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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingolfer View Post
    Hi, I'm a new poster and live in lafayette. I have worked at several universities across the state, and just wanted to give you my non flaming opinion on using Louisiana or UL.
    For me I have never opposed ULL using UL for athletics. The problem I have is academics which for an university is inherently linked. This state is currently home to 3 tier 1 universities. Those universities are Tulane, LSU, and La Tech. None of those schools have a regional identifier and two of them using Louisiana in their name. I think that it shows bad on our state for a school without a tier 1 ranking to use the full state name. It is about academics and state prestige, not on some grand plan to hate on ULL.
    In fact if ULL was to break the tier 1 rankings I would have no issue calling it UL and if the became higher ranked than Tulane I would call the BLU (the best university in Louisiana) but until such time I can not get behind it.
    If I was an Acadiana legislator I would introduce a bill at the legislator that stated that all tier 1 universities that maintain that ranking for x years has the ability to change their official name to include the Louisiana with no regional affiliation. I bet you could get full support for that, and then it would be up to the students and administration to achieve that goal.
    TL;DR: ULL has to improve academically to become UL. And once they do, which it appears they are on the right path, then they can become UL. Until then I don't want an academically inferior university using Louisiana without a regional identifier.
    La Tech and LSU are nicknames, and not the official name of either university. It is absurd to propose that the only way a university can adopt a nickname is if it meets some arbitrary ranking from a magazine. Your argument is ridiculous on it's face.

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    I just looked it up and based off of colleges.com ULL scores a b in diversity and la tech is a b-. Southern is a c+, LSU is a b-, Tulane is a B, ULM is a b. So it would appear that ULL is tied as the most diverse school in LA, but the other schools are not that far behind. Which is a good thing for Louisiana as a whole.


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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    Do you know the definition of diversity?

    Well, I could be wrong, but I believe diversity is an old, old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJack55 View Post
    Well, I could be wrong, but I believe diversity is an old, old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era.
    Exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingolfer View Post
    I just looked it up and based off of colleges.com ULL scores a b in diversity and la tech is a b-. Southern is a c+, LSU is a b-, Tulane is a B, ULM is a b. So it would appear that ULL is tied as the most diverse school in LA, but the other schools are not that far behind. Which is a good thing for Louisiana as a whole.
    So back on point; as the most representative State school in the State, UL has a claim to Louisiana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingolfer View Post
    No I stated a clear argument on the reason many outside of lafayette opose you calling yourseld UL and even a way to change that argument. Backed up with facts and yall turn it into a bash la tech thread (here is a troll why didnt you bash them on the football field). I am not saying others do not oppose the name change just to hate, but im not one of them.
    I will counter argue your point.

    1st argument

    UL-Lafayette could never be the University of the State it will always have the city-tag. We are trying to just become known as Louisiana athletically.

    2nd argument

    UL has an endowment of 115 million dollars, LaTech 92 million

    3rd argument

    UL-Lafayette: 17,000 students

    Tech: 9,000 students

    The only thing that LaTech has on UL-Lafayette is that tier I status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragin9221 View Post
    I will counter argue your point.

    1st argument

    UL-Lafayette could never be the University of the State it will always have the city-tag. We are trying to just become known as Louisiana athletically.

    2nd argument

    UL has an endowment of 115 million dollars, LaTech 92 million

    3rd argument

    UL-Lafayette: 17,000 students

    Tech: 9,000 students

    The only thing that LaTech has on UL-Lafayette is that tier I status.
    My point is that they can become better. Yale only has 11,880. Are you saying you are on par with Yale, I mean sure Yale has you beat in endowment, but you have them beat in enrollment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragin9221 View Post
    I will counter argue your point.

    1st argument

    UL-Lafayette could never be the University of the State it will always have the city-tag. We are trying to just become known as Louisiana athletically.

    2nd argument

    UL has an endowment of 115 million dollars, LaTech 92 million

    3rd argument

    UL-Lafayette: 17,000 students

    Tech: 9,000 students

    The only thing that LaTech has on UL-Lafayette is that tier I status.
    ---the UL endowment according to a report last year was well over $150 million!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingolfer View Post
    My point is that they can become better. Yale only has 11,880. Are you saying you are on par with Yale, I mean sure Yale has you beat in endowment, but you have them beat in enrollment.
    Yale isn't in Louisiana, and thus are not a University of the State.

    If they were you would have a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingolfer View Post
    My point is that they can become better. Yale only has 11,880. Are you saying you are on par with Yale, I mean sure Yale has you beat in endowment, but you have them beat in enrollment.
    Who can become better? UL

    No one is comparing Yale to UL.

    I thought we were discussing this idea about us just being known as University of Louisiana based on Tier I status?

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    Tulane then. The point is that quality of education is more important.


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    It was but then it got shifted to a ULL is better than tech thread. And I guess anything to cover the original point is what has happened.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragin9221 View Post
    The only thing that LaTech has on UL is that tier I status.
    Yeah, but how long will that last? First of all, Tier "one" is now over 75% of major universities, it has little meaning any more.

    Second, as we have success in various academic and athletic areas (yes, people who have looked at the numbers carefully have found a strong correlation with athletic success, at least for public universities), the perceived advantage of LTU will disappear.

    Third, LTU may not really qualify for Tier 1. They "exaggerate" a lot, and we're catching them at it more and more. My favorite was a meeting they had with other Louisiana universities, and someone pointed out that they brag about their low student-teacher ratio, and also brag about high per-faculty research funding. Problem is, for the first you need more faculty, for the second you need fewer-- and the numbers didn't stack up when you compared them.

    The LTU representative was crawfishing and sputtering like crazy when our people pointed it out.

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    You understand that your argument is flawed because UL could never officially become University of Louisiana. It will always be University of Louisiana ... at Lafayette.

    Second what does academics have to do with athletics? We are just trying to become known as Louisiana athletically, not academically.


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    Then it should be an easy thing to achieve for ULL


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    Saying

    I'm not a troll
    I'm not a troll
    I'm not a troll

    Makes you a troll...good day

    Y'all stop feeding him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingolfer View Post
    Tulane then. The point is that quality of education is more important.
    Tulane isn't higher ranked because of the quality of education. There are no reliable rankings for instructional quality.

    Tulane is higher ranked because of popularity: the people who vote on the rankings think it's better, mostly because it's very exclusive in its admissions, which is because the students perceive it as a better school, which is because the people who vote think it's better...

    You get the idea.

    My main point is that so much of 'rankings' of higher ed have nothing to do with the core industries, not undergrad instruction, not graduate production, not research. Consider that in research funding, UL now surpasses Tulane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingolfer View Post
    Then it should be an easy thing to achieve for ULL
    Not so easy ... ULL doesn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingolfer View Post
    Then it should be an easy thing to achieve for ULL
    Who is ULL?

    And what does being a ragin' golfer have to do with being a Ragin' Cajun? Seems to me the second one is an achievement.

    The first one is pretty much a failure...

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    As a person who graduated in education, I do believe that the quality of an education is more important.


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