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    I was at a company function in Baltimore wearing a shirt with the hot wheels logo. One of my coworkers asked that school is in Monroe right. I think that our brand is not very well known out of the local area I am afraid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonCajun View Post
    You are correct. Branding ourselves as Ragin Cajuns does nothing for our true identity. Outside of Louisiana, most people don't know if Ragin Cajuns goes with ULM, UL L, or LA Tech. Use of Ragin Cajuns will let every media in the country pick and choose what they want to call us, i.e. Louisiana Lafayette, UL Lafayette, U LA LA, UL L, and every other variation that is out there and it won't be LOUISIANA and UL.

    No other school goes by their moniker as their primary branding. Whoever came up with this idea should be fired. Probably the same person who told the SBC to refer to us as UL-L. I am really disappointed in Dr. S if he is approving this.

    Here is an idea, why not follow with Wisconsin does. Their official name is the University of Wisconsin-Madison. That's right, it is hyphenated. See their official university logo below. On their academic website, it has the W logo on the left and to the right of it the Wisconsin above University of Wisconsin-Madison. Academically, it refers to itself on its website as UW-Madison.

    Athletics is simply Wisconsin. Not Badgers.

    Why can't we do something similar academically like Wisconsin does? We are still using our official name but connecting it to LOUISIANA.

    LOUISIANA
    University of Louisiana Lafayette
    This is, or was the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    "One and Only is brand new but "only" Ragin' Cajuns is not new.

    Just last month a non local media outlet referred to a team as the ULM Ragin' Cajuns.

    You simply can not get away with a front porch that is detached from the house.
    ---I thought that the football guide had the desired names of what to call and not call us athletically!!! If I am correct it called for Louisiana and asked never to be referred to as UL Laf etc!!! I think we are trying to keep Louisiana but stay away from law suites and other situations

    -being careful to use only Louisiana and not University

    this also would include going to the legislature for a bill finally ending our hopes

    Remember --all the state schools are against us from the top to the vary lowly ---in my opinion it has some jealousy in it

    Can anybody name a school that would support us using just Louisiana??


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    No.

    Outside of this state, very little people know who you're talking about. They may have heard the name Ragin Cajuns before or even seen some of our games on TV, but they have no clue for which school the Ragin Cajuns play.

    It's wishful thinking to ever think we could develop a brand in the collegiate athletic world by simply pushing Ragin Cajuns.

    This move by those in power is simply a surrender. They look on the whole name battle as completely unnecessary, and never had an issue with UL Lafayette to begin with. They are tired of dealing with this, and want it all to just go away.

    Or, at least that is what I heard as a completely crazy rumor not grounded in fact.

    We still don't have much national name recognition. I was talking with a sales guy from out of state (Illinois) who seemed to be up on college football. When I told him I went to UL he said, "Ragin Cajuns?" I thought that was good until he said, "you guys beat Alabama a few years back, right?"

    We need out of the this conference, yesterday. As long as we associate with ulm and the sunbelt, we are just an above average team with an identity crises in what is perceived as the worst league in D1 football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunStros View Post
    We still don't have much national name recognition. I was talking with a sales guy from out of state (Illinois) who seemed to be up on college football. When I told him I went to UL he said, "Ragin Cajuns?" I thought that was good until he said, "you guys beat Alabama a few years back, right?"

    We need out of the this conference, yesterday. As long as we associate with ulm and the sunbelt, we are just an above average team with an identity crises in what is perceived as the worst league in D1 football.
    We continue to be our own worse enemy. Amazing leadership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonCajun View Post
    We continue to be our own worse enemy. Amazing leadership.

    Yup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oiler View Post
    I think most people outside of our state associate Ragin Cajuns with us. They may associate it with UL-Lafayette, buy they know it's us.
    Actually, no they don't. I live in the Houston area and deal with this fairly often. Most people know the Ragin' Cajun moniker but DO NOT know what school it's affiliated with. It's even worse now with how the Cajun notion has grown in popularity (swamp people, etc.). I wear a band on my safety glasses with our Ragin'Cajun branding on it. I get quite a few people asking what the reference is too (heritage, the show, sports, etc.) I'm with CN on this one...not sure this is such a great idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    ---I thought that the football guide had the desired names of what to call and not call us athletically!!! If I am correct it called for Louisiana and asked never to be referred to as UL Laf etc!!! I think we are trying to keep Louisiana but stay away from law suites and other situations

    -being careful to use only Louisiana and not University

    this also would include going to the legislature for a bill finally ending our hopes

    Remember --all the state schools are against us from the top to the vary lowly ---in my opinion it has some jealousy in it

    Can anybody name a school that would support us using just Louisiana??

    Louisiana.edu has the right guidelines, but aside from SI no one practices what they preach.

    As far as what other schools think you will never beat a 17-1 vote of support, but that won't stop them from wishing they were LSU or Louisiana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragin9221 View Post
    Let's just hope it's one season, I personally don't like it, wouldn't surprise me if it became the official logo. We really need to cowarding on the Louisiana issue.

