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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    We are in a glorified FCS league.
    dude, everyone knows that. i havent seen one person here say we want to be in the sunbelt.

    in terms of a sunbelt viewpoint, it is a good add for the conf. benson is doing his job.

    nothing wrong with CC being in the sunbelt. its only wrong that we are still here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFan83 View Post
    I'm baffled by the amount of people who are ok with this. Or maybe everyone is ok with this in the context of the situation? Take a step back and think about the teams that we will be watching at Cajun Field. I'm a football guy so I'm speaking only about my thoughts when it comes to conference association but it's getting really hard to get excited about our schedule. I'll always be RCAF and a season ticket holder because like most of you there's nothing that will stop my love for UL but geez.. I'm digging deep to find the passion.
    again, no one here is excited about our home schedule. everyone knows its terrible. everyone is saying that in terms of the sun belt, it isnt a bad school to add.

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    again, no one here is excited about our home schedule. everyone knows its terrible. everyone is saying that in terms of the sun belt, it isnt a bad school to add.
    Yea I hear you. I think we are all due for some positive news. A win over UK this weekend would do the trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFan83 View Post
    Yea I hear you. I think we are all due for some positive news. A win over UK this weekend would do the trick.
    cheers to that

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    Quote Originally Posted by dms4720 View Post
    again, no one here is excited about our home schedule. everyone knows its terrible. everyone is saying that in terms of the sun belt, it isnt a bad school to add.
    The reality of this situation is, WE ARE IN THE SUN BELT. So this is terrible for us. You are who you associate with.

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    Let's quit getting our ___es kicker by all these supposedly horrible teams. We gave wku their first fbs win, we got destroyed by south Al with a championship on the line, we got destroyed by app state with a championship on the line at home. We are 1 incredible pass play away from giving Georgia state their first fbs win at home. You are what your record says you are. You are associated by the people you beat and the people you get your ___ kicked by. Everyone gets pssd off when people from other conferences say they want nothing to do with us but yet some do the same here. Let's make sure we aren't CCU's first FBS win before we go running our mouths


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    Coastal will be a full member next year, with the first being a transition year in football. The next season they will play SBC football games. Building a stadium addition in time or not, doesn't help your football brand period. They are not App. State or Georgia Southern. The decision by Benson to push this through pretty much erodes any improvement in your football brand for a few years, after Georgia Southern and App. State have supposedly helped. SBC had nothing to gain in football, taking them as a full member.
    No doubt it does nothing to increase the football brand, but does it not help CC accelerate their football program build by a quicker introduction to the FBS? I like their addition in the Olympic sports. Their baseball exploits have created a pretty decent overall brand addition to the SBC. I like anything in the Carolinas. And it isn't like we need another Georgia Southern coming in and taking an 8-0 football title that we haven't even seen yet. In all reality, what exactly could the SBC do to improve the football brand at this point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    Let's quit getting our ___es kicker by all these supposedly horrible teams. We gave wku their first fbs win, we got destroyed by south Al with a championship on the line, we got destroyed by app state with a championship on the line at home. We are 1 incredible pass play away from giving Georgia state their first fbs win at home. You are what your record says you are. You are associated by the people you beat and the people you get your ___ kicked by. Everyone gets pssd off when people from other conferences say they want nothing to do with us but yet some do the same here. Let's make sure we aren't CCU's first FBS win before we go running our mouths
    Just win!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    The smartest move would have been to vote Idaho out and stand pat. Adding to get a championship game is stupid.
    We should have added NMSU as a full time member. Then, drop Idaho and drop UTA and Little Rock, going to a 10 team all sports conference. Like the Big 12, play a 9 game conference schedule. No need for a championship game. We are not going to be playing for the national championship. The SBC is a haven for FBS wannabees and further cemented itself as the worst conference in football. Who is next, McNeese State and Sam Houston State to help with travel costs? Can't wait for Benson to schedule UL to play at CCU before 9,400 fans (if they pack their stadium). That will help our recruiting. I'm sure UL was part of a unanimous vote to add CCU, like we were to increase the exit fee to $2M.

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    FACT: No one the SBC added was going to "improve" football.

    FACT: The only viable options were FCS teams.

    FACT: We are in a league with Idaho and NMSU. I would wager that CCU will be better than either of them in short order.

