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    UL was the first school in the US to desegregate after Brown v Board, and the first historically white southern school to desegregate in any meaningful way.

    The University Press of Florida has given ultoday.com permission to reprint the history of UL's Desegregation. We will serialize the story over the next few weeks.

    First article is up on...



    Complaining about the University on the boards and in public hurts UL,
    and it hurts the Ragin' Cajuns.

    Negativity undermines our recruiting, fundraising, attendance, and ticket sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post
    _ UL was the first school in the US to desegregate after Brown v Board, and the first historically white southern school to desegregate in any meaningful way.

    The University Press of Florida has given ultoday.com permission to reprint the history of UL's Desegregation. We will serialize the story over the next few weeks.

    Installment #5 is up, talking about how the unique culture of Lafayette opened the way for desegregation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post
    _ Installment #5 is up, talking about how the unique culture of Lafayette opened the way for desegregation. _
    And Jerry Baldwin thought UL was Racist. HMMM

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    THE University of Louisiana: Leading the Way--Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow.
    how ironically sweet to look back in history and see just how far ahead of the curve we were than our faux masters across the basin. may they hang their collective heads in shame! geaux UL! geaux cajuns!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun Saint View Post
    _ THE University of Louisiana: Leading the Way--Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow.
    how ironically sweet to look back in history and see just how far ahead of the curve we were than our faux masters across the basin. may they hang their collective heads in shame! geaux UL! geaux cajuns! _

    That's right. Not just another reason, but a very important and impressive reason, UL has been and clearly is THE leader of the UL System and why we MUST capture the UL name, athletically. We cannot waiver in our quest.

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    _ That's right. Not just another reason, but a very important and impressive reason, UL has been and clearly is THE leader of the UL System and why we MUST capture the UL name, athletically. We cannot waiver in our quest. _
    OK, and you're right. But, where are we in putting to rest the name issue legislatively? How many elected officials who came up with the "City Tag" rule are even still in office now? And how would we stand legislatively were it challenged today?

    Enough of this "City Tag" nonsense. Forget the fact that we are deserving of the name, but its a political issue and will require political muscle to resolve it.

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    _ OK, and you're right. But, where are we in putting to rest the name issue legislatively? How many elected officials who came up with the "City Tag" rule are even still in office now? And how would we stand legislatively were it challenged today?

    Enough of this "City Tag" nonsense. Forget the fact that we are deserving of the name, but its a political issue and will require political muscle to resolve it. _
    It doesn't need to be done legislatively. It needs to be done athletically.

    I don't despise ULM, but until we're in different conferences, we'll have a hard time selling "UL".

    Once we're in separate conferences, our conference members will change our name for us if for no other reason than economic motivation. "The University of Louisiana" will sell more tickets than "Louisiana-Lafayette".

    Once that happens, the media will start using it, and it will be all over. Back in 1999, I argued that the AP would change our name, no one else. One of our people even had a powerful connection in the sports department at AP, and they were ready to start calling us "Louisiana" whenever we told them to.

    Alas, the administration did not move on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post
    _ It doesn't need to be done legislatively. It needs to be done athletically.

    I don't despise ULM, but until we're in different conferences, we'll have a hard time selling "UL".

    Once we're in separate conferences, our conference members will change our name for us if for no other reason than economic motivation. "The University of Louisiana" will sell more tickets than "Louisiana-Lafayette".

    Once that happens, the media will start using it, and it will be all over. Back in 1999, I argued that the AP would change our name, no one else. One of our people even had a powerful connection in the sports department at AP, and they were ready to start calling us "Louisiana" whenever we told them to.

    Alas, the administration did not move on it. _
    I agree with you. For comparison purposes, look at what ULM uses vs. UL in trying to gain name recognition. Fortunately, they want ULM which leaves the door open to our capturing the UL and Louisiana names, athletically. But, when will be do it in such a consistent way as to get the media to recognize us that way? I also agree that conference affiliation with ULM negatively impacts our cause.

    Below also is what ULM puts in their Game Notes, very prominently on the first page:

    We Are ULM
    In all reference, please refer to us as ULM.
    We are ULM, not Monroe, La.-Monroe, LAM, La.-
    Mon, UL Monroe, UL-M or any other variation
    We are the University of Louisiana at Monroe,
    not ULM


    UL, on the other hand, makes no mention of what to call us. We just use LOUISIANA throughout the Game Notes, including the following (I thought our enrollment was over 16,000 and we were founded in 1898):

    Louisiana
    Athletic Media Relations

    University Information
    Name _ _____________ University of Louisiana
    Location__________________ Lafayette, La.
    Founded _____________________1900
    Enrollment ___________ 15,035 (Spring, 2009)
    Nickname_ _______________Ragin' Cajuns
    Colors ____________ Vermilion (PMS 193) & White
    Stadium (Capacity) _________ Cajun Field (31,000)
    Surface _________Pro Grass Synthetic Turf System
    President______________ Dr. E. Joseph Savoie
    _____________________ (Louisiana '76)
    Athletics Director_ ____________ David Walker
    _____________________ (Louisiana '76)
    Website _ ___________ www.ragincajuns.com

    I really like the way we Louisiana and UL in the Game Notes, but consistency is not our forte'. Hence, continued confusion on what to call us.

