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    Regarding the fourth down play in which defensive holding was called, did any you guys watching on TV get a chance to see a replay? If so, was the call legitimate. Being at the game, I have no clue about this. Masson did seem confident something would be called after he threw the incompletion. Perhaps he knew he had a free play. The last two home games are ones in which the breaks went our way. This is making up for 2007 in some way. In that year breaks went against us in the Ohio, FAU, and ULM games. That team was better than 3 and 9 and this team is not as good as the 3 and 2 record indicates. Execution must improve for us to have a winning season. Hopefully, "stealing" this game improves confidence and that will lead to better play.


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    Default Re: Defensive Holding Call ?

    I don't know if he would have been able to catch the ball, but the defender did have a hand on the receiver's back which obviously effected his leep from what i saw on the replay.


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    I'm not gonna complain, the refs screwed up a pass interference call in favor of UNT in the first, in fact it was on their first drive which resulted in the mean green getting 3 points. They didn't make up the call until the 4th quarter when the Cajuns were able to turn their favorable call into 7 points.

    Simply put, these are the Cardiac Cajuns in every sense of that term! This team gives me heart palpitations! go Cajuns!


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    I'm not sure that the holding call was called on the LB that was covering Aubrey to begin with. Second, if it was a holding call, there's a good chance that the infraction occurred at the beginning of the route rather than at the time the ball got to him. But no, I did not see whether it was legit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    _ I'm not sure that the holding call was called on the LB that was covering Aubrey to begin with. Second, if it was a holding call, there's a good chance that the infraction occurred at the beginning of the route rather than at the time the ball got to him. But no, I did not see whether it was legit. _
    I was standing on the sideline in front of the play and he had his jersey from the back before the ball was thrown. I was surprised the official saw it, they usually don't call it. The infraction happened before the pass.

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    I didn't see any really bad calls except for a non call on delay of game on one of UNT's TD drives. UNT snapped the ball a full second after the game clock expired. It would have made a longer 3rd down play, but not necessarily a game changer.


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    Default Re: Defensive Holding Call ?

    i think the refs did alot of "oops i missed that call or blew this call....i'll make it up with this call" (blows whistle and throws flag) lol

    but some were legitamite even though they were blowing calls left and right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunfan79 View Post
    _ I don't know if he would have been able to catch the ball, but the defender did have a hand on the receiver's back which obviously effected his leep from what i saw on the replay. _
    Official announced that the infraction occurred before the pass was thrown. That is why the call was defensive holding, not interference. In that situation, it does not matter if the pass is catchable or not. I am not even sure the infraction was against the guy defending the person whom the pass was intended for. Call went against No. 37 for UNT.

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    How about the double pass by Dodge. When he caught the deflection, I started yelling for him to throw it again. I remembered Jake doing it and knowing what the result would be.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cjr3888 View Post
    _ How about the double pass by Dodge. When he caught the deflection, I started yelling for him to throw it again. I remembered Jake doing it and knowing what the result would be.


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    He seemed thoroughly confused and I don't think he knew that was a penalty. He was questioning the official when they threw the flag.

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    Thats the mark of a young QB. Nobody knows that rules until they see it or it happens to them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cjr3888 View Post
    _ Thats the mark of a young QB. Nobody knows that rules until they see it or it happens to them.


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    Maybe in highschool. All college QBs should know that rule. It isn't like I fault him for the kneejerk attempt under fire... but afterwards... he shouldn't have been looking at the ref with a "what did I do wrong?" He should have known. Today, Riley Dodge is asking if that footage can be stricken from replay.

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    I was sitting on the other side of the field and did not see the play, but talked to someone afterwards who said he saw the holding basically happen right in front of him. I have no reason to doubt him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    _ Maybe in highschool. All college QBs should know that rule. It isn't like I fault him for the kneejerk attempt under fire... but afterwards... he shouldn't have been looking at the ref with a "what did I do wrong?" He should have known. Today, Riley Dodge is asking if that footage can be stricken from replay. _
    When Jake did it as a freshman... he almost had to be ejected he was arguing so much with the officials...

    After the game he explained that the play was legal at Tuerlings...

    apparently they ran that

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOCajun View Post
    _ I was sitting on the other side of the field and did not see the play, but talked to someone afterwards who said he saw the holding basically happen right in front of him. I have no reason to doubt him. _
    It happened inches from me... it was basically an uncathchable Pass intereference call - holding... you can't touch the receiver like that... but I often see it not called.

    That was a break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirogue View Post
    _ It happened inches from me... it was basically an uncathchable Pass intereference call - holding... you can't touch the receiver like that... but I often see it not called.

    That was a break. _
    You may call it a break, but the right call should never have to be considered that way. I just thank GOD the ref saw it at all!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirogue View Post
    _ It happened inches from me... it was basically an uncathchable Pass intereference call - holding... you can't touch the receiver like that... but I often see it not called.

    That was a break. _
    I have no doubt the ref called defensive holding rather than pass interference. In fact, he stated the infraction was before the pass was thrown when announcing the penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    _ I have no doubt the ref called defensive holding rather than pass interference. In fact, he stated the infraction was before the pass was thrown when announcing the penalty. _
    It was "holding" when he called it, but I think...

    He said that to quiet the two North Texas defensive backs screaming in his face that the ball was "uncatchable" and it was...

    Had they not influenced him that way he may have called Pass interference, had he done that... then after a conference the flag would have likely been "waived off"

    Refs, or at least I've never seen it, waive off a penalty after they throw a flag before making a call because of something a player says...

    I feel like he threw the flag for P.I. realized it was uncatchable from the North Texas players, and changed the call before he made the signal to holding [which happened... the receiver was held]

    That was a break.... the planets were lining up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    _ I was standing on the sideline in front of the play and he had his jersey from the back before the ball was thrown. I was surprised the official saw it, they usually don't call it. The infraction happened before the pass. _
    Saw the same thing. My Uncle who is a ref(official) was sitting with us and he called it from the stands, just prior to the ref throwing the flag. It is very nice watching a game with him.

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    I was on the sideline. There was a hold, although I think the official originally was going to call pass interference.


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