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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonCajun View Post
    It has bee 15 years since our name change and a marketing nightmare.??Time for some needed changes. The dialogue on this board is good.
    Im good with the discussion, and I'm ready for some of the improvements mentioned. I don't think the "L" is a good idea. Bigger programs that are already established nationally can tinker with all kinds of things. The tinkering isn't what got them big. When we tinker too much, it makes us look desperate and silly. I've read all of your arguments for the "L" and I just don't want to go that direction. To me, we'll get laughed at. People will put the hand symbol for "L" on their forehead and mock us as "Losers". I just don't like it. the ways we display "UL" and "Louisiana" work fine. Our problem is in getting outsiders to use it on scoreboards and journalistic work. Do you think they'll put an "L" for us? I sure hope not. The "L" doesn't help identify us. I don't even like what Louisville is doing with it. It looks like crap. It's their ego trying to be like the "O" of Oregon. It looks like pure crap if you ask me, and it doesn't help them one bit. To me, I think we just need to delete some dumb things, including the yellow flames. Most of our other stuff needs to stay in place while we're in this current athletic up time. We've got some identity going that needs to stay in place. Getting rid of Cayenne and yellow flames (and yellow anywhere else) are enough for me right now.

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    Marketing Light...

    LA is for ticker tape score scrolling as there simply is no other option.

    L for the Letterman's club and exclusively for lettermen.

    UL ever day use and the "I love UL" hand sign are very unique.

    Louisiana for everything print and legal.

    Ragin' Cajuns for everything.

    Bullgator: Right where it has been for most of UL history, representing on campus.


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    I see more Ragin' Cajuns out of the athletic dept and less Louisiana lately.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunDreDog View Post
    I see more Ragin' Cajuns out of the athletic dept and less Louisiana lately.
    I'm fine with that. Yeah, I'd love to see more Louisiana, but our moniker is unique to us. Let's use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathancpike View Post
    I'm fine with that. Yeah, I'd love to see more Louisiana, but our moniker is unique to us. Let's use it.
    I want mixes of both. I don't really care how they're mixed up on a variety of uniforms. The only thing I've been watchful of is that our admin tries to go "Ragin Cajuns" on everything in order to eventually eliminate the "Louisiana" on everything. That is unacceptable to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexhead View Post
    I can get behind nearly everything you wrote. We need a comprehensive, campus-wide, unwavering approach to this like yesterday. However, can we PUHLEEZE stop this bull gator crap. It is a tired, suck-_____ idea that has already been done. For crying out loud, we benefit from having one of the most unique footprints on the planet. I cannot see why we want to give that up. Florida beat us to the gator. Let's move on.
    Surely you jest, you don't move on from unique footprints.

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    I think logos look "big time" when they are simple and not complicated. The more detailed, the more small time they look.


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    Don't want, NEED more of these threads.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunfan337 View Post





    Don't want, NEED more of these threads.
    That looks like the infamous "Mr. CAJUN" beating the dead horse. No offense, but Mr. CAJUN didn't go over too well the first time.

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    No.


    Tennessee VOLUNTEERS -- mascot, Coonhound

    Texas A&M AGGIES -- mascot, Collie

    Louisiana CAJUNS -- mascot, Catahoula


    See a trend?

    When your nickname is a group of people, you have to be really careful with your mascots. It is best to have a mascot that furthers your identity as a people or it should simply be a background character. Otherwise, they become your de facto nickname.

    For those of you who love Ragin' Cajuns, you should be adamantly against the Gator mascot.




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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    No.


    Tennessee VOLUNTEERS -- mascot, Coonhound

    Texas A&M AGGIES -- mascot, Collie

    Louisiana CAJUNS -- mascot, Catahoula


    See a trend?

    When your nickname is a group of people, you have to be really careful with your mascots. It is best to have a mascot that furthers your identity as a people or it should simply be a background character. Otherwise, they become your de facto nickname.

    For those of you who love Ragin' Cajuns, you should be adamantly against the Gator mascot.
    Those are some pretty dogs. So how long until we have a $2 million "environment" for "RC I" (I actually think it would be a hoot to mock A&M by creating a run for the dog on campus and calling it RC's "environment" and then wheeling him into the stadium in a giant cage.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    No.


    Tennessee VOLUNTEERS -- mascot, Coonhound

    Texas A&M AGGIES -- mascot, Collie

    Louisiana CAJUNS -- mascot, Catahoula


    See a trend?

    When your nickname is a group of people, you have to be really careful with your mascots. It is best to have a mascot that furthers your identity as a people or it should simply be a background character. Otherwise, they become your de facto nickname.

    For those of you who love Ragin' Cajuns, you should be adamantly against the Gator mascot.
    Do you have Ron Guidry in mind?

    Louisiana will never avoid the Bull Gator connection. Quit living in denial.

    I have brought friends from Hawaii and Dayton Ohio to the campus Swamp and the main thing they were eager to see was the Alligators.

    Long before any TV show brought Louisiana into the World's living room the one thing that caught their attention was Alligators. I speak of my cousins kn Nebraska, Alligators were a universal curiosity for them. This facination will continue long after any television show goes off the air.

    You have an asset, use it.

    Oh and the one on the sidelines would not be a mascot, but a crowd boosting spirit leader of sorts.