    This is what we put in our Football Media Guide and we don't put it under MEDIA INFORMATION, we put it under PLAYER PROFILES next to Antwyne Zanders. Wonder why everyone is confused about what to call us? Who cares about the history of our name and mascot? Just put a simple statement about what to call us NOW in a very conspicuous place. If we want to be called LOUISIANA as we state, why do we _____foot around the issue like this?



    WHO WE ARE
    The story behind our name and nickname.

    Our Name
    We started as Southwestern Louisiana Industrial Institute on
    Sept. 18, 1901. Dr. Edwin L. Stephens was named the first president,
    as SLII opened its doors with 100 students and eight faculty
    members. In 1921, the school became known as Southwestern
    Louisiana Institute when it was designated as one of the state's
    institutions of higher learning. Upon achieving university status
    in 1960, our name was changed to the University of Southwestern
    Louisiana. That name lasted until 1999 and was replaced by
    the University of Louisiana ... at Lafayette. Athletically, using the
    reference "at Lafayette" is not necessary in the same examples as
    North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Texas at Austin and Tennessee at
    Knoxville.

    Our Nickname and Mascot
    In 1921, then-SLI adopted the nickname and mascot Bulldogs.
    The first use was a drawing voted on by the student body. Famous
    architect Hays Town did the first rendition of the bulldog while he
    was a student.
    The first use of a live mascot dates back to 1937. During
    the 1937-38 school year, the first dog was actually a pit bull. The
    following season, the school used an English bulldog as its mascot
    and continued to use English bulldogs every season with one
    exception. In 1943-44, the school mascot was a stray dog named
    Willoughby.
    For the next several years, all bulldogs were named "Gee" after
    the popular coach George Mitchell. Mitchell served as boxing
    coach from 1940-1942 and head football coach from 1947-49,
    compiling an 18-8-1 record on the gridiron.
    Beginning in 1963, just a few seasons after the name change
    to USL, university football teams were dubbed the "Raging Cajuns"
    by then-Sports Information Director Bob Henderson and head
    football coach Russ Faulkinberry. In addition, the team switched
    from gold helmets to white helmets with an Acadian flag. At the
    time, more than 90 percent of Faulkinberry's team was composed
    of Louisiana high school players, many with French-speaking
    Acadian backgrounds.
    The "Raging Cajuns" nickname stuck, and in 1967 the second
    'g' was dropped to form the word Ragin'. In the early 1970's other
    sports teams began to adopt the Ragin' Cajuns nickname. The
    University made a full switch to Ragin' Cajuns during the 1974-75
    school year as part of "Operation Turnaround".
    Even though the nickname had changed, USL continued to use
    a bulldog as its mascot until the early 1970's. In 1982, USL debuted
    its new mascot, named Mr. Cajun, a shotgun-carrying hunter riding
    a giant crawfish. The design was chosen from a student-submitted
    contest. Mr. Cajun was quickly replaced by Cajun Man, but in 1984,
    the Fabulous Cajun Chicken was introduced and became a wildly
    popular unofficial mascot who entertained fans for more than a
    decade. The bulldog mascot, however, was reintroduced as a live
    English bulldog named Ragin' Cajun from 1990-1996. Red, another
    English bulldog, debuted in the fall of 1996, but served as the
    mascot for only one season. Cayenne, the Cajun Pepper, became
    the new mascot in 2001 and still serves as the mascot today.
    The Fabulous Cajun Chicken made a brief return in 2007-08,
    appearing at a baseball game on Apr. 17, 2007, Football Fan Day on
    Aug. 12, 2007 and a men's basketball game on Jan. 19, 2008.

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    My compliments on seamlessly moving another thread to the name issue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MetryCajun View Post
    _ My compliments on seamlessly moving another thread to the name issue. _
    Well, at least he appears to have read the article. I can see how many people have read each entry on ultoday.com.

    UL was the first school in the country to desegregate after Brown v Board, more than a decade before Federal Troops were sent into Oxford & Tuscaloosa.

    But only about 17 people here have been actually reading those articles. The quarterback club notes attract almost 10 times that number.

    Doesn't speak very well for the value of a UL education, does it?

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    _ Well, at least he appears to have read the article. I can see how many people have read each entry on ultoday.com.

    UL was the first school in the country to desegregate after Brown v Board, more than a decade before Federal Troops were sent into Oxford & Tuscaloosa.

    But only about 17 people here have been actually reading those articles. The quarterback club notes attract almost 10 times that number.

    Doesn't speak very well for the value of a UL education, does it? _
    If I didn't know better, I would think there is an insult hidden somewhere in your post. I blaming my lack of interest(and education) on the 2 years I spent at LSU.

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    But only about 17 people here have been actually reading those articles. The quarterback club notes attract almost 10 times that number.

    Doesn't speak very well for the value of a UL education, does it? _
    Doesn't speak very well our hunt and find skills.

