we also get the rest of the SWAC, who all currently have losing records.
    This was a huge reason the MVC was able to build their conference RPI through the years, smart scheduling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lcitsh View Post
    On target.

    Think on this also: UTA and the Cajuns played West Coast Conference teams, so not only do we get whatever their records will be (OWP), we also get Gonzaga and the rest of the conference (OOWP). On the flip side, those of us who played Texas Southern will get whatever their record will be, we also get the rest of the SWAC, who all currently have losing records.
    In order to get Gonzaga and St. Marys we played a 3-9 Pepperdine that will likely end up at 7-23. Texas Southern will be better for our RPI than Pepperdine, because of the 50% weight given to OR as compared to the 25% for OOR. UTA will profit from the WCC because they played and beat a 12-1 St. Marys who will likely end up 27-4 or 26-5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wcd35 View Post
    We played two of the three the best WL pct teams in the conference to start, so it's an instant boost regardless of winning or losing. Also, with an unbalanced conference schedule, we don't play everyone twice. So to our RPI benefit, we get 2 games vs LR, ArkSt and UTA but only have to play CCU and App once (2/3 teams with losing records in the SBC.) We also don't play Troy and USA twice
    Where we really profit from the unbalanced schedule is if the schools we play twice can have a winning record against the teams we play once. Since Coastal and Appy are both weak, that is very likely to happen in their case, and I don't think Troy and USA will both have winning conference records either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    In order to get Gonzaga and St. Marys we played a 3-9 Pepperdine that will likely end up at 7-23. Texas Southern will be better for our RPI than Pepperdine, because of the 50% weight given to OR as compared to the 25% for OOR. UTA will profit from the WCC because they played and beat a 12-1 St. Marys who will likely end up 27-4 or 26-5.
    True, but Pepperdine is usually a pretty good program. It's not like we were trying to schedule a dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 31Ragin97 View Post
    so now we like threads about rankings again? or are we only supposed to hate rankings posts or threads if it is from boomer? or was it a new yrs resolution?
    We are not having perception discussions; we are having reality discussions, that can have real, immediate and measurable effects on our program. We have a realistic chance of winning the conference this year. If we do, the difference between having an RPI of 55 [as some have projected us this year] and an RPI of 130, which is where we usually are, is getting an 11 or 12 seed instead of a 15 or 16. That is huge, as it will give us an opening round game against what is likely an overrated SEC or Big 10 school instead of a Kansas or Louisville.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlappyCajun View Post
    True, but Pepperdine is usually a pretty good program. It's not like we were trying to schedule a dog.
    True, and the same is true of James Madison. Just a case of bad luck for us this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    We are not having perception discussions; we are having reality discussions, that can have real, immediate and measurable effects on our program. We have a realistic chance of winning the conference this year. If we do, the difference between having an RPI of 55 [as some have projected us this year] and an RPI of 130, which is where we usually are, is getting an 11 or 12 seed instead of a 15 or 16. That is huge, as it will give us an opening round game against what is likely an overrated SEC or Big 10 school instead of a Kansas or Louisville.
    makes sense, thanks for clarifying

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    Dies anyone know if our rip changed yet following the LR game?


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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    True, and the same is true of James Madison. Just a case of bad luck for us this year.
    James Madison is playing better now than when we played them. They beat Towson last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaCajunsFan View Post
    Dies anyone know if our rip changed yet following the LR game?
    Yes. It went from 112 to 80.

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    James Madison is playing better now than when we played them. They beat Towson last night.
    They have won their last 3, but one of those was non D1. They are 3-11 against D1 teams. Of course, every time they win it helps us.

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    Wisconsin wins tonight against Indiana. That's a good thing. They're 13/2.


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    Wisconsin wins tonight against Indiana. That's a good thing. They're 13/2.
    It is no doubt good for Wisconsin, but it is RPI neutral for us. our OOR picked up a win and a loss.

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    Today's RPI update:

    UTA: 33
    AState: 45
    Louisiana: 81
    GaSt: 117
    GaSo: 127
    USA: 205
    Little Rock: 228
    Coastal: 231
    Troy: 236
    Appy: 253
    ULM: 297
    TxSt: 323

    As an aside: Our RPI would also be the third best in the WCC, behind Gonzaga and St. Mary's, but ahead of BYU.


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    Wouldn't have guessed the top RPI team in LA is Nicholls until I looked at their schedule. They have the number 6 non-conf SOS. The RPI will keep falling now of course in conference. Their OWP is pretty high (got an ok ACC team in BC, a great ACC team in FSU, a really good UCF, a WCC team in USD, Samford with a good record and our good record on there.) FSU is the only team to beat them worse than we did.

    Texas Southern is another team we played with a good RPI, though they don't help us too much because their WP isn't great. Their RPI is top 60

    Minnesota as well helps obviously


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    Quote Originally Posted by wcd35 View Post
    Wouldn't have guessed the top RPI team in LA is Nicholls until I looked at their schedule. They have the number 6 non-conf SOS. The RPI will keep falling now of course in conference. Their OWP is pretty high (got an ok ACC team in BC, a great ACC team in FSU, a really good UCF, a WCC team in USD, Samford with a good record and our good record on there.) FSU is the only team to beat them worse than we did.

    Texas Southern is another team we played with a good RPI, though they don't help us too much because their WP isn't great. Their RPI is top 60

    Minnesota as well helps obviously
    Texas Southern winning percentage isn't that high due to the fact they played 14 straight road games. That is how they fund their program. Their winning % will improve greatly now that are starting conference play. I expect they will be the top SWAC team once again.

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    Texas Southern winning percentage isn't that high due to the fact they played 14 straight road games. That is how they fund their program. Their winning % will improve greatly now that are starting conference play. I expect they will be the top SWAC team once again.
    Oh wow, that is a crazy schedule. Played some top teams as well (Louisville, Baylor, Arizona.)

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