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    Hopefully the young man from Eunice will upgrade the center position...and I know that there are several JC or prep school tackles on the recruiting list. While the guards are young and improving, I wonder if any of them can pull, target, and hit anyone outside of a 10 yard window...


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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    Not neccassarily. Good pass protection comes from length and agility more than strength. Run blocking requires to to create gaps and move people off of their spots. In pass protection OL catches the pass rush and just has to hold ground. It's more finess than anything else.
    You know way more than I do about offensive linemen... but I kind of doubt we'll recruit "pass blockers" in lieu of "road graders". What I think is lacking is two things: 1) too much focus on the big shadow a recruit casts - without focus on his agility, and 2) the ability to coach BOTH pass blocking and road grading. I'm hoping that 1 and 2 failed somewhat this year due to the inexperience of the OL... and we'll see marked improved next year.

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    Improving the OL should be the No. 1 priority in the off season. It was not only an issue last night but in several earlier games as well. Every time we were in a long yardage situation, I cringed for Jennings last night as I knew he was about to be pummeled. It does not matter who the QB is or how the offensive play calling goes, it will be meaningless unless play in that unit improves. Discussing anything else may have valid issues brought up but it pales in comparison to this need.
    I completely agree, Mike. But Jennings has proven to be adequate against inferior opponents... just like our OL... and inadequate against better opponents... just like our OL. I thought he would have a little better escapability than he does. And despite knowing he has a good arm... he thew a lot of wounded ducks. I'll give some of the problems he had to the OL... but when UL faces better opponents... even in the SBC... we are going to have to have a playmaker at QB. We don't run a cerebral system. We're probably never going to amaze people with pass protection under Hud. We need the second coming of Brian Mitchell for Hud to "earn his million".

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    what kinds of things can be done in the offseason, to improve it?

    I thought it was said size isn't our particular problem.


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    what kinds of things can be done in the offseason, to improve it?

    I thought it was said size isn't our particular problem.
    ---Tell ya what---we need 2-3 LBs cause the guys we lost were VERY VERY GOOD players!!!

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    I don't think we need "the second coming of Brian Mitchell." That's a little bit much. We just need a serviceable QB. Gauthier and Broadway had success under Hud, so it's not impossible. Unfortunately we fell for the "He sucked in the SEC but he will dominate against the inferior SunBelt" trick. And we got burned


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    I don't think we need "the second coming of Brian Mitchell." That's a little bit much. We just need a serviceable QB. Gauthier and Broadway had success under Hud, so it's not impossible. Unfortunately we fell for the "He sucked in the SEC but he will dominate against the inferior SunBelt" trick. And we got burned
    Was that quote from Hud? "He sucked in the SEC but he will dominate against the inferior SBC"? And yes... Hud better shoot for a Brian Mitchell. Both Blaine and Terrance got hurt in Hud's offense. Hud needs the arm, legs, head, and power of a Brian Mitchell. Hud is not a cerebral coach. As you witnessed... he thought Anthony Jennings "sucked in SEC... but would dominate at UL". Right? Or did Hud get trumped by a Ragin Pagin fan and forced to use a different QB than he wanted?

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    Until this offense can establish a passing game, this team will always be mediocre, able to beat poor teams, not able to compete with top G5 or middle P5. I don't see it happening under Hud. Too many problems for him to overcome including his own philosophy.


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    Default Re: Luke Johnson: Cajuns are close, but they won't turn the corner until they get better at QB

    Luke is correct.

    There were a few game turning plays where Jennings had all the time he needed, the receivers were open, and he wasn't close. The TV announcers saw this , and Luke saw this.

    This is why I HATE worshiping at the altar of the "dual threat" QB.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    Luke is correct.

    There were a few game turning plays where Jennings had all the time he needed, the receivers were open, and he wasn't close. The TV announcers saw this , and Luke saw this.

    This is why I HATE worshiping at the altar of the "dual threat" QB.
    I'm with you. I want a QB, if he can run then great. But I'd rather have a guy who could carve up a defense and make heady decisions than a guy who wows at a combine.

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    Until this offense can establish a passing game, this team will always be mediocre, able to beat poor teams, not able to compete with top G5 or middle P5. I don't see it happening under Hud. Too many problems for him to overcome including his own philosophy.
    I think most of us are thinking the same thing. Hud is content competing for a bowl. That doesn't require we beat any P5... or maybe even a top G5 program on our schedule. He is not going to veer from his basic philosophy. It worked in his first 4 years... so he is basically trying to reconstitute that capability. I do not see him ever moving into a change in approach that will slay a top G5 or anything but a floundering P5.