    Can we please stick with one logo, and be done and please don't make it the Ragin Cajuns logo, what is wrong with Louisiana Ragin Cajuns. Having just Ragin Cajuns doesn't change that we will be UL-Laffy to death when it comes to the media
    I don't care if we were the Purple People Eaters, the media will call us UL-Lafayette just for spite.......This has been proven time and again. Nothing we can do about it unless the University take this to court with the right lawyer's ........I think this case can be won because of the fact that the UL system granted the change and a year or so later the LSU alumni in the legislation and judgers change the law to suit LSU........That's my take on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    No.

    Outside of this state, very little people know who you're talking about. They may have heard the name Ragin Cajuns before or even seen some of our games on TV, but they have no clue for which school the Ragin Cajuns play.

    It's wishful thinking to ever think we could develop a brand in the collegiate athletic world by simply pushing Ragin Cajuns.

    This move by those in power is simply a surrender. They look on the whole name battle as completely unnecessary, and never had an issue with UL Lafayette to begin with. They are tired of dealing with this, and want it all to just go away.

    Or, at least that is what I heard as a completely crazy rumor not grounded in fact.
    This......period

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oiler View Post
    I think most people outside of our state associate Ragin Cajuns with us. They may associate it with UL-Lafayette, buy they know it's us.
    Sure.....that's why the Lafayette Leopards logo keeps popping up during our broadcasts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajuns4me View Post
    Actually, no they don't. I live in the Houston area and deal with this fairly often. Most people know the Ragin' Cajun moniker but DO NOT know what school it's affiliated with. It's even worse now with how the Cajun notion has grown in popularity (swamp people, etc.). I wear a band on my safety glasses with our Ragin'Cajun branding on it. I get quite a few people asking what the reference is too (heritage, the show, sports, etc.) I'm with CN on this one...not sure this is such a great idea.
    My experience in Houston is people who do NOT follow college sports think my apparel and decals refer to the restaurants or just my heritage. Those folks only know of LSU.

    Casual college sports fans know who we are but we get confused with Monroe from time to time...In my opinion this has everything to do with our names and not the conference we are in. Those same folks have no idea if we are in CUSA or Sunbelt...all they know is BIG 12 and SEC.

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    I'd like to push Ragin' Cajuns. The whole Louisiana thing is trouble most of the time. We always end up being confused with Lafayette University or ULM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by raginsaints View Post
    I'd like to push Ragin' Cajuns. The whole Louisiana thing is trouble most of the time. We always end up being confused with Lafayette University or ULM.
    We will always be confused with Monroe as long as people know us a UL-Lafayette....this won't stop by pushing ONLY Ragin Cajuns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAWFISH61 View Post
    I was at a company function in Baltimore wearing a shirt with the hot wheels logo. One of my coworkers asked that school is in Monroe right. I think that our brand is not very well known out of the local area I am afraid.
    Even more local than that...
    My family and I did a little road trip to the north part of Georgia earlier this summer. We stopped in Montgomery, Alabama to eat at an Italian pizza place (Tomatinos - I highly recommend!) Anyway, I ran into two different groups that thought the same thing....that school in Monroe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    "One and Only is brand new but "only" Ragin' Cajuns is not new.

    Just last month a non local media outlet referred to a team as the ULM Ragin' Cajuns.

    You simply can not get away with a front porch that is detached from the house.
    That's a houseboat that moves around and needs a home. Good luck and wish I had an answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BayouRichard View Post
    That's a houseboat that moves around and needs a home. Good luck and wish I had an answer.
    Hah, nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    No.

    Outside of this state, very little people know who you're talking about. They may have heard the name Ragin Cajuns before or even seen some of our games on TV, but they have no clue for which school the Ragin Cajuns play.

    It's wishful thinking to ever think we could develop a brand in the collegiate athletic world by simply pushing Ragin Cajuns.

    This move by those in power is simply a surrender. They look on the whole name battle as completely unnecessary, and never had an issue with UL Lafayette to begin with. They are tired of dealing with this, and want it all to just go away.

    Or, at least that is what I heard as a completely crazy rumor not grounded in fact.
    I think you are exactly correct. I do not believe going exclusively with "Ragin Cajuns" is a branding push. It is a means to disassociate "Louisiana" long enough to slow play "Louisiana-Lafayette" into use. But...

    You can write Ragin Cajuns on everything you want, but you will either be identified with school/location, and it will be a free-for-all with every messed up name we've heard and a few new ones, or you will leave people unaware of who or where we are, clueless to a greater extent than before.

    This is a pathetic (and wimpy) path forward. It was either nut up and fight one group for going one direction, or fight another for going the opposite direction. And as usual... our admin chose curtain number 3... to hide behind. Wimpy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    ... disassociate "Louisiana" long enough to slow play "Louisiana-Lafayette" into use. But...
    Louisiana marketing hires' baffle me with their lack of knowledge on the subject they are in charge of.

    Just like they didn't know that UL-L was totally off limits, how do they not know that Louisiana-Lafayette is illegal?

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    Personally, unless and until we've made our way to something comparable to the AAC or Mountain West, I don't see conference affiliation doing much of anything for us name recognition-wise. I have always liked the idea of the athletic department branding our team as the Louisiana Ragin Cajuns. We are Louisiana Ragin Cajuns. And I sincerely hope we continue with that effort.

    But all the arm twisting in the world to call us what we want won't get the brand recognition results of seeing our football squad compete in an Access Bowl, our basketball team make a deep run in the NCAA tournament or our baseball team win the whole enchilada......any of which are attainable.


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