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    It was clear after his Tuesday press luncheon that UL coach Mark Hudspeth, deep down, doesn't really want any part of a two-quarterback system over the long haul.



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    I think they should consider a 2 QB system. IMO Elijah will be more effective if we have a QB that is a serious threat to run and they have to respect the read option. Fenroy was great because of Desormeaux's ability to run. Using Nixon on a regular basis would be good and would make defenses prepare for two offensive game plans.

    If Jordan Davis had a better grasp of the O you would have Haack and Nixon all in one and that would be the ideal situation.


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    I don't like 2 quarterback systems and I do not have a significant reason why. Both have pros and cons. I lean towards "old school" styles. Passing quarterbacks have running backs and wide receivers.

    I think quarterbacks that are dual threat and can run and pass effectively are the exception, not the norm. I have always been of the opinion that quarterbacks should focus on one thing, and do it well. That is why I was pulling for Haack at the beginning of the season.

    Don't get me wrong, the Cajuns need to make a change to get a spark, but if it wasn't for fumbles, penalties and backwards runs, Haack would have played the entire game. He was moving the offense on every drive. The defense played better in the second half, which allowed the offense more time to execute.


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    I think if both can do what they did last Saturday, there's no reason not too. We didn't score many points with Haack in but that was circumstantial. He moved the ball and I expect he will lead many a scoring drive this season.


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    We are also lucky as it seems Nixon has no problem stepping in and being ready to play. So if we will alternate guys as the game dictates, he seems to be able to do that and play at a high level immediately.


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    You give Haack the reigns. Let the flow of the game play out. Occasionally bring in Nixon to soften up the d-line. Before you know it, Nixon passing lanes will open up due to the defense keying on the run, Haack's running lanes will open up due to the defense keying on the pass, and Eli's complete game will be wide open because now there are multiple people to gameplan for, not just stacking 9 in the box to smother him like Kentucky was doing early on.

    This is a good problem and I like it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by scotto_25 View Post
    You give Haack the reigns. Let the flow of the game play out. Occasionally bring in Nixon to soften up the d-line. Before you know it, Nixon passing lanes will open up due to the defense keying on the run, Haack's running lanes will open up due to the defense keying on the pass, and Eli's complete game will be wide open because now there are multiple people to gameplan for, not just stacking 9 in the box to smother him like Kentucky was doing early on.

    This is a good problem and I like it.
    Pretty much.

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    Well said Scott


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    I'm for giving Haack the start as was planned by the staff. He didn't lose his start from his Kentucky performance. And it would be very odd based on that game to change gears at this point. That said, I don't have an issue with thinking more about situations to bring Nixon in. "That" is my 2 QB system. Not an alternating series or even a field position decision necessarily. I do still lean toward getting every skill player directly involved in the short, middle and deep game. I believe Haack can do that. There isn't any more SEC defenses left on the schedule. It always bothers me when I read people making assessments of one of our player's performance, disregarding the greatness or patheticness of the opponent that week. The opponent has a lot to do with individual stats.

    We cannot stop implementing man to man press coverage (intelligently) and we still need to attack with every skill player, short/middle/deep. It was tough to debut at Kentucky in front of 62k... but it stands the chance of lifting this program up and breaking the will of every opponent left on the schedule.


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    Quote Originally Posted by scotto_25 View Post
    You give Haack the reigns. Let the flow of the game play out. Occasionally bring in Nixon to soften up the d-line. Before you know it, Nixon passing lanes will open up due to the defense keying on the run, Haack's running lanes will open up due to the defense keying on the pass, and Eli's complete game will be wide open because now there are multiple people to gameplan for, not just stacking 9 in the box to smother him like Kentucky was doing early on.

    This is a good problem and I like it.
    Very true.

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    Its too soon to tell but we may just have Jake D. and Bryan M. on the same team right now. If so, you gotta play em both.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alum81 View Post
    Its too soon to tell but we may just have Jake D. and Bryan M. on the same team right now. If so, you gotta play em both.
    easy now..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunjeb View Post
    I don't like 2 quarterback systems and I do not have a significant reason why. Both have pros and cons. I lean towards "old school" styles. Passing quarterbacks have running backs and wide receivers.

