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    According to The Daily Advertiser, UL football coach Rickey Bustle and the university have tentatively agreed to a one-year contract extension through the 2011 season after reconfiguring the buyout clause.



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    Any more insight on that buyout clause? I hope it's something like "if the team fails to get to a bowl, Bustle foregoes his 2011 salary."


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    Default Re: Bustle, UL agree to extension through 2011 season

    Quote Originally Posted by Crackleton View Post
    _ Any more insight on that buyout clause? I hope it's something like "if the team fails to get to a bowl, Bustle foregoes his 2011 salary." _
    Yea, I'd assume they would have spent plenty of time negotiating the buyout should he not meet certain expectations next year. That way we wont be in this same position next year.

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    I'm just going off the top of my head here, but I don't recall ever hearing of 1-year extensions for D-1 football coaches anywhere else. Usually, it's either the guy is good, and they want to keep him for multiyears, or the guy is not who they want and they move on. What in the world or we doing?


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    Default Re: Bustle, UL agree to extension through 2011 season

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    _ According to The Daily Advertiser, UL football coach Rickey Bustle and the university have tentatively agreed to a one-year contract extension through the 2011 season after reconfiguring the buyout clause.



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    That should help recruiting over the next year or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parrott View Post
    _ According to The Daily Advertiser, UL football coach Rickey Bustle and the university have tentatively agreed to a one-year contract extension through the 2011 season after reconfiguring the buyout clause.


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    I am glad they extended Bustle's contract. The schedule next year is very challenging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ULGrad@HOU View Post
    _ I'm just going off the top of my head here, but I don't recall ever hearing of 1-year extensions for D-1 football coaches anywhere else. Usually, it's either the guy is good, and they want to keep him for multiyears, or the guy is not who they want and they move on. What in the world or we doing? _
    trying not to make the same mistake as ULM did and end up with worse than you already had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crackleton View Post
    _ Any more insight on that buyout clause? I hope it's something like "if the team fails to get to a bowl, Bustle foregoes his 2011 salary." _
    Much larger reduction in the buyout clause. It's a good deal for both parties.

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    As I previously mentioned, the buyout was reconfigured. It was reduced, although final terms will not be available until all parties sign off and it gets approved by the state board.


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    _ trying not to make the same mistake as ULM did and end up with worse than you already had. _
    Yes, If our administration is committed to a winning program, then we should be able to tell by the hiring of the coach, when that time comes. I don't expect it to be anything close to what ULM is doing. Although, it's scary to think that it could be.

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    I don't get it, he already has clauses for extensions and hasn't met them since 2005. He could even meet them next year, why would he want to renegotiate?

    The only logic I can find is 'give the guy an extension so we can sucker kids in.' and I don't think a good recruiter needs that advantage. A poor recruiter perhaps.

    I don't get the advantage (of renegotiating) from either side.

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    We should have done this 2 weeks ago when we made the decision to keep him. Maybe we land the 2 JUCO players (Walker and Alexander) if they knew or thought Bustle would be here for another 2 years instead of 1.


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    Default Re: Bustle, UL agree to extension through 2011 season

    Is it April 1st? Am I missing something? What in the F is going on here?


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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Town Cajun View Post
    _ We should have done this 2 weeks ago when we made the decision to keep him. Maybe we land the 2 JUCO players (Walker and Alexander) if they knew or thought Bustle would be here for another 2 years instead of 1. _
    J-Town, we never offered Alexander. He told someone with Scout that we offered him and they listed the Cajuns. Alexander is not the type of character we need in this program. Walker, wanted to play in a better conference and with a better program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    _ I don't get it, he already has clauses for extensions and hasn't met them since 2005. He could even meet them next year, why would he want to renegotiate?

    The only logic I can find is 'give the guy an extension so we can sucker kids in.' and I don't think a good recruiter needs that advantage. A poor recruiter perhaps.

    I don't get the advantage (of renegotiating) from either side.

