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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    No to the "L". It resolves nothing with our identity issue... but adds to the problem. And as for Cayenne... get rid of it. Anything big and fuzzy is fine for kids... so their liking of Cayenne is irrelevant. They'll like whatever next big fuzzy creature we come up with. As much as I'm hesitant to go with a Red Gator... it's infinitely better than Cayenne. I'm not concerned about being called "the gators". It will never stick. It just isn't insulting enough... like the "flaming vegetable" is right now. Ragin Cajuns is our greatest idea... ever... and it is taking us places.

    But again... the "L" isn't going to do one thing for us but create more issues. "Louisiana" and "UL" are the only athletic nicknames/apparel logo'ing we should stick with.

    There were 2 Mexican Women that recently got married Louis Y Anna

    btw how will this same sex marriage effect title 9 or the trans gender effect the locker rooms??? Can Bruce Jenner still go to the men's locker room???


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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuns_fan View Post
    Exactly: about as far away from a hallowed, time honored tradition as you can get, lol. Per Wikipedia, he was introduced in 2000.....so that's just 15 years ago, for you ltur stalkers, lol.
    I have a document from 1999 where a UL marketing official lamented or compared the upcoming adoption of the pepper with having to do penance.

    The introduction may have been 2000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuns_fan View Post
    I just don't think getting rid of the pepper is equivalent in any way shape or form to us adopting either tigers or bulldogs. He's only been around for ~10 years.....was not very well received from the beginning, and that continues to this day. Sorry. I just think we can and should do better.
    First, I want to thank you for your civil tone. We are far more likely to affect each other's thinking through civil discourse!

    That said, where we more accurately disagree is on whether forfeiting the unique perception we have in college football. You can see the trouble we have already with people confusing us with ULM and Lafayette College. That is only going to get worse if we copy one of the most well known brands in sports. Do you think it would be long before fans start doing the UF alligator chomp? This is the point I was trying to make with the Tigers and Bulldogs remark. Copying someone else's well staked-out ground is not good policy. It won't help us grow or appeal to new fans. All it is going to do is diminish the perception of our beloved school. Sorry, I can't go along with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexhead View Post
    First, I want to thank you for your civil tone. We are far more likely to affect each other's thinking through civil discourse!

    That said, where we more accurately disagree is on whether forfeiting the unique perception we have in college football. You can see the trouble we have already with people confusing us with ULM and Lafayette College. That is only going to get worse if we copy one of the most well known brands in sports. Do you think it would be long before fans start doing the UF alligator chomp? This is the point I was trying to make with the Tigers and Bulldogs remark. Copying someone else's well staked-out ground is not good policy. It won't help us grow or appeal to new fans. All it is going to do is diminish the perception of our beloved school. Sorry, I can't go along with that.

    Ice Gators????? Did they chomp before Fla???


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexhead View Post
    First, I want to thank you for your civil tone. We are far more likely to affect each other's thinking through civil discourse!

    That said, where we more accurately disagree is on whether forfeiting the unique perception we have in college football. You can see the trouble we have already with people confusing us with ULM and Lafayette College. That is only going to get worse if we copy one of the most well known brands in sports. Do you think it would be long before fans start doing the UF alligator chomp? This is the point I was trying to make with the Tigers and Bulldogs remark. Copying someone else's well staked-out ground is not good policy. It won't help us grow or appeal to new fans. All it is going to do is diminish the perception of our beloved school. Sorry, I can't go along with that.
    I don't see where Ragin' Cajuns acknowledging the longstanding inhabitants on campus, dilutes The Swamp brand.

    I don't see the Spirit leader becoming the identity.

    I see it more like adding a supporting character to a TV or Movie series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexhead View Post
    First, I want to thank you for your civil tone. We are far more likely to affect each other's thinking through civil discourse!

    That said, where we more accurately disagree is on whether forfeiting the unique perception we have in college football. You can see the trouble we have already with people confusing us with ULM and Lafayette College. That is only going to get worse if we copy one of the most well known brands in sports. Do you think it would be long before fans start doing the UF alligator chomp? This is the point I was trying to make with the Tigers and Bulldogs remark. Copying someone else's well staked-out ground is not good policy. It won't help us grow or appeal to new fans. All it is going to do is diminish the perception of our beloved school. Sorry, I can't go along with that.
    I agree. Just say NO to the gators.

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    So some want to immortalized a spirit leader most have hated from day one. And we keep this hated icon because he is 15 years old


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post

    There were 2 Mexican Women that recently got married Louis Y Anna

    btw how will this same sex marriage effect title 9 or the trans gender effect the locker rooms??? Can Bruce Jenner still go to the men's locker room???

    Huh? How would same sex marriage effect locker rooms or Title IV? I think transgender people go to the locker room/restroom that they identify with. Are you planning a switch, Boomer... or are you just curious?

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    Since Cayenne is for the kids, I say bring him back! They love him. Our mascot is what we make of it. We need consistency and stability to build a brand. Geaux Cayenne!

    I do agree we need to change the names of the marching band to the Pride of Louisiana and our football stadium to Louisiana stadium. How nice would the red letters "LOUISIANA" look on our football stadium? It could be seen from the road. It's time for the athletic department to get serious and make an assertive push for the Louisiana brand.


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    L'Acadien yearbook once sported a BullGator hyde.

    This brand reinforcement has a long history at UL.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    I don't see where Ragin' Cajuns acknowledging the longstanding inhabitants on campus, dilutes The Swamp brand.

    I don't see the Spirit leader becoming the identity.

