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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Went back an read the stats for Minnesota game, and we outrebouned them 44/39, we lost the rebound battle to Montana State 40/42.

    Maybe we will not be a great rebound team, still we were not terrible in those two games, and the rest we absolutely responded well.
    Yes, I know this. I didn't mention anything about Minnesota though. The two games I referenced were Montana State and Delaware State, neither are teams you would consider "large". However, I state this only as a concern and nothing more. We are a better rebounding team than I thought we'd be and I'm happy to see that. Hopefully we can continue to do so moving forward because this is the one area I'm really concerned about.

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    Rebounding is %95 effort and position. You don't have to be big, the smaller you are the better you need to be at position.


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    For those of us a little older, how much does Bryce Washington remind you of former UL star Marcus Stokes. Not on the offensive end, where I believe Bryce is better, but on the rebounding and defensive side. Neither are the tallest guys in the world, but both are/were rebounding machines.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    Rebounding is %95 effort and position. You don't have to be big, the smaller you are the better you need to be at position.
    You are correct. However, if the guys you are playing against give the same effort and know how to get position, that height and/or athleticism is a nice advantage to have..No?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginDave View Post
    For those of us a little older, how much does Bryce Washington remind you of former UL star Marcus Stokes. Not on the offensive end, where I believe Bryce is better, but on the rebounding and defensive side. Neither are the tallest guys in the world, but both are rebounding machines.
    Nice comparison. I always thought Bryce reminded me of Dennis Rodman with out the stupid attitude. He is smart around the goal and will position his body for the rebound. I think Justin Miller has very similar skills and will only get better.

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    BTW, did anybody notice Scott Farmer in attendance at the game? I thought that was interested and glad to see him there cheering the guys on.


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    Nice comparison. I always thought Bryce reminded me of Dennis Rodman with out the stupid attitude. .
    And the crossdressing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginDave View Post
    For those of us a little older, how much does Bryce Washington remind you of former UL star Marcus Stokes. Not on the offensive end, where I believe Bryce is better, but on the rebounding and defensive side. Neither are the tallest guys in the world, but both are rebounding machines.
    Nothing against Bryce, but I always thought of Marcus Stokes as a much more physical presence. Marcus Stokes was a man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunAmos View Post
    Nothing against Bryce, but I always thought of Marcus Stokes as a much more physical presence. Marcus Stokes was a man.
    Probably so, but they both do/did a great job of getting into position vs bigger players to make the rebound. Marcus was ridicuoulus at rebounding. I remember being in the stands watching him play and counting his boards. By halftime in most games he would be up to 6 or 7 and a large number of those would be offensive boards. I think his senior year he averaged over 12 boards a game. If I am not mistaken he might have been 2nd in the nation in rebounding one year, only 2nd to a guy less than an hour down the road named Shaq.

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    And the crossdressing...
    and his links to North Korea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    You are correct. However, if the guys you are playing against give the same effort and know how to get position, that height and/or athleticism is a nice advantage to have..No?
    Of course but most 6'10 guys can't move like a 6'6 guy...and will get called for over the back a lot more. I'm not saying it can't be a problem in certain games and situations but it can be overcome. Not all of your best rebounders are really tall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJack55 View Post
    And the crossdressing...
    True, Bryce is actually a very sharp dresser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    Of course but most 6'10 guys can't move like a 6'6 guy...and will get called for over the back a lot more. I'm not saying it can't be a problem in certain games and situations but it can be overcome. Not all of your best rebounders are really tall.
    Perfect example of your scenario is Brain Hamilton. He was 6'6 and weighing under 200lbs but he could out rebound much larger forwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginDave View Post
    For those of us a little older, how much does Bryce Washington remind you of former UL star Marcus Stokes. Not on the offensive end, where I believe Bryce is better, but on the rebounding and defensive side. Neither are the tallest guys in the world, but both are/were rebounding machines.
    If memory serves me well Stokes listed at 6'8".

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    I think you might be right as far as what he was listed, but I don't think Stokes was 6'8". I remember seeing him stand next to Kevin Brooks and others on the team and he appeared shorter. More like 6'6", but I could be wrong. I know one thing, he was a beast on the inside and that shot he hit vs. OU to beat them was a thing of beauty.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    Rebounding is %95 effort and position. You don't have to be big, the smaller you are the better you need to be at position.
    ---Well I have got to disagree although there is no doubt that the components you mentioned are so very important--Vertical jump and upper body strength, how tall, and arm length are the the 4 biggies when position is neutral and timing is the cherry on top!!!

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    ---Well I have got to disagree although there is no doubt that the components you mentioned are so very important--Vertical jump and upper body strength, how tall, and arm length are the the 4 biggies when position is neutral and timing is the cherry on top!!!
    That's probably why 2 of the leading rebounders in NBA history were relatively short, and one of those was both short and stocky. [Dennis Rodman and Charles Barkley].

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    ---Well I have got to disagree although there is no doubt that the components you mentioned are so very important--Vertical jump and upper body strength, how tall, and arm length are the the 4 biggies when position is neutral and timing is the cherry on top!!!
    That's why it's important to have position, position trumps all this. You either have position or you don't. Majority of the time if you have position you get the rebound or draw the foul. Upper body strength help you get position. Timing is important, majority of the really tall guys at our level aren't very athletic. You don't have to be 6'10 or above to be a great rebounder. Shawns timing,effort and position made him a great rebounder more than his height.

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    That's probably why 2 of the leading rebounders in NBA history were relatively short, and one of those was both short and stocky. [Dennis Rodman and Charles Barkley].

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    That's probably why 2 of the leading rebounders in NBA history were relatively short, and one of those was both short and stocky. [Dennis Rodman and Charles Barkley].
    ---I had an amazing conversation with Rodman over some cocktails one afternoon

    as we talked rebounding, it was quite a learning experience for me

    the amount of time that he had spent in game prep was phenomenal

    For each player, from what angle, direction of basketballs of each player off of missed shots and percentages, spin of ball and its chances of off board or rim direction, knowledge of opponents rebounders and their tendencies---my boy was decked out in some half ___ crossed dressed out fits with metal attached to various facial areas---Think he had returned recently from a North Korea visit with his favorite point guard!!! lol My party wasn't as interested in the conversation topic as I was and didn't appreciate his dress attire, but again one can learn a lot from the places you would never think to be associated with certain topics!!!


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