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    Quote Originally Posted by Stabil123 View Post
    Interesting , Credible sources outside the University
    I stand by that.

    But if you prefer, a public statement by our AD was made that [paraphrasing] "We are comfortable in the Sun Belt". Another statement from him [again a paraphrase] "We are not ready to change conferences at this time."

    Both can be easily interpreted as "We have no interest in changing conferences."

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunDreDog View Post
    So, NO ONE outside of Acadiana knows of this acronym being used? I live in BR and don't know of them and their using "LARC".

    I think LARC would work! Think about it from a NATIONAL perspective, not local.
    No thanks.

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    It's been my experience to take an anonymous source with a grain of salt...More importantly its been well stated on this venue, the critical criteria for getting into a better conference is:
    Size of TV market
    Size of Budget
    I'm not sure what any AD can do about those two issues and others


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stabil123 View Post
    It's been my experience to take an anonymous source with a grain of salt...More importantly its been well stated on this venue, the critical criteria for getting into a better conference is:
    Size of TV market
    Size of Budget
    I'm not sure what any AD can do about those two issues and others
    SF stated in the beginning that he wanted to position Louisiana for a better conference. Now, SF states we are happy in the SBC. As Athletic director, you never stop wanting to improve. This needs to be stated publicly for fans to embrace him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stabil123 View Post
    It's been my experience to take an anonymous source with a grain of salt...More importantly its been well stated on this venue, the critical criteria for getting into a better conference is:
    Size of TV market
    Size of Budget
    I'm not sure what any AD can do about those two issues and others
    TV market? Louisiana Tech? Western Kentucky?? THE AD can do nothing about the size of the budget? At most Athletic Departments the AD is the big closer when it comes to fundraising.....I have been told by others in this business and those connected to other Universities we have not even tried to move.....showed no interest in moving. We are burying ourselves..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRed View Post

    I'm sticking with UL.
    Me too. We have been fighting for this since the 80's... We have gained some traction... It's fun to p-off my a&m@br friends... I do believe it is a long term branding issue that will come along with success, growth and a new conference... We have to STICK with something... Our opponents in-state use the evolution from SLI to USL to ULL to our brand of UL as a source of derision.

    We have set on the UL path.. Stick to the fight.. Don't give up

    Short anecdote... By nephew is an outstanding baseball player playing at a JUCO right now... From BR and his family are avid a&m@br fans.... He has interest from UNO and some other state teams but said he has not heard from "UL"... the latter has been a monumental change for him and his dad... Coming out of High School Tony offered a preferred walk-on position... His ego was to large to accept.. He thought he would get a similar walk-on from a&m@br.... The point here is that his exposure here when on his visit, my pushing UL... has worked in his family...

    One-b-one we can win.... but we have to stay the course... Jay started this way back when he said he would forever refer to us as "Louisiana" during the broadcasts.. He has not waivered. Neither should we

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    Quote Originally Posted by IHateLaState View Post
    Me too. We have been fighting for this since the 80's... We have gained some traction... It's fun to p-off my a&m@br friends... I do believe it is a long term branding issue that will come along with success, growth and a new conference... We have to STICK with something... Our opponents in-state use the evolution from SLI to USL to ULL to our brand of UL as a source of derision.

    We have set on the UL path.. Stick to the fight.. Don't give up

    Short anecdote... By nephew is an outstanding baseball player playing at a JUCO right now... From BR and his family are avid a&m@br fans.... He has interest from UNO and some other state teams but said he has not heard from "UL"... the latter has been a monumental change for him and his dad... Coming out of High School Tony offered a preferred walk-on position... His ego was to large to accept.. He thought he would get a similar walk-on from a&m@br.... The point here is that his exposure here when on his visit, my pushing UL... has worked in his family...

    One-b-one we can win.... but we have to stay the course... Jay started this way back when he said he would forever refer to us as "Louisiana" during the broadcasts.. He has not waivered. Neither should we

    Notice when we play our O
    OC games against the P-5s that they tend to put Louisiana on the tickets and scoreboards---Who would you rather your fans think you are playing Louisiana-??? or Louisiana??? again we get LSU pushing us and the others in state pulling us down

    -Keep fighting---If we get into a different conference I really think it would be over or the tide to have changed demonstratively!!!


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    ( no interested in trying to move) Just curious, do you think that decision was made by the AD?