    I see it more like adding a supporting character to a TV or Movie series.
    Well said....in a way that I couldn't, lol. The new mascot would by no means be the center of our brand, just a part of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajuns_fan View Post
    Well said....in a way that I couldn't, lol. The new mascot would by no means be the center of our brand, just a part of it.
    The bull gator mascot would only add to the confusion. Are we the Ragin' Cajuns or Ragin' Gators? The answer is simple for me.

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    The bull gator mascot would only add to the confusion. Are we the Ragin' Cajuns or Ragin' Gators? The answer is simple for me.
    No one ever called us the Ragin Cayennes either. I see no reason we'd be identified as "The Gators" just by having a gator as a mascot. Do the aTm Aggies or the Tenn Vols get called "Dogs" because both have a dog mascot? The gator is an animal with teeth. Cayenne is a vegetable and it was a dumb concept from the git-go. And kids aren't the arbitrators here. Once again, we can place anything whatsoever that's big and fuzzy, that looks like a stuffed animal, in front of kids and they'll love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    No to the "L". It resolves nothing with our identity issue... but adds to the problem. And as for Cayenne... get rid of it. Anything big and fuzzy is fine for kids... so their liking of Cayenne is irrelevant. They'll like whatever next big fuzzy creature we come up with. As much as I'm hesitant to go with a Red Gator... it's infinitely better than Cayenne. I'm not concerned about being called "the gators". It will never stick. It just isn't insulting enough... like the "flaming vegetable" is right now. Ragin Cajuns is our greatest idea... ever... and it is taking us places.

    But again... the "L" isn't going to do one thing for us but create more issues. "Louisiana" and "UL" are the only athletic nicknames/apparel logo'ing we should stick with.
    The "L" is strictly for uniforms, caps, etc. schools like Michigan use the "M" in everything, yet refer to themselves as Michigan and UM. The Old English "L" that Louisville uses is used the same way, and they go by Louisville and U of L. Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, etc. all use the letter but refer to themselves as UA and UF. What better letter for Louisiana than an "L"? Using it means we don't have to tack on the legally needed Lafayette. No one calls them by the single letter and neither would we. Want to get away from UL Lafayette on clothing? Use "L". It won't create any more issues for us than it does for UF, UA, UT, etc. and will not confuse our identity. Why is it that the things that successful programs do won't work for us. There is a reason they are successful. Let's learn from it.

    Someone pointed out the last thing I forgot to mention to capture the Louisiana name. Change the name of the Pride of Acadiana to the Pride of Louisiana. Talk about name confusion.

    It has bee 15 years since our name change and a marketing nightmare.??Time for some needed changes. The dialogue on this board is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMD7636 View Post
    The bull gator mascot would only add to the confusion. Are we the Ragin' Cajuns or Ragin' Gators? The answer is simple for me.
    The Fabulous Cajun Chicken never caused confusion, and that was as strong of a character as you will ever see.

    The only reason the Pepper caused mass confusion was because the pepper logo was inserted into the Ragin' Cajuns logo. So yes a few called UL the peppers. A few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonCajun View Post
    The "L" is strictly for uniforms, caps, etc. schools like Michigan use the "M" in everything, yet refer to themselves as Michigan and UM. The Old English "L" that Louisville uses is used the same way, and they go by Louisville and U of L. Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, etc. all use the letter but refer to themselves as UA and UF. What better letter for Louisiana than an "L"? Using it means we don't have to tack on the legally needed Lafayette. No one calls them by the single letter and neither would we. Want to get away from UL Lafayette on clothing? Use "L". It won't create any more issues for us than it does for UF, UA, UT, etc. and will not confuse our identity. Why is it that the things that successful programs do won't work for us. There is a reason they are successful. Let's learn from it.

    Someone pointed out the last thing I forgot to mention to capture the Louisiana name. Change the name of the Pride of Acadiana to the Pride of Louisiana. Talk about name confusion.

    It has bee 15 years since our name change and a marketing nightmare.??Time for some needed changes. The dialogue on this board is good.
    The Lettermen used to sport a giant "S" and initially I had suggested the keep the S and let is stand for Sports.

    Do the Lettermen sport an "L" these days? I don't know, but it would fit tradition.

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    Huh? How would same sex marriage effect locker rooms or Title IV? I think transgender people go to the locker room/restroom that they identify with. Are you planning a switch, Boomer... or are you just curious?
    ---Same sex marriage in the locker room--don't think that a husband and wife have been on the same team before---What if we would have an entire woman's team of men to women athletes??? Not familiar with title IV (guess you meant IX)

    BTW, has a transgender ever competed in any NCAA event???


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    L - Disagree. We have a hard enough time being confused with Lafayette College as it is I think this would just compound the problem.
    Mascot n - I say bring back Cayenne. He represents the culture in Louisiana well in that he's a unique concept. Making our mascot an alligator would look like we're followers of everybody else that already have an alligator mascot instead of pioneers. Although I do think that we need to take the pepper off the school logo.


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    ---Same sex marriage in the locker room--don't think that a husband and wife have been on the same team before---What if we would have an entire woman's team of men to women athletes??? Not familiar with title IV (guess you meant IX)

    BTW, has a transgender ever competed in any NCAA event???

    Title IV is when a guy has a I and has it surgically altered to a V. Why are you transboomering from logos to sex change operations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    Title IV is when a guy has a I and has it surgically altered to a V. Why are you transboomering from logos to sex change operations?
    ---OK I think I tracked my thoughts down--Saw that somebody had done a Louis--Anna post and it din't have a middle connecting sound so I go for the Spanish Y which sounds like the connector sound of our state---then I start thinking about the 2 girls and if one was a guy and how that would work---well you get the idea---So many of my songs started just like this but on different subjects---maybe I can get you my CD!!!

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