    To even get back to Hud's first 4 years... one that most have forgotten were not spectacular in any regard... we must recruit better QBs. I'm not stupid about all of the other essentials... but in watching Hud's system closely for 6 years... he requires hitting the jackpot with skill players. He isn't building on top of a "system"... that improves year to year. He is just running the numbers every year. And he needs to get lucky with a combination of skill players... that includes a premium athlete at QB. This is football checkers... not chess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mxt3999 View Post
    I don't think we need "the second coming of Brian Mitchell." That's a little bit much. We just need a serviceable QB. Gauthier and Broadway had success under Hud, so it's not impossible. Unfortunately we fell for the "He sucked in the SEC but he will dominate against the inferior SunBelt" trick. And we got burned
    The difference is, Gautier and Broadway were cultivated under different coaches. QB development is an issue here. Of course, an offensive line would help..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    I think most of us are thinking the same thing. Hud is content competing for a bowl. That doesn't require we beat any P5... or maybe even a top G5 program on our schedule. He is not going to veer from his basic philosophy. It worked in his first 4 years... so he is basically trying to reconstitute that capability. I do not see him ever moving into a change in approach that will slay a top G5 or anything but a floundering P5.

    To even get back to Hud's first 4 years... one that most have forgotten were not spectacular in any regard... we must recruit better QBs. I'm not stupid about all of the other essentials... but in watching Hud's system closely for 6 years... he requires hitting the jackpot with skill players. He isn't building on top of a "system"... that improves year to year. He is just running the numbers every year. And he needs to get lucky with a combination of skill players... that includes a premium athlete at QB. This is football checkers... not chess.
    Been saying this since the first Tech disaster. If our goal is 6-6, 7-5, we should give Hud a lifetime contract. He can deliver that.

    But.. there's a new sheriff in town.. and 6-6 ain't gunna cut it, partner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    I think most of us are thinking the same thing. Hud is content competing for a bowl. That doesn't require we beat any P5... or maybe even a top G5 program on our schedule. He is not going to veer from his basic philosophy. It worked in his first 4 years... so he is basically trying to reconstitute that capability. I do not see him ever moving into a change in approach that will slay a top G5 or anything but a floundering P5.

    To even get back to Hud's first 4 years... one that most have forgotten were not spectacular in any regard... we must recruit better QBs. I'm not stupid about all of the other essentials... but in watching Hud's system closely for 6 years... he requires hitting the jackpot with skill players. He isn't building on top of a "system"... that improves year to year. He is just running the numbers every year. And he needs to get lucky with a combination of skill players... that includes a premium athlete at QB. This is football checkers... not chess.
    All true, J1M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    I think most of us are thinking the same thing. Hud is content competing for a bowl. That doesn't require we beat any P5... or maybe even a top G5 program on our schedule. He is not going to veer from his basic philosophy. It worked in his first 4 years... so he is basically trying to reconstitute that capability. I do not see him ever moving into a change in approach that will slay a top G5 or anything but a floundering P5.

    If this is true, then we are back to the Bustle days. The only difference is that there's more bowls now to where 6 wins pretty much guarantees a bowl slot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    If this is true, then we are back to the Bustle days. The only difference is that there's more bowls now to where 6 wins pretty much guarantees a bowl slot.
    Exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    The games Jennings had protection he was good. Do we need a better QB, yes. But we won't see better QB play in this offense with these coaches.
    I didn't consider him good. Plenty of games with time to throw he threw jump balls or ones that receivers had to make great catches on to complete. Those were a lot more prevalent than hitting a receiver in stride to allow them to make a play after the catch.

    The other thought is you'll have a difficult time recruiting a great throwing quarterback when you run an offense like ours. You have to allow the quarterback and skill position player to showcase their ability to get them to come on campus, and we don't do that here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    I'm with you. I want a QB, if he can run then great. But I'd rather have a guy who could carve up a defense and make heady decisions than a guy who wows at a combine.
    Many of us do. But Hud isn't in our camp. He'll obviously "take" a QB with a great arm and mind... but since he knows he's not going to match minds with a cerebral QB... he's going to instinctually defer to a dual threat athlete QB.

    I believe when Hud sees video of a HS QB throwing long jump balls... and then running like a RB... he gets a head rush. He knows if he gets that kid to come to UL, 90% of his offense has been developed at that high school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULvictory View Post
    If this is true, then we are back to the Bustle days. The only difference is that there's more bowls now to where 6 wins pretty much guarantees a bowl slot.
    Bingo. But we pay more for it.

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    After thinking about this season, the way it progressed, and the play of the QB, it is clear to me that Davis should have gotten the starting job and taken as many snaps as possible.

    Very probable we would have ended up with 6 wins no matter who was QB. Only now, we are really screwed for next season at QB.


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