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    Default Re: Alden Report Released by University of Louisiana Athletics

    I think the person who made that decision was heavily influenced by the person he hired to evaluate such matters; and that would be the AD.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise View Post
    Which is Oregon
    agreed. there are other lsu's as well.....UO-norman then.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post

    Notice when we play our O
    OC games against the P-5s that they tend to put Louisiana on the tickets and scoreboards---Who would you rather your fans think you are playing Louisiana-??? or Louisiana??? again we get LSU pushing us and the others in state pulling us down

    -Keep fighting---If we get into a different conference I really think it would be over or the tide to have changed demonstratively!!!

    Louisiana is not the issue. We are all in agreement with that. It is the acronym we are also referred by. Outside of Lafayette, everyone including media, use ULL or UL-L that our marketing dept told the conference and media to use. LARC is apparently only for trailers on televised games. UL is illegal and will always be fought by ULM, La Tech and LSU. So, do we use just an L, LU, LA, or something else? I love UL, but it will never gain statewide or national traction. How long do we play this insane name game? Louisiana is locked in. What is our acronym?

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    Default Re: Alden Report Released by University of Louisiana Athletics

    A good abbreviation is as good as an acronym.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJack55 View Post
    I couldn't find anything more recent, the following breakdown of fee charges is updated for Spring 2013 fee schedule as of 12.02.12:.. but I do not see any fees regarding getting into athletic events for free except for the "Auxiliary Operations Fee" and if that is it then I would assume Martin Hall and I would love see the breakdown of how much of that $100 goes towards athletics. (Probably higher in 2016 but still seems low)

    *Board Assessed Fees:

    Tuition/General Registration
    -Up to $ 2,234.28 per semester
    Building Use fee
    -$10.00 per semester
    Building Use Fee-New
    -Up to $48.00 per semester
    Academic Enhancement
    -$25.00 per semester
    Academic Excellence
    -$10.00 per credit hour; $30.00 minimum, $120.00 maximum
    Operational Fee
    -up to $61.20 per semester

    University Assessed Fees:

    Records and Evaluation Fee ($10.00 per semester)
    -Provides funding for maintenance of student academic records; provides students with free copies of University transcripts.
    Auxiliary Operations Fee ($100.00 assessed at 4 or more credit hours)
    -Provides ancillary student support for Auxiliary services which include the Student Union, transit system, operations, recreational sports/activities, the health clinic, and other student related services.

    Energy Fee (up to $60.00 per semester)
    -Provides funding to offset energy costs of the University
    Student Self-Assessed Fees
    Masterplan Advancement Program ($7.50 per credit hour, maximum of 15 credits)
    -Provides funding for campus improvements with input from students
    Student Union (up to $23.00 per semester)
    -Provide funding for construction and maintenance of existing UL Lafayette Student Union
    Student Union ($20.00 per semester for students assessed at 6 or more credit hours.
    -Provides funding for construction and maintenance of a new first-class Student Center
    Student Union ($55.00 per semester for students at 6 or more credit hours
    -Provides funding for construction and maintenance of a new first-class Student Center
    Student Technology Fee ($5.00 per credit hour)
    -Provides funding to enhance student-accessible technology on campus
    ID Photo ($10.00 per semester)
    -Provide for ID photographs and identification cards
    La Louisiane-Alumni ($2.50 per semester)
    -Provides funding for La Louisiane, the alumni magazine
    Debate ($1.00 per semester)
    -Provide funding for travel expenses for the University Debate Team
    Entertainment ($5.50 per semester)
    -Provide funding for University Program Council for events like Lagniappe Week, Ragin Roar, and Homecoming. UPC sponsored events are free to students
    Day Care ($2.25 per semester)
    -Provides for top quality child care at affordable prices for children of full time students.
    Intramurals ($2.00 per semester)
    -Provides for intramural sports for UL Lafayette students
    Band Association (up to $5.00 per semester)
    -Provides funding for the Pride of Acadiana March Band
    Student Loan (.50 per semester)
    -Provides for emergency loan assistance through the short-term loan program.
    Lyceum (up to $1.00 per semester)
    -Provides for academic speakers at the University
    Book (.10 per semester)
    L 'Acadian ($12.00 per Fall semester for students with 12 or more credit hours)
    -Provides a copy of the L 'Acadian Yearbook for each full-time student
    KRVS (.50 per semester)
    -Provides funding for KRVS, the campus radio station
    SGA ($7.50 per semester for 6 or more credit hours)
    -Provides funding for the Student Government Association
    Insurance ($22.00 per semester for students assessed at 7 or more undergraduate credit hours or 6 or more graduate credit hours)
    -Provides students with health care coverage
    Vermilion ($2.00 per semester)
    -Provides funding for the student published newspaper
    SGA Scholarship (.75 per semester)
    -Provides funding for SGA-awarded scholarships
    International Student Council (.35 per semester)
    Club Sports ($3.15 per semester)
    -Provide funding for club sports such as Judo, Bowling, Soccer, Rugby, Tae Kwan Do, Skeet Shooting, and Water Skiing.
    Arts Fee (up to $7.00 per semester)
    -Provides funding for the UL Lafayette Symphony Orchestra and UL Lafayette
    Performing Arts
    Cheerleaders (up to $4.00 per semester)
    -Provides funding for UL Lafayette cheerleaders
    University Police ($1.00 per semester) Provides funding for the University Police Department for scholarships, student officers, Code Blue emergency systems, crime prevention programs, and equipment for officers.
    Art Museum (up to $5.00 per semester)
    -Provides funding for the University Art Museum
    Parking and Transit (up to $25.00 per semester for students assessed at 6 or more credit hours)
    -Provides funding to maintain transit facilities (buses), improve parking facilities, and provide free parking at Cajun Field and Zone 40.
    Recreational-.Facility/Equipment ($20.00 per semester for students assessed at 6 or more
    Credit hours)
    Student Health Service ($20.00 per semester for 6 or more credit hours)
    -Provides health care services to student free of charge
    Student Health Service Support ($5.00 per semester for students assessed at 6 or more credit hours
    -Provides support services for Student Health Services
    Auxiliary Improvement
    -$15.00 per semester for students assessed at 6 or more credit hours
    Initial Enrollment Fee ($7.50 first time freshmen only)
    -Provides enrollment services to first-time stude
    Can you be more specific?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonCajun View Post
    Louisiana is not the issue. We are all in agreement with that. It is the acronym we are also referred by. Outside of Lafayette, everyone including media, use ULL or UL-L that our marketing dept told the conference and media to use. LARC is apparently only for trailers on televised games. UL is illegal and will always be fought by ULM, La Tech and LSU. So, do we use just an L, LU, LA, or something else? I love UL, but it will never gain statewide or national traction. How long do we play this insane name game? Louisiana is locked in. What is our acronym?
    LA