    FACT: Of the last two FCS teams we added, one beat us and the other won the league championship.

    FACT: Those two programs both have higher profile wins over FBS schools in the last 10 years than we do in the history of our program.

    FACT: We still have not won the SBC outright.

    FACT: If we want to improve our perception, we need to beat out of conference opponents from leagues that are perceived to be better.

    FACT: There is no conference for us to move to right now.

    FACT: CCU was the best of any viable candidate to add. (Kicking out Idaho may have been the better option).


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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    Let's quit getting our ___es kicker by all these supposedly horrible teams. We gave wku their first fbs win, we got destroyed by south Al with a championship on the line, we got destroyed by app state with a championship on the line at home. We are 1 incredible pass play away from giving Georgia state their first fbs win at home. You are what your record says you are. You are associated by the people you beat and the people you get your ___ kicked by. Everyone gets pssd off when people from other conferences say they want nothing to do with us but yet some do the same here. Let's make sure we aren't CCU's first FBS win before we go running our mouths
    Dang right. I love Hud... but our losses and close calls do not scream "dominant". I'm extremely glad (despite folks on here that constantly defended Hud and our defense) that we have some high caliber defensive coaches... that aren't going to put up with a cop out defensive scheme. We let way too many supposedly lesser football teams rack up yardage and scores on us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dms4720 View Post
    dude, everyone knows that. i havent seen one person here say we want to be in the sunbelt.

    in terms of a sunbelt viewpoint, it is a good add for the conf. benson is doing his job.

    nothing wrong with CC being in the sunbelt. its only wrong that we are still here.
    C. Carolina fits The Belt, The Belt doesn't fit Louisiana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    Dang right. I love Hud... but our losses and close calls do not scream "dominant". I'm extremely glad (despite folks on here that constantly defended Hud and our defense) that we have some high caliber defensive coaches... that aren't going to put up with a cop out defensive scheme. We let way too many supposedly lesser football teams rack up yardage and scores on us.

    -Nobody on this board I think has pushed for a new conference longer than I, nor feared about others getting in/got in other conferences

    and although I want out now there are some points to look at---in the top 80 say teams in the country CUSA has 3 or 4 as does the Belt---of the over 100 rankings both have about 6---pretty damn close but some things you use to defend in recruiting---just pointing it out from a guy that has done this---yes I want out, as it makes the job easier, but sell what you have and we have a bunch to sell---School , Lafayette, enrollment, population, culture, facilities, coaches, endowment, transportation ease, campus, food, fun, economy!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    Let's quit getting our ___es kicker by all these supposedly horrible teams. We gave wku their first fbs win, we got destroyed by south Al with a championship on the line, we got destroyed by app state with a championship on the line at home. We are 1 incredible pass play away from giving Georgia state their first fbs win at home. You are what your record says you are. You are associated by the people you beat and the people you get your ___ kicked by. Everyone gets pssd off when people from other conferences say they want nothing to do with us but yet some do the same here. Let's make sure we aren't CCU's first FBS win before we go running our mouths
    Agreed.

    While we have won some nice OOC games (Nevada, San Diego, ECU), those bad games you mentioned are just that. Bad...

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    All I know is Coastsl helps baseball.. One of two sports we have a legitimate shot at a National Championship.

    What ppl should be ____ed about is why isn't Idaho kicked out and why is NMSU not a full member!

    To that, then try and add Missouri St in all sports.

    Football:
    West:
    NMSU
    Tx St
    Missouri St
    Ark St
    Louisiana
    Monroe

    East:
    South Al
    Troy
    GaSouth
    GaSt
    App
    Coastal

    We solve traveling partners. Maybe one table the other sports. Not sure how that works. Sure someone could find negs but just a thought.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ulXrunner View Post
    All I know is Coastsl helps baseball.. One of two sports we have a legitimate shot at a National Championship.

    What ppl should be ____ed about is why isn't Idaho kicked out and why is NMSU not a full member!

    To that, then try and add Missouri St in all sports.

    Football:
    West:
    NMSU
    Tx St
    Missouri St
    Ark St
    Louisiana
    Monroe

    East:
    South Al
    Troy
    GaSouth
    GaSt
    App
    Coastal

    We solve traveling partners. Maybe one table the other sports. Not sure how that works. Sure someone could find negs but just a thought.
    Idaho and nmsu will be evaluated in 2017 I think, I would imagine doing anything before that agreed date would cost the conference a penalty.