    I think quarterbacks that are dual threat and can run and pass effectively are the exception, not the norm. I have always been of the opinion that quarterbacks should focus on one thing, and do it well. That is why I was pulling for Haack at the beginning of the season.

    Don't get me wrong, the Cajuns need to make a change to get a spark, but if it wasn't for fumbles, penalties and backwards runs, Haack would have played the entire game. He was moving the offense on every drive. The defense played better in the second half, which allowed the offense more time to execute.
    This. All of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotto_25 View Post
    You give Haack the reigns. Let the flow of the game play out. Occasionally bring in Nixon to soften up the d-line. Before you know it, Nixon passing lanes will open up due to the defense keying on the run, Haack's running lanes will open up due to the defense keying on the pass, and Eli's complete game will be wide open because now there are multiple people to gameplan for, not just stacking 9 in the box to smother him like Kentucky was doing early on.

    This is a good problem and I like it.
    IMO if you bring in Nixon for 1 or 2 drives a game or "occasionally" that's a 2 QB system. If Nixon is a back up and comes in only because BH is hurt or can't go for some reason then that's not. For example how many times did you see TBs back up, only when he couldn't go, that's a one QB system.

    IMO I like the idea of JN getting 2-3 series a game. 2 good QBs with different skill sets can be very effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bicky Rustle View Post
    IMO if you bring in Nixon for 1 or 2 drives a game or "occasionally" that's a 2 QB system. If Nixon is a back up and comes in only because BH is hurt or can't go for some reason then that's not. For example how many times did you see TBs back up, only when he couldn't go, that's a one QB system.

    IMO I like the idea of JN getting 2-3 series a game. 2 good QBs with different skill sets can be very effective.

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    Which QB has the strongest arm with the most zip??? Which is faster??? Which has the best completion percentage??? Which QB gives the dual threat to help the running game and can pass very well (100%)??? I love the speed option, or giving to the RB off the fake, or having a third option of a load coming with the QB---think I have seen passing after this also---I love the read option, I love the regular option, and I love when Nixon rolls out of the pocket to pass or run

    We talked about it before the game and felt that the backup should be Haack since he is the desperation guy for passes!!! So last week N'Western played horribly on defense against the run, so who would be the better choice to start against them??? Here we go!!!


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    Haack sets the tone, Nixon change of pace.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    Which QB has the strongest arm with the most zip??? Which is faster??? Which has the best completion percentage??? Which QB gives the dual threat to help the running game and can pass very well (100%)??? I love the speed option, or giving to the RB off the fake, or having a third option of a load coming with the QB---think I have seen passing after this also---I love the read option, I love the regular option, and I love when Nixon rolls out of the pocket to pass or run

    We talked about it before the game and felt that the backup should be Haack since he is the desperation guy for passes!!! So last week N'Western played horribly on defense against the run, so who would be the better choice to start against them??? Here we go!!!

    I can tell you this, if we don't score a TD in 1 of our first 2 drives, I think we'll be seeing Nixon early.

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    Don't care, just win.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunjeb View Post
    I don't like 2 quarterback systems and I do not have a significant reason why. Both have pros and cons. I lean towards "old school" styles. Passing quarterbacks have running backs and wide receivers.

    I think quarterbacks that are dual threat and can run and pass effectively are the exception, not the norm. I have always been of the opinion that quarterbacks should focus on one thing, and do it well. That is why I was pulling for Haack at the beginning of the season.

    Don't get me wrong, the Cajuns need to make a change to get a spark, but if it wasn't for fumbles, penalties and backwards runs, Haack would have played the entire game. He was moving the offense on every drive. The defense played better in the second half, which allowed the offense more time to execute.
    I will disagree with your last paragraph. The offense's ability to execute was not helped, at all, in the second half by the defense. With all of the plays we gave up on defense in the first half, we were still tied or ahead of UK in time of possession at halftime as our offense did move the ball in the first half. They just couldn't finish it off or we had horrible penalties or turnovers that killed drives.

    Our defense played better in the second half because the coaches did a great job of making adjustments and the players just settled down. The same can be said for the offense but you can't underestimate the effect that Nixon had on finishing drives and executing the offense which is why you saw him for most of the second half.

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