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    Its not about "suckering kids in." Its about other teams' coaches telling recruits that our coach is out after this year so why commit to this program when you have no idea who your coach will be. This way Bustle can say that he'll be here this year and next and could be extended again depending on the success a kid can help to bring.

    This is a no brainer. If he doesnt do a good job next year, the buyout is much less than it was previously. At the same time, you have the assurance from the admin to tell your recruits that the coach will be there for more than just next year.

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    For the record, Tyrunn Walker's JUCO coach told me that it came down to Tulsa and UL. He really liked Tulsa, especially the program's success (obviously not in 2009). Plus, his coach hinted that he kind of wanted to get away from home and experience new things, but that wasn't because the Cajuns did anything wrong. Tulsa was just a better fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wcd35 View Post
    _ Its not about "suckering kids in." Its about other teams' coaches telling recruits that our coach is out after this year so why commit to this program when you have no idea who your coach will be. This way Bustle can say that he'll be here this year and next and could be extended again depending on the success a kid can help to bring.

    This is a no brainer. If he doesnt do a good job next year, the buyout is much less than it was previously. At the same time, you have the assurance from the admin to tell your recruits that the coach will be there for more than just next year. _
    When Bustle was hired he was given a set of expectations/requirements. If you meet these you will keep your job through automatic extensions.

    After 8 years and unmet agreed upon benchmark expectations (save 2005) an extension now says UL has lower expectations today than it did in the immediate aftermath of the Baldwin era.

    The thing is Bustle still has the opportunity to "earn" extensions through the results of next season with the contract he has now (had yesterday). So if he recruits with a winning season attitude the recruit KNOWS he will be the coach for the long haul.

    Why would Bustle negotiate that away unless he has no confidence in his system.

    I am so confused thus I don't get it.

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    Default Re: Bustle, UL agree to extension through 2011 season

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    _ When Bustle was hired he was given a set of expectations/requirements. If you meet these you will keep your job through automatic extensions.

    After 8 years and unmet agreed upon benchmark expectations (save 2005) an extension now says UL has lower expectations today than it did in the immediate aftermath of the Baldwin era.

    The thing is Bustle still has the opportunity to "earn" extensions through the results of next season with the contract he has now (had yesterday). So if he recruits with a winning season attitude the recruit KNOWS he will be the coach for the long haul.

    Why would Bustle negotiate that away unless he has no confidence in his system.

    I am so confused thus I don't get it.

    jmo _
    None of that matters. When a kid is getting recruited Dooley or Toledo says, why go to UL, Bustle has 1 year left on his contract, he'll be gone. This extension takes that threat/comment off the table.

    You're way overthinking this. The contract means little in terms of lessening expectations or anything like that. Its just to shut other coaches up. There are few negatives to this other than the minimal price we will have to pay to buy him out should we not get to where we need to be. The recruiting aspects far outweigh any buyout or "diminishing expectations"

    At the end of this year, the decision had to be either can him or extend him. The in between is worse than either of the extremes. If you though we should can him, this should not change your opinion much since it really isnt a huge deal in terms of firing him in the future possibly.

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    Our administration is retards.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wcd35 View Post
    Its not about "suckering kids in." Its about other teams' coaches telling recruits that our coach is out after this year so why commit to this program when you have no idea who your coach will be. This way Bustle can say that he'll be here this year and next and could be extended again depending on the success a kid can help to bring.

    This is a no brainer. If he doesnt do a good job next year, the buyout is much less than it was previously. At the same time, you have the assurance from the admin to tell your recruits that the coach will be there for more than just next year.

    Quote Originally Posted by wcd35 View Post
    None of that matters. When a kid is getting recruited Dooley or Toledo says, why go to UL, Bustle has 1 year left on his contract, he'll be gone. This extension takes that threat/comment off the table.
    This is rich.

    So you must be of the opinion that all recruits and their parents, and every coach recruiting against UL, are either naive or dumb? If this logic is so apparent to you, then why do you think it won't be to everyone else?

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