    I don't see how this thread could generate 400 views and only result in 17 clicks to UL Today. We must be clicking but not finding what we went there for.

    Perhaps you could start providing a link directly to the article in your post?

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    _ Doesn't speak very well our hunt and find skills.

    I don't see how this thread could generate 400 views and only result in 17 clicks to UL Today. We must be clicking but not finding what we went there for.

    Perhaps you could start providing a link directly to the article in your post? _
    I have had trouble finding articles once I get to UL today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOUCajun View Post
    _ I have had trouble finding articles once I get to UL today. _
    Typical UL_L grad!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    _ Doesn't speak very well our hunt and find skills.

    I don't see how this thread could generate 400 views and only result in 17 clicks to UL Today. We must be clicking but not finding what we went there for.

    Perhaps you could start providing a link directly to the article in your post? _
    I can start to do that. But when I post that an article is up, it's almost always top right or top left.

    But there are never more than a dozen articles up at any one time (and even then, I'd like to think that a loyal college graduate would be interested in all of them). I can't believe that having to glance around a dozen articles, would deter 383 people who were really interested in the topic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post
    (and even then, I'd like to think that a loyal college graduate would be interested in all of them). I can't believe that having to glance around a dozen articles, would deter 383 people who were really interested in the topic... _
    I think that is the deal, 12 (many more) interesting articles and not necessarily having all day we end up getting diverted.

    Back to topic I'm trying to line up an interview with Martin J. Wiltz. My understanding at the moment is that he was a first year UL desegration student who graduated.

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    _ It doesn't need to be done legislatively. It needs to be done athletically.

    I don't despise ULM, but until we're in different conferences, we'll have a hard time selling "UL".

    Once we're in separate conferences, our conference members will change our name for us if for no other reason than economic motivation. "The University of Louisiana" will sell more tickets than "Louisiana-Lafayette".

    Once that happens, the media will start using it, and it will be all over. Back in 1999, I argued that the AP would change our name, no one else. One of our people even had a powerful connection in the sports department at AP, and they were ready to start calling us "Louisiana" whenever we told them to.

    Fun I told this to Coach Blanco

    his greatest legacy would be his getting us in a better conference--yes away from ULM ---when the chips fall again

    he is the guy to getter done--you agree????

    Alas, the administration did not move on it. _


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post
    _ UL was the first school in the US to desegregate after Brown v Board, and the first historically white southern school to desegregate in any meaningful way.

    The University Press of Florida has given ultoday.com permission to reprint the history of UL's Desegregation. We will serialize the story over the next few weeks.

    I hate to be the naysayer again here, but Brown v. Board did not desegregate higher ed, it applied to primary and secondary school. Your article about UL responding to Brown is off base.

    A case called Sweat v Painter (1949) and its successor cases intergrated higher ed. Sweat acutally took place before Brown and involved higher ed in Texas and Ok.

    These cases had a direct effect on Louisiana higher ed.

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    Not only did we not get into a better conference, we admitted ULM into our conference, which we could have blocked, except Dr. A promised them admittance. Now, we are tied to the hip with them. They have clearly selected ULM as their logo. It is time for UL to start first with the SBC in recognizing us as UL and Louisiana, then the national media. If our conference won't do it, go independent. There are only 3 major college independents, ND, Army and Navy, so we would be in good company. 7 football wins will get you a bowl game, so why do you need the conference? Scheduling? Heck that shouldn't be a problem and we could get a far better schedule than the SBC. Automatic bids? Softball did just fine without an automatic bid. Baseball has a solid enough reputation to get at large bids. How many times have we been to the NCAA in basketball in the last 20 years? 4 times and we were one and out each time and only 5 times in the last 30 years. Travel? Shouldn't be any worse than it is now. Conference revenue? The SBC doesn't pay anything. We just might be able to make a better name for ourselves as an Independent and have a better chance at joining another better conference later with better fan support and separation from the other in-state schools.

    Football is our primary revenue generator that is anemic at best. Our best schedule ever was in 1996 when we played Florida, Texas A&M, Southern Miss, LA Tech, Houston, Arkansas State, UAB, Memphis, VA Tech, Northern Illinois and Texas Tech and went 5-6. We could recruit better against this kind of schedule, we could increase fan interest and support, generate greater attendance today, garner more national recognition, move our program up from the worse conference in the country and distinguish ourselves as a major player as LOUISIANA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunnexile View Post
    _ I hate to be the naysayer again here, but Brown v. Board did not desegregate higher ed, it applied to primary and secondary school. Your article about UL responding to Brown is off base.

    A case called Sweat v Painter (1949) and its successor cases intergrated higher ed. Sweat acutally took place before Brown and involved higher ed in Texas and Ok.

    These cases had a direct effect on Louisiana higher ed. _
    It is great that this board allows these posts of facts---thanks for the clarification---In my short Law School stay I did not realize that Brown v Board did not cover higher education--But the main thing is that we were about a decade ahead of the Universities of Miss and Ala and maybe LSU in our admissions---BTW when did LSU allow blacks??? I know that it was a while after UL!!!

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