    There are to many dogs in the NCAA, talk about not getting noticed and wasting money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    No.


    Tennessee VOLUNTEERS -- mascot, Coonhound

    Texas A&M AGGIES -- mascot, Collie

    Louisiana CAJUNS -- mascot, Catahoula


    See a trend?

    When your nickname is a group of people, you have to be really careful with your mascots. It is best to have a mascot that furthers your identity as a people or it should simply be a background character. Otherwise, they become your de facto nickname.

    For those of you who love Ragin' Cajuns, you should be adamantly against the Gator mascot.



    I think a Catahoula is a great idea! It's the state dog and uniquely Cajun.

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    Missing the point Turbine.

    If your mascot is different than your much marketed nickname, it would be wise to not interfere with that marketing.

    You can bring all the people you want to see Cypress Swamp and the pretty baby alligators. Just don't make it the mascot, unless you are looking to replace Ragin Cajuns.

    Don't think it can't happen, especially in today's bass ackwards political environment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by California Cajun View Post
    I think a Catahoula is a great idea! It's the state dog and uniquely Cajun.
    The history of the Catahoula is incredible. Originating from domesticated wolves of the local Indians and possibly interbreeding with Spanish war dogs around 500 years ago, then these wolf dogs were interbred with the Beauceron dogs brought in by the French in the 1700's. Bred to hunt the swamps and marshes of Louisiana. Now known worldwide for its bravery and ferocity yet still smart and docile enough to be a family pet.

    This dog IS Louisiana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    Missing the point Turbine.

    If your mascot is different than your much marketed nickname, it would be wise to not interfere with that marketing.

    You can bring all the people you want to see Cypress Swamp and the pretty baby alligators. Just don't make it the mascot, unless you are looking to replace Ragin Cajuns.

    Don't think it can't happen, especially in today's bass ackwards political environment.
    Your objection seems to be that Alligators would present an overpowering brand identity. I don't see it that way, even though there would be no education curve needed.

    None of the State symbols below could ever overpower Ragin' Cajuns.

    Alligators, Brown Pelicans, Crawfish, Catahoula LEOPARD dogs, Magnolias, petrified Palmwood, White Perch, Honeybee and the Black Bear.

    Of those, one is already universally accepted, some would require a dissertation to explain and one would only add to the Lafayette Indiana Leopard controversy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Your objection seems to be that Alligators would present an overpowering brand identity.
    Yes.

    Unless you are plotting to change to the Louisiana Gators.

    You won't be able to stop that. Talk about education curves. You would be constantly explaining to people what our proper nickname is and how we aren't copying Florida from the stadium name to our, uhh, spirit leader?

    Don't go there.

    Again, our situation is very similar to Tennessee and A&M. Would be wise to follow their model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    Yes.

    Unless you are plotting to change to the Louisiana Gators.

    You won't be able to stop that. Talk about education curves. You would be constantly explaining to people what our proper nickname is and how we aren't copying Florida from the stadium name to our, uhh, spirit leader?

    Don't go there.

    Again, our situation is very similar to Tennessee and A&M. Would be wise to follow their model.
    If 115 years of (on off) campus representation hasn't produced your claim (ok there is Ron Guidry) you have nothing to fear.

    Personally I would LOVE to have the Florida Stadium conversation front and center, relish might be a better word. It would result in massive amounts of legitimate free advertising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    Yes.

    Unless you are plotting to change to the Louisiana Gators.

    You won't be able to stop that. Talk about education curves. You would be constantly explaining to people what our proper nickname is and how we aren't copying Florida from the stadium name to our, uhh, spirit leader?

    Don't go there.

    Again, our situation is very similar to Tennessee and A&M. Would be wise to follow their model.
    I understand your wanting to promote using the State Dog, CatahULa, as our mascot. But, I don't buy your argument that we would be referred to as the Gators because we have a Gator mascot to go along with our moniker, Ragin Cajuns. Alabama's mascot is an elephant and moniker is the Crimson Tide. That seems more akin to our situation. No one calls them the Alabama Elephants. I think using a Bullgator as a mascot would not be the same as Florida who uses the Gators (not Bullgators) as both their mascot and moniker. Or, what about Tulane with the Green Wave as their moniker and Pelican as their mascot? No one calls them the Tulane Pelicans.

    And, what is wrong with using a Bullgator? There are hundreds of teams that are called the Tigers or Bulldogs, but only 1 with a moniker called Ragin Cajuns and only one with a moniker and mascot called the Gators. So, we would be only the 2nd school to use that as a mascot, not moniker. And, we would be in great company with a school like Florida. To just copy it is one thing. To have a history and tradition of having a Gator on campus in The Swamp is another. I don't think Florida was too concerned that our football stadium was called The Swamp before they adopted it. We can back-up any questions that come our way in that regard. Besides, Clemson and LSU are both the Tigers and both claim their stadiums are Death Valley. No problem there. So what if these are long standing traditions for both schools. The gator and Swamp are long standing traditions for us that we are only now choosing to emphasize. JMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonCajun View Post

    And, what is wrong with using a Bullgator?
    I think most people would say, "what in the heck is a bullgator? "

    Plus, the only dude running around in a costume at Cajun Field I want to see is the Fabulous Cajun Chicken.

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