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    No doubt it does nothing to increase the football brand, but does it not help CC accelerate their football program build by a quicker introduction to the FBS? I like their addition in the Olympic sports. Their baseball exploits have created a pretty decent overall brand addition to the SBC. I like anything in the Carolinas. And it isn't like we need another Georgia Southern coming in and taking an 8-0 football title that we haven't even seen yet. In all reality, what exactly could the SBC do to improve the football brand at this point?
    1) Add Coastal Carolina for Olympic Sports only for now. It addresses the travel coast concerns for App. State across the board. Allow them to build the facilities and when they are ready add football if they are indeed the best option after 2017.2) Continue to improve your football programs from within the SBC, Georgia State still hasn't won a game against an FBS opponent yet. A conference championship game adds nothing to the SBC without a sponsor and a television agreement with ESPN or FOX Sports to televise the game. It will only add more expenses to the conference otherwise. 3) 2017 is D-day for the Sun Belt Conference Television package, Benson will find out exactly how much the SBC brand is valued. ESPN is cutting back on expenses because of Disney, the network is going to look at all of their deals with bowl games, especially the lower tier bowls. Fox Sports could be an option at that point. 4) Beyond 2017, they may have to make a decision if Idaho decides to drop football to FCS more then likely we could see another SLC program like Sam Houston or McNeese State added to the SBC.

    There are a lot of unknowns right now in NCAA sports, there was no rush to grab Coastal Carolina at this time as a full member. Where are they going to go? Their baseball and basketball are solid, but do we want to be another Missouri Valley?

    Yea I know, what are we supposed to do? What are we supposed to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    Let's quit getting our ___es kicker by all these supposedly horrible teams. We gave wku their first fbs win, we got destroyed by south Al with a championship on the line, we got destroyed by app state with a championship on the line at home. We are 1 incredible pass play away from giving Georgia state their first fbs win at home. You are what your record says you are. You are associated by the people you beat and the people you get your ___ kicked by. Everyone gets pssd off when people from other conferences say they want nothing to do with us but yet some do the same here. Let's make sure we aren't CCU's first FBS win before we go running our mouths
    +1

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    FACT: We are in a league with Idaho and NMSU. I would wager that CCU will be better than either of them in short order.

    FACT: Of the last two FCS teams we added, one beat us and the other won the league championship.

    FACT: Those two programs both have higher profile wins over FBS schools in the last 10 years than we do in the history of our program.

    FACT: We still have not won the SBC outright.

    FACT: If we want to improve our perception, we need to beat out of conference opponents from leagues that are perceived to be better.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    Let's quit getting our ___es kicker by all these supposedly horrible teams. We gave wku their first fbs win, we got destroyed by south Al with a championship on the line, we got destroyed by app state with a championship on the line at home. We are 1 incredible pass play away from giving Georgia state their first fbs win at home. You are what your record says you are. You are associated by the people you beat and the people you get your ___ kicked by. Everyone gets pssd off when people from other conferences say they want nothing to do with us but yet some do the same here. Let's make sure we aren't CCU's first FBS win before we go running our mouths
    Who is a horrible team the Hudspeth lost to? App State or Louisiana Tech? Look, I get he needs to win games like that to change perception of the program. But all the guy has done is win four straight bowl games and out together four consecutive seasons that have never been seen in the history of this program.

    Fans on this board want Hud and his staff to go out and recruit against programs above the SBC just because we built an APC? Yet the staff is going to have go out and sell athletes on cuts in the program like travel cost, another bus trip to Jonesboro? Coach Marlin will have to endure the same cuts for basketball, but both staff's are supposed to recruit above the SBC? It amazes me that so many people can't see it, but demand it. But at the same time, won't demand the president of this university take some money out of his back pocket to fully fund athletics, while he is planning on price gauging his RCAF supporters for a SBC product. We are eventually going to get what your conference yields in recruiting. Everyone keeps talking about just keep winning and things will take care of itself. Perhaps, but what I don't see a bunch of four start athletes lining up to sign with Ragin' Cajuns Football to play in the SBC and bus trips while your competitors are flying. We better enjoy Hudspeth while we have him period.

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