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonCajun View Post
    Louisiana is not the issue. We are all in agreement with that. It is the acronym we are also referred by. Outside of Lafayette, everyone including media, use ULL or UL-L that our marketing dept told the conference and media to use. LARC is apparently only for trailers on televised games. UL is illegal and will always be fought by ULM, La Tech and LSU. So, do we use just an L, LU, LA, or something else? I love UL, but it will never gain statewide or national traction. How long do we play this insane name game? Louisiana is locked in. What is our acronym?
    ---I didn't like it initially but starting to favor ULA...

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    Finally had the opportunity to thumb through this thing..

    The specific personnel evaluations are not included in this version of the report, so take that into consideration.

    I'd personally like to thank Mike Alden and his staff for spending time reading RP and it's many fine posters for valuable input in their report. This is quite literally a condensed "thread" of everything we've discussed, complained and warned about for 10 years here, on this forum. It's pretty unbelievable actually.

    But seriously, the "don't put this plan on the shelf" comment is so multi-layered in meaning. First and foremost, we have to go out and find an Athletic Director that can handle this kind of undertaking. We are severely, SEVERELY lacking at this position and have been for a really long time. So implement the correct leadership and then, and only then, can we proceed with our future endeavors.

    For anyone saying that we are financially disadvantaged with our current economic state: Let me remind you of Mr. Warren Buffet's strategy of investing -- "When people are buying, be fearful. When people are fearful, be buying." The time is now. Excuses and difficulties be damned.

    Have we been under staffed? Sure we have. But how LONG have we been understaffed? I can absolutely hold our administration accountable for not addressing a major issue that has plagued our growth in athletics for this amount of time! If you need people, FIGURE IT OUT. It's been said many times here; put the football stadium suites (that you can't sell anyway) on the back-burner for now, endow athletic scholarships; then use the money that's currently being allocated for that to staff a full, functioning athletic department.

    I was a little disappointed in the 'LARC' suggestion. I think we can do better than that.

    It's now all on the Prez.


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    ULA is a better acronym than ULL and LARC IMO.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    ULA is a better acronym than ULL and LARC IMO.
    Go ULA




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    Guys....the name thing IS important.....there is one Hell of a lot more than that in this report.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by basinbear View Post
    Guys....the name thing IS important.....there is one Hell of a lot more than that in this report.....
    ---One thing I didn't like too much (now it could just be the New Orleans in me) but every game is Mardi Gras---Is he working for the Greenies also? Seems like a better fit!!!

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