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    _ I wonder each time we've hired a long time assistant why they have not moved up to a head coach job somewhere. There must be a reason. Maybe not a valid question but seems so to me. Robert Lee/Butch Pierre/Jessie. Even Bustle. I like to see some success at some level at head coach position. Not that we can offer a salary that would attract a major head coach. It will be interesting to see who our top three fall coaches are after 2010. _
    We don't need, as in football, a marquee name for basketball. Basketball will jumpstart itself in very short order with a good coach. It does not require what a never-been-there football program requires.

    For basketball, we do not need to discount a local coach with a solid resume. UL basketball can re-establish a premiere program with simply getting a guy who knows how to coach... Xs and Os, game and player management, knows how to motivate players to follow his practice regiment while transferring and maintaining player leadership to the right ones.

    I don't have a problem with a known head coach (without issues), a promising assistant (without issues), a person from the area or with UL ties (without issues) or a combination.

    We used to succeed with good basketball minded head coaches... and they were not geniuses. UL, the city, the Cajundome, the food, the culture, the academics and such... should not make it that difficult... with a good coach... to recruit good basketball talent that wins SBC championships and gives us postseason play at least 60% of the time.

    If we use one ounce of intelligence in our next selection, we'll be right back in the sweet saddle in basketball. In other words, I think we could do 20 plus wins a season with 50% of the people mentioned.

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    FWIW: The Dons won national championships with Bill Russell and KC Jones - in 1954-55 and 1955-56.

    San Francisco is long removed from those glory years.

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    I think it was more than his opinion. San Francisco has a great bball tradition having won a national championship years ago and plays in the same league as Gonzaza and St. Mary's. Quite a step up from the SBC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parrott View Post
    _ FWIW: The Dons won national championships with Bill Russell and KC Jones - in 1954-55 and 1955-56.

    San Francisco is long removed from those glory years.



    igeaux.mobi _
    the glory years may be in the past, but the league, the name competition, and the city are definitely current. that's what i would have been thinking as a reason for going there. to have a chance of bringing back a winner in basketball in san francisco-i'm sure that thought was very appealing to him.

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    _ the glory years may be in the past, but the league, the name competition, and the city are definitely current. that's what i would have been thinking as a reason for going there. to have a chance of bringing back a winner in basketball in san francisco-i'm sure that thought was very appealing to him. _
    I wonder if he tried to bring disco back while he was there... a winner in music in san francisco... in their glory years.

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    _ Man, TIm Floyd is a Cheat, he always cheats to win, if yuo want a cheater and a guy that pays players to come, thats on you, i dont want that at my school, you see how he is no longer at USC, I WONDER WHY??? _

    I did not say that Tim Floyd would come without baggage. However, he ran a good program at UNO and has coached on the highest levels and shown that he can recruit wherever he goes. The prevailing thought in these parts tends to be that W's are all that is important and Floyd would put us in that position quicker than anybody. This is all conjecture by the way. We will never go with him and he would never come here and we will not be limited by a 3 candidate list and those candidates will likely not even be candidates when we do look for our next coach. It was a simple answer to the posted question.

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    _ A top assistant from a powerhouse conference may get consideration, however they won't necessarily benefit from that experience as they cannot be judged how they will be perform without the big resources. It does not matter what I think or you. I am telling you that the guys making the decision will lean heavily towards the guys with HEAD Coaching experience. _

    Do you truly think that I Would want us to hire a coach with no head experience from a big conference over a qualified head coach from a smaller school? That's not my position on this. It literally comes down to much more than experience. It comes down to how that candidate would affect the community, recruiting, efficiency with working with somewhat limited resources and of course their ability to strategically coach a game and get the best out of his talent. None of us are qualified to make that decision especially when we truly don't know who the candidates would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    _ I wonder if he tried to bring disco back while he was there... a winner in music in san francisco... in their glory years. _
    ??disco?? how about jefferson airplane, jimi hendrix, country joe and the fish, grateful dead, and the fillmore west. now that was some kind of glory.

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    The Dons last reached the NCAA Tournament in 1997-98 - the program's first appearance in 16 years. He made the NIT in his first year before his departure.

    Most youngsters don't care what happened 15 years ago, let alone 50 years ago.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun Saint View Post
    the glory years may be in the past, but the league, the name competition, and the city are definitely current. that's what i would have been thinking as a reason for going there. to have a chance of bringing back a winner in basketball in san francisco-i'm sure that thought was very appealing to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun67 View Post
    _ I wonder each time we've hired a long time assistant why they have not moved up to a head coach job somewhere. There must be a reason. Maybe not a valid question but seems so to me. Robert Lee/Butch Pierre/Jessie. Even Bustle. I like to see some success at some level at head coach position. Not that we can offer a salary that would attract a major head coach. It will be interesting to see who our top three fall coaches are after 2010. _
    You know I can not think of one coach that this school has hired that was a former head coach with the exception of Robe!!!! Football were all assistants since Russ

    bball since Shipley

    maybe the track dude

    Maybe some were head HS coaches

    anybody got one?????


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun Saint View Post
    _ ??disco?? how about jefferson airplane, jimi hendrix, country joe and the fish, grateful dead, and the fillmore west. now that was some kind of glory. _
    It certainly "is" some kind of glory... I just didn't realize Jessie was into that kind of stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    _ YOu know I can not think of one coach that this school has hired that was a former head coach with the exception of Robe!!!! Football was all assistants since Russ

    bball since Shipley

    maybe the track dude

    Maybe some were head Hs coaches

    anybody got one????? _

    Marty Fletcher was the head coach at Virginia Military Institute (VMI) before coaching basketball here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    _ I did not say that Tim Floyd would come without baggage. However, he ran a good program at UNO and has coached on the highest levels and shown that he can recruit wherever he goes. The prevailing thought in these parts tends to be that W's are all that is important and Floyd would put us in that position quicker than anybody. This is all conjecture by the way. We will never go with him and he would never come here and we will not be limited by a 3 candidate list and those candidates will likely not even be candidates when we do look for our next coach. It was a simple answer to the posted question. _
    I lived in New Orleans when Floyd was coaching there. I don't necessarily believe the progam was as clean then as some think. Obviously, they did not have finances to do anything in that regard. Academically, they were heavy into the JUCO's then and I always wondered about their academic progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    _ I lived in New Orleans when Floyd was coaching there. I don't necessarily believe the progam was as clean then as some think. Obviously, they did not have finances to do anything in that regard. Academically, they were heavy into the JUCO's then and I always wondered about their academic progress. _

    But Mike, its hard to have it both ways at this level. It seems likely that we will at some point in the future have to continue to dip into the JC ranks as well with the amount of players we will lose in the next 2 years. Evans was sinking our APR but people didn't say much considering his success in his last 5 years or so. Again, this is all conjecture considering that Floyd will not be here nor even be a candidate if/when the job comes available. It's hard to say which way we should go at this point because we don't know the potential candidates that may be available when that happens.

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