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    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    I'ld say less socially sanctioned lynchings is a wonderful thing as are women's rights.
    Women's rights? Really? Your ignorance is astonishing. The 19th Amendment, giving women the right to vote, was ratified On August 18, 1920. It was the crowning achievement of a movement that had been on-going for over 50 years. My mother is 100 years old, and has never in her adult life been denied the right to vote; and she is both female and First Nations. Lest you also forget that at least half of the greatest generation were female, I suggest you take a look at some real history books and learn about the WAAF, and that "Rosie, the Riveter" was not just a slogan invented by government, but a reflection of the reality that millions of women who had never worked outside the home took "men's" jobs in shipyards and foundries and aircraft plants, and that thousands of urban teen age girls moved in with farm families and worked as farm hands because farm boys from all over the country were busy dying so that you could denigrate their memory.

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    Sorry, the Greatest Generation did that.

    My dad was in the first integrated Ranger battalion in the US Army in 1945. My boss at my first job after college owed his life 50 times over to Red Tailed P-51 Mustangs flown by black airmen escorting his B-24 Liberator from Sicily through the Brunner Pass en route to bombing Germany. The largely Asian Hawaii National Guard fought alongside the Texas National Guard, composed largely of Scots and Hispanics, in Italy, and was the most decorated unit in WWII. The Navaho code talkers were instrumental in our victory in the Pacific.

    Was it perfect, not at all. But it was the beginning of an integrated military, which by the time I served in 1969-1972 was indeed colorblind.
    What generation was it that infected those same black airmen with syphilis as part of unethical human experimentation? When I was born black men could still sacrifice their lives in the military for their country but their children could not yet attend the same schools as their white peers. I don't condemn any generation but the vision is that we continue to transcend generational wrongs. We live in a better world thanks to all those on the continuum of this nation who fought and continue to fight to make it so. The 40's and 50's weren't wonderful for all Americans. What unites all races and all generations is perhaps their equality (even when not mutually acknowledged). Our equality is seen in our propensity for good and unfortunately in our propensity for evil. I belief our nation's purpose is noble even when our method and mechanism has not always been. We grow personally and it is foolish to think that a nation should not as well. Our main disagreement may be that I think we're continuing in the right direction and some of you think we're doomed. I wouldn't go back in the past believing it was a better time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    I'ld say less socially sanctioned lynchings is a wonderful thing as are women's rights.
    Whoaa cowboy. Women's rights were established well before bra burning. Real ___ women went out and earned those by way of rational protests. Nothing was given to them because they simply lacked a Y chromosome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    Women's rights? Really? Your ignorance is astonishing. The 19th Amendment, giving women the right to vote, was ratified On August 18, 1920. It was the crowning achievement of a movement that had been on-going for over 50 years. My mother is 100 years old, and has never in her adult life been denied the right to vote; and she is both female and First Nations. Lest you also forget that at least half of the greatest generation were female, I suggest you take a look at some real history books and learn about the WAAF, and that "Rosie, the Riveter" was not just a slogan invented by government, but a reflection of the reality that millions of women who had never worked outside the home took "men's" jobs in shipyards and foundries and aircraft plants, and that thousands of urban teen age girls moved in with farm families and worked as farm hands because farm boys from all over the country were busy dying so that you could denigrate their memory.
    I'm not talking about suffrage. The feminist movement of the 1960's and 1970's did much to improve women's rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    There is no cure for your delusion.

    Virtually everything that has been done in the name of 'progress' since 1964, has degraded the lives of Americans of all races. Our working poor have been legislated out of any possibility of improving their lot in life by such well meaning legislation as child labor laws, minimum wage laws, occupational health and safety laws, worker's compensation laws and other similar legislation. Our public assistance programs universally discourage responsible behavior by the poor, thus locking generations of people in a seemingly inescapable trap.

    The middle class, largely a product of the post WWI boom, hardened in the fire of the Depression, annealed by the blood of heroes in WWII, is now endangered by the entitlement society that taxes them disproportionately to support those who have been taught not to work.

    As another poster said previously, every measure of civilized society has declined immeasurably in my lifetime; largely as a result of misguided attempts by government to 'help' people.

    If you think this is "better", then you are hopelessly deluded.
    I agree with every point you make, but you left out one important point. Government doesn't do anything until it's master let's them do it. We all know who the government's master is...for those that don't...here is a hint. Name the only group of people who actually have it better in today's America.

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    Whoaa cowboy. Women's rights were established well before bra burning. Real ___ women went out and earned those by way of rational protests. Nothing was given to them because they simply lacked a Y chromosome.
    What's been given to them because they lack a Y chromosome is 79 cents to the dollar of their male counterpart. It's high time those bras get blazing again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    I agree with every point you make, but you left out one important point. Government doesn't do anything until it's master let's them do it. We all know who the government's master is...for those that don't...here is a hint. Name the only group of people who actually have it better in today's America.
    The answer would be the wealthiest 1%, I'd say we can all agree they have it best of all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    What's been given to them because they lack a Y chromosome is 79 cents to the dollar of their male counterpart. It's high time those bras get blazing again.
    No it's not. That Wage Gap bull____ is the reason this country is going down the tubes. First off...that isn't even the wage gap we should be worrying about. Executive wage gap is widening at an alarming rate. But...here you are worrying about poor women...when women are one of the few special interest groups who have it better than most in this country. And it's getting better by the day. Meanwhile...we are on the brink of Automation. Executive salaries already have their matches lit, all they have to do is lean over and light the fuse. But...please...think of those poor women...who make ungodly amounts of money more than they did a decade ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    The answer would be the wealthiest 1%, I'd say we can all agree they have it best of all.
    There you go. And they want you to go out there and cry for every cause under the sun...while they rob you blind. Classic bait and switch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    No it's not. That Wage Gap bull____ is the reason this country is going down the tubes. First off...that isn't even the wage gap we should be worrying about. Executive wage gap is widening at an alarming rate. But...here you are worrying about poor women...when women are one of the few special interest groups who have it better than most in this country. And it's getting better by the day. Meanwhile...we are on the brink of Automation. Executive salaries already have their matches lit, all they have to do is lean over and light the fuse. But...please...think of those poor women...who make ungodly amounts of money more than they did a decade ago.
    Women deserve equal pay for equal work. "It's better than it was 10 years ago" doesn't defend your case it proves mine. I'm with you though in that executive pay is out of control, this gap is unconscionable and unsustainable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    Women deserve equal pay for equal work. "It's better than it was 10 years ago" doesn't defend your case it proves mine. I'm with you though in that executive pay is out of control, this gap is unconscionable and unsustainable.
    Then why even focus any attention on a small subsection of that group of people, when everyone not an executive is about to be royally screwed, regardless of the sex, creed, religion, height, weight, etc.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    There you go. And they want you to go out there and cry for every cause under the sun...while they rob you blind. Classic bait and switch.
    They have profited most from societal injustice. I will always stand up for what is right. In the end what is just, honest and true will prevail. This will probably not occur in our lifetime or this earthly realm, but I believe that which is good will prevail, which gets back to why I mentioned it is not man's bidding that I serve. We were never promised peace on earth and we sure won't find it in this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    Then why even focus any attention on a small subsection of that group of people, when everyone not an executive is about to be royally screwed, regardless of the sex, creed, religion, height, weight, etc.?
    Because I don't think they possess the key to success. Greed tends to cure itself. They will be their own undoing. What they have wrought cannot be sustained.

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    We agree on almost everything. I have been called a hothead hundreds of times. My problem is when name calling is used against fellow Cajun Fans for having a different opinion. Sorry but ManAboutTime needs to understand that he isn't always right and calling people names only hurts to support his opinion. He reminds me of me when I was younger, full of himself and out to prove everyone wrong who disagrees with him. Age and experience helped me realize how I missed out on so much because I only wanted to put people in their place instead of listening to an opposing view.
    ---I have posted this on here so many times---When you get to name calling it becomes an AD HOMINEM argument that would be tossed by anybody knowledgeable of debate or discussion---it is a fallacious point and would be immediately tossed---unfortunately it is with high frequency used on here---i sure wish that for say one week the neg crew would state there point no matter how bad but just avoid the attacks on the persons!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    I'ld say less socially sanctioned lynchings is a wonderful thing as are women's rights.
    I love it when liberals find extreme situations to make a point

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    Well this thread sure took an unexpected turn.

    Few more posts, and the participants will be debating Louisiana's film subsidy program.


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    I guess our family was blessed. Of the 5 that went to WW2, 4 made it home. None of them never spoke of it and all 5 were proud to have served.

    T brought up the depression. That's a whole other topic.
    Well remember Zoom Zoom, many grew up during the depression with very little then joined the military to serve the country during WII. My father was a forward gunner on a Liberty Vessel, but never spoke about it until the last years of his life. I had four great uncles that served during WII, two brothers in Europe and two from the other side of the family in the Pacific. The two in Europe were awarded metals, one for D-Day, the other in Italy being wounded. None of them every talked to me about those events, I discovered their service looking through my grandmother's photo albums years later.

    Also, if you remained state side during the war most jobs were in defense manufacturing or agriculture in Louisiana. They were asked to ration everything from beef to rubber from tires and fuel. Life wasn't easy for families here during the war unless they were wealthy.

    My mothers family lost their little family dairy in Youngsville during the war because people couldn't afford to pay for milk at times and sometimes getting paid in goods and services just didn't pay their bills. So they turned to share cropping side by side with African-Americans in lower Lafayette Parish and later in St. Martin Parish. Imagine just how shocked they would be to learn just how racist they were to work side by side in the fields with their hands with local minorities.

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    What's been given to them because they lack a Y chromosome is 79 cents to the dollar of their male counterpart. It's high time those bras get blazing again.
    To quote the hilarious Bill Burr, I make more per hour than "her" bc in the unlikely event we're on the next Titanic, she'll get the life raft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penrod View Post
    What's been given to them because they lack a Y chromosome is 79 cents to the dollar of their male counterpart. It's high time those bras get blazing again.
    1. Women between 30 and 39 make more for the same employment as men.
    2. Women choose to work in many jobs that are lower paying.
    3. As part of 2, women do not apply for jobs where there is high risk for injury or death, where pay for injury or death risk is higher.
    4. Men are more likely to work overtime in order to advance faster, so they do.
    5. Women surveyed way higher than men that they value family life and being home far greater than succeeding in their careers.

    These are facts from recent university studies in the U.S. and the U.K.. The wage gap is a myth. The 79 cent bogus argument doesn't take numerous factors, in addition to those above, into account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggie85 View Post
    To quote the hilarious Bill Burr, I make more per hour than "her" bc in the unlikely event we're on the next Titanic, she'll get the life raft.
    Wrong crowd Dugg.. He'll get